WEBVTT NOTE duration:"02:56:54" NOTE recognizability:0.933 NOTE language:en-us NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 2329f8e9-1e79-4839-9c1b-d6abb95f1b3d 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:04.895 Good morning, everyone. NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 d35a700b-6836-4eaa-9ed8-1ba7f4a93aed 00:00:04.895 --> 00:00:07.315 I'm Judge Eugene Fahey. NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 b977e246-a054-4f84-9ea3-b6e7663402c3 00:00:07.320 --> 00:00:09.024 I retired from the New York NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 d7623db3-8f7e-4ae3-bbe4-8b40a83102a3 00:00:09.024 --> 00:00:10.160 State Court of Appeals. NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 e298c1be-919d-4d6c-9320-7b5871e8a7b4 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:13.360 I'm Chairperson of the Commission NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 abb7b1a6-ea8e-42ce-8427-a8264e4196c6 00:00:13.360 --> 00:00:16.560 on Compensation for the Judiciary, NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 ea106c62-e951-480e-aef5-3195d3e1b8ec 00:00:16.560 --> 00:00:21.080 the legislature and Executive employees. NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 6b8ad362-d5c1-4fcc-95e0-5d5311ca401a 00:00:21.080 --> 00:00:23.000 The Commission, as everyone knows, NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 9e816ddb-133f-4f34-9186-9a3b3cfec44c 00:00:23.000 --> 00:00:26.636 meets every four years per statute. NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 cac33415-8a3b-467f-895a-625ed457a0d9 00:00:26.640 --> 00:00:30.570 The commission's decisions effectively become NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 be431346-92ed-4242-9613-09100ecb839e 00:00:30.570 --> 00:00:33.540 law unless overruled by the legislature. NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 8b49f443-bffd-4121-ae78-0090d4773239 00:00:33.540 --> 00:00:36.952 Today is our first, NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 f7e56ef0-698d-43d5-8d20-af4f0e3c143d 00:00:36.952 --> 00:00:39.307 and I believe our most significant hearing. NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 3ba4bd26-7dd9-422b-8aa6-9c80ba991363 00:00:39.307 --> 00:00:42.563 We're going to hear from a series of NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 7e6c8950-9742-47cc-9d8c-a703c196a621 00:00:42.563 --> 00:00:44.898 witnesses over a three hour period. NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 57d5ed3c-ab23-44e0-8895-bb630922dc35 00:00:44.900 --> 00:00:46.712 I'm going to ask that we NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 819d4192-e91b-416a-bc51-e5bb81a3c345 00:00:46.712 --> 00:00:48.380 follow a couple ground rules. NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 3e0ac4c1-72c5-422a-898a-101f2f11fe8d 00:00:48.380 --> 00:00:50.893 The first ground rule is I'd like NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 3c19cef6-e7e7-421b-9e32-d40e8c6c60d0 00:00:50.893 --> 00:00:53.305 to try and limit any presenter NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 4c77f3a4-e960-4b1e-a2a5-8097d2e27935 00:00:53.305 --> 00:00:55.807 to 10 minutes at the most, NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 9028a2f5-22fe-4350-9624-d75e68f3cc08 00:00:55.810 --> 00:00:57.490 but anything that you have in writing, NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 c6eb12bc-e54f-4d7b-9149-7279b67359a1 00:00:57.490 --> 00:00:59.079 of course, and in and we're going NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 ddef2102-74cb-4cb9-b3d7-4918c6ce2145 00:00:59.079 --> 00:01:00.649 to take it and consider it. NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 b2d00a98-5a03-42cd-ba50-24d266fe7e3b 00:01:00.650 --> 00:01:02.606 So if your testimony is longer, NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 92dcc8f3-daec-4d30-8547-b6a9800b11ae 00:01:02.610 --> 00:01:04.090 we're happy to accept it. NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 8b086faf-3072-4def-adaa-290d05fcad10 00:01:04.090 --> 00:01:08.858 And the second thing is there will NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 fa2a0a32-8248-4b1a-917c-56746ad60d92 00:01:08.858 --> 00:01:12.650 be some questions from my colleagues, NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 33045e05-9aec-4d86-afd6-66e067686763 00:01:12.650 --> 00:01:15.015 which I'm not going to ask them to be NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 a64ca26b-0c7d-47d1-9e7c-011c0b8f0681 00:01:15.015 --> 00:01:17.205 modest and limited in their questions, NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 4655ac94-0465-4c01-b08e-a665057250e7 00:01:17.210 --> 00:01:18.810 but I can't count it with these people. NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 9db305ba-86f6-44a1-85d7-cdfb2a4b236d 00:01:18.810 --> 00:01:20.354 You just never know. NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 a11263cb-f938-459b-9580-54591dbe039d 00:01:20.354 --> 00:01:23.570 You know, they're freewheeling a lot, NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 bd5c6185-fc1f-4fd8-965a-76be5c0ee030 00:01:23.570 --> 00:01:26.048 but I I'm going to begin NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 118be153-86c4-4085-a037-55dec7e192b6 00:01:26.048 --> 00:01:27.700 now by introducing them. NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 d45f070d-f324-4dc2-89d5-f1bfff8caa97 00:01:27.700 --> 00:01:33.577 I'm going to start by going to my left. NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 689f4246-7469-48bf-ae8a-c82606dbe953 00:01:33.580 --> 00:01:36.256 To my left is Helene Blank. NOTE Confidence: 0.9396563 6bc82844-b9e1-4507-ba00-47b79c148d59 00:01:36.260 --> 00:01:36.780 Good morning, NOTE Confidence: 0.9230257 89be6ac1-9ec5-4546-9a7d-db9238076df9 00:01:38.820 --> 00:01:41.220 everyone. Next to Helene is NOTE Confidence: 0.9230257 0a1d2bec-147d-4158-9e41-62aa6160dcc5 00:01:41.220 --> 00:01:43.380 Victor Kovner. Good morning. NOTE Confidence: 0.9230257 fb11d4c7-140a-405d-86ef-b8d59d443d1b 00:01:43.380 --> 00:01:47.892 And next to Victor is Nadine Fontaine. NOTE Confidence: 0.9230257 3041419b-be86-4216-9d8a-5f0507c27447 00:01:47.892 --> 00:01:49.300 Good morning. NOTE Confidence: 0.9230257 add29088-62db-4664-8f33-d6343d75ffa9 00:01:49.300 --> 00:01:53.758 To my right is the honorable Jeremy finds. NOTE Confidence: 0.9230257 8cb7ed69-6b73-4a43-a86a-8c0242a652b8 00:01:53.758 --> 00:01:58.830 Jeremy Weinstein retired. Good morning. NOTE Confidence: 0.9230257 02a0a146-0e5e-4c68-a27a-508d6feb6e55 00:01:58.830 --> 00:02:04.678 Next next to Jeremy is Teresa Egan. NOTE Confidence: 0.9230257 8320bc6f-8c21-4f22-beba-16ed3ad11b06 00:02:04.678 --> 00:02:06.310 Good morning, everyone. NOTE Confidence: 0.9230257 64a25ec1-f2ce-434f-9f68-7b02459cbb91 00:02:06.310 --> 00:02:10.342 And finally on my far right is Robert Magna. NOTE Confidence: 0.9230257 e3482a4e-2a93-44ae-9abe-afff40a72e16 00:02:10.350 --> 00:02:12.190 Good morning. NOTE Confidence: 0.9230257 5fc86d17-31ae-4bf9-bc09-9871f95cc83d 00:02:12.190 --> 00:02:14.640 Plus we're appointed either by NOTE Confidence: 0.9230257 92113c8c-7bfe-4dc3-8c1b-eaa8e21c4e51 00:02:14.640 --> 00:02:18.120 the Chief Judge, the Governor, NOTE Confidence: 0.9230257 cb2cd8e5-fa7c-46a8-997c-3b8f7957e2e0 00:02:18.120 --> 00:02:20.820 Speaker of the Assembly or the NOTE Confidence: 0.9230257 30729a1d-0ec8-48f2-a801-e03bc00e29ca 00:02:20.820 --> 00:02:23.800 Majority Leader and we hold our NOTE Confidence: 0.9230257 ebdebfeb-05bf-4828-b4a0-095dc50946c4 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:25.856 position pursuant to that appointment. NOTE Confidence: 0.9230257 59cdb6ca-2989-4ddb-9d7e-f96d3ef2eb69 00:02:25.856 --> 00:02:28.160 Going to begin today with our NOTE Confidence: 0.9230257 a1ed5580-2ea7-4984-8774-247a9cbaa263 00:02:28.232 --> 00:02:31.128 first witness and call forward our NOTE Confidence: 0.9230257 2c02e57a-2873-4e06-8046-e2a6eb20f723 00:02:31.128 --> 00:02:33.176 newest Chief Administrative Judge NOTE Confidence: 0.9230257 7522ca59-36a6-4094-a8d9-8e86dcb1f33d 00:02:33.176 --> 00:02:35.880 who we're pleased to hear from NOTE Confidence: 0.9222284 d5f76810-28c4-484f-96b3-a1f9bb3c9e6a 00:02:38.040 --> 00:02:40.200 Joseph Zias. Good morning, Judge. NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 83c41dab-0f44-45e9-ad77-3dafbc638d25 00:02:47.430 --> 00:02:49.650 Morning, Chairman Fahey NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 3de5cebf-e0a6-47a4-bfb6-27a946c9d57d 00:02:49.650 --> 00:02:51.870 and fellow commissioners. NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 17906798-da5c-4da3-abce-2a2b4fb2f552 00:02:51.870 --> 00:02:53.510 My name is Joseph Zius. NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 1c074bca-93bc-4926-9142-86711e9bd719 00:02:53.510 --> 00:02:56.990 I am the, as the Chair has indicated, NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 ae14b988-fb73-4b20-97fe-31aa0eb606b2 00:02:56.990 --> 00:02:59.420 the brand new Chief Administrative NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 85c5478a-95c8-4aa1-87fb-b0d518760dee 00:02:59.420 --> 00:03:01.668 Judge of the state of New York. NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 0985880f-d68f-4c35-90f1-21b54dc742e7 00:03:01.670 --> 00:03:04.288 And I appear before you today on NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 ee4e6184-926d-47d4-9f37-2bdceba61919 00:03:04.288 --> 00:03:07.542 behalf of our brand new Chief Judge, NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 69bd466a-5b86-4030-9357-5b172685028c 00:03:07.542 --> 00:03:09.510 Judge Rowan Wilson, NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 51f5f88c-36f4-47dc-9299-12bfe8f58648 00:03:09.510 --> 00:03:11.994 the Unified Court System NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 a4119966-bca9-4350-856f-a14e8cd4e7d5 00:03:11.994 --> 00:03:14.478 and the entire judiciary. NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 2f5c007f-d66f-4f3f-adde-4ee750275b1c 00:03:14.480 --> 00:03:16.976 Thank you for giving me this NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 c8901ea3-ed05-4f12-9d95-382cdabd14cc 00:03:16.976 --> 00:03:19.134 opportunity to discuss the vital NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 061653af-f1ee-4f8e-aa7e-1b3391cf9756 00:03:19.134 --> 00:03:21.630 need for an increase in compensation NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 971ce3ff-c2f4-4375-9a50-0f1c7feed80f 00:03:21.630 --> 00:03:25.060 for the over 1300 state paid judges NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 8fa78926-1223-4b48-92ae-182fc37a9d56 00:03:25.060 --> 00:03:27.785 and justices presiding in New NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 ae841685-9e00-4f60-9a2b-83157dab1c03 00:03:27.785 --> 00:03:30.917 York's trial and appellate courts. NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 fee808ae-edcf-4b32-af22-b836d1004275 00:03:30.920 --> 00:03:31.624 Next week, NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 e4188986-972a-4d51-b5b0-9da54cd21501 00:03:31.624 --> 00:03:34.088 we plan to submit a detailed report NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 1598b713-9d21-4b79-bfb1-9c93cb570f6b 00:03:34.088 --> 00:03:36.453 to the Commission that expands on NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 e482e373-402e-4d40-91ba-41113ee517eb 00:03:36.453 --> 00:03:39.400 the points that I'll be making today. NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 a2097575-0abb-48e6-b853-87ce88647d01 00:03:39.400 --> 00:03:41.905 What I'm urging the Commission NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 dee679e0-d4d5-42bb-b14e-2156a7d8f49d 00:03:41.905 --> 00:03:44.410 to recommend is not novel. NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 47b9ca9b-f98d-42d5-90ee-ec06a362776e 00:03:44.410 --> 00:03:45.358 In 2011, NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 a9b8f795-a488-430d-9355-8f2aadcacca5 00:03:45.358 --> 00:03:47.728 the first of these commissions NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 4aa04c86-851a-4ae3-8e5a-ec9ed3cdd063 00:03:47.728 --> 00:03:50.687 to be convened recognized that NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 0b2377ff-659b-49a8-8fa4-ffb751858e7a 00:03:50.687 --> 00:03:53.343 the appropriate benchmark for NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 5ef9c72e-2ecf-4a5d-a5fd-91a4b7995035 00:03:53.343 --> 00:03:55.808 evaluating the compensation of New NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 911f195f-3832-40d9-ae37-2f3a74271051 00:03:55.808 --> 00:03:59.406 York's judges is the pay of our NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 7ba3f782-c321-48f3-b9e1-5a62ab66b082 00:03:59.406 --> 00:04:01.966 counterparts in the federal judiciary. NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 83263d9a-26d6-4f37-8672-6f535b0cb478 00:04:01.970 --> 00:04:04.770 But unfortunately, in recent years, NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 03ac79c6-8b4c-4921-937f-8f54f3dd4848 00:04:04.770 --> 00:04:07.976 our salaries have not kept kept pace NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 398d2979-dde3-4624-b9b1-e29a8cd65915 00:04:07.976 --> 00:04:11.682 with those of the federal judges or NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 1f9c09f7-974d-4077-9e12-46161e540f99 00:04:11.682 --> 00:04:15.234 for that matter with rising inflation. NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 751c8263-1349-4796-9cbf-a1885cade62e 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:18.246 So we are asking to be restored to a NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 57006635-df2f-4b00-bc21-d11be4f0c252 00:04:18.246 --> 00:04:20.795 position of parity with the federal NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 ba252a04-218c-4c37-9dc5-8c42f97a611c 00:04:20.795 --> 00:04:24.060 judiciary next year and that cost of NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 557f2c11-6752-4518-99cf-5c3e11028a90 00:04:24.060 --> 00:04:26.040 living adjustments be implemented NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 790ca31c-284e-47f5-8dff-07e342d4bfb3 00:04:26.040 --> 00:04:27.680 over the following three years. NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 9f90a3cd-8859-4e12-9f99-6e3bec442e59 00:04:27.680 --> 00:04:31.238 So that that parity is maintained NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 4ca04e42-59ab-47e0-8ee9-755b531a70ff 00:04:31.240 --> 00:04:34.084 and the value this is really NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 23c90947-b0a0-4289-afe0-b0cf52bbd154 00:04:34.084 --> 00:04:37.495 important that the value of judicial NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 726c23b6-0515-48ad-9870-ed86c9424aba 00:04:37.495 --> 00:04:40.430 paychecks is not further diminished. NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 dbe419fc-abaa-44b7-bbb2-f530abec644b 00:04:40.430 --> 00:04:43.470 The statute established by this NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 f47cb02b-0370-4831-a529-57733d5395bf 00:04:43.470 --> 00:04:45.030 established this Commission, NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 e7f805c9-f9a7-4969-ac64-0e7e1851e7a4 00:04:45.030 --> 00:04:48.630 which I know you originally helped to write, NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 0f1aa1bc-27ef-4e83-b03b-f121fcc70214 00:04:48.630 --> 00:04:50.558 Commissioner Cobner lays out NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 c3048584-65b7-46d1-b66b-9f5e52909d68 00:04:50.558 --> 00:04:52.968 several factors that should be NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 9db454b3-8591-4817-8d3e-27b04fd73bdb 00:04:52.968 --> 00:04:54.869 considered in evaluating the NOTE Confidence: 0.9345579 5a44560a-dffd-43f7-a4f1-467ccba1dad5 00:04:54.869 --> 00:04:57.109 prevent the prevailing adequacy of NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 7c6079ee-1f38-475d-8f30-d544b1d3d8de 00:05:02.230 --> 00:05:05.386 One of them, naturally, is inflation. NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 f2c66d2e-355b-4afc-a577-12583f7ac2c8 00:05:05.390 --> 00:05:09.548 The extraordinary inflation is an issue NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 9a92b44c-66ac-48cf-b990-5ddb5dbc2d0e 00:05:09.548 --> 00:05:12.066 that I submit the Commission must NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 9774fe27-27af-4712-9a90-9653ea98bedc 00:05:12.066 --> 00:05:15.370 give very heavy weight to this year. NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 cee20b7e-1c2e-49ee-bd73-4566965842fc 00:05:15.370 --> 00:05:18.058 Judges pay in New York has NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 4f31afc0-0bdd-46cf-9172-3a1d1070ef00 00:05:18.058 --> 00:05:21.490 not changed since 2019, when, NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 310188ca-3341-4290-ba58-a29ce52df74e 00:05:21.490 --> 00:05:24.594 on the recommendation of the 2015 Commission, NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 b0145b3f-10eb-4aab-a8e9-e968b265b4a8 00:05:24.594 --> 00:05:27.354 Supreme Court judges salaries match NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 c8889bb0-844f-43ca-84c4-6e108d345f97 00:05:27.354 --> 00:05:30.848 those of Federal District Court judges, NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 0aa8bd66-c108-4731-aed7-8a97745a18e2 00:05:30.850 --> 00:05:33.930 and the salaries of our other judges NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 d998510e-8ae8-4c48-9881-230617abf9a9 00:05:33.930 --> 00:05:36.700 were calculated based on that benchmark. NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 5e478f66-06b7-4d8c-be42-a6edc8dd9c51 00:05:36.700 --> 00:05:40.036 I'm sure you are all well aware that NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 0f520d84-138f-4782-9ad1-1c3b37083d38 00:05:40.036 --> 00:05:44.460 during the ensuing 4 1/2 years we have NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 3ea835c6-57d2-4414-8e2b-fb98cb445f72 00:05:44.460 --> 00:05:47.340 experienced historic rates of inflation. NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 5118f3ad-73ee-41fc-a3c7-0608ac68a03d 00:05:47.340 --> 00:05:51.086 The cost of living has grown significantly by NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 de07cf80-fd39-4b41-ae0c-7838a2e71b85 00:05:51.086 --> 00:05:54.814 20% as measured by the Consumer Price Index. NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 f60d853d-a392-4b13-840b-0dcb92b0e98c 00:05:54.820 --> 00:05:56.500 And New York, of course, NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 22259f42-57ca-4d25-8d43-0528fe0dce98 00:05:56.500 --> 00:05:58.550 was already an expensive place NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 a7555718-1481-4129-a3c8-7913dae830d3 00:05:58.550 --> 00:06:01.100 to live in to begin with. NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 f2adebdd-40b4-449d-942f-2b4f9f922a97 00:06:01.100 --> 00:06:04.100 No one goes into public service NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 85002b47-9951-45c8-9e8a-25f867e9fde1 00:06:04.100 --> 00:06:05.600 for the paycheck. NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 1b0a04cc-504c-486b-9855-af37adfe9ffe 00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:06.142 Still, NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 0ffd52d6-d6b8-481d-8fc7-2dbf44fb9f91 00:06:06.142 --> 00:06:09.394 judges and their families obviously are NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 f1a3ce13-ec18-49a0-bce0-9bc8ef3b0fd9 00:06:09.394 --> 00:06:13.438 not immune from the rising cost of living. NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 1172d593-982b-4047-a997-0a74c02c446e 00:06:13.440 --> 00:06:15.412 Having seen their salaries NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 74c5395f-f880-4817-8a4a-478dea750d87 00:06:15.412 --> 00:06:18.359 stagnate for 4 1/2 years, NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 f9443196-6946-4d8e-bb2e-9a78c73a599b 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:21.764 judges have experienced a 20% loss in NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 7fa196e7-7b3c-4f31-9360-1ecce2109f7e 00:06:21.764 --> 00:06:25.838 the value of each dollar they earn. NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 2639475a-4c54-4248-ac42-af23fcbc1b6c 00:06:25.840 --> 00:06:30.411 What this means is that judges are NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 e46c1252-8129-444d-8d52-309b5edd1391 00:06:30.411 --> 00:06:33.262 effectively earning $35,000 a year NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 ffd155d3-636e-4920-b032-c5213e868d33 00:06:33.262 --> 00:06:38.390 less than they were earning in 2019. NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 12f6ada1-6450-45b1-aecf-b38e55f4812a 00:06:38.390 --> 00:06:41.264 The state has clearly taken account NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 7eb1f01e-7517-47d3-8ae2-4181986327bd 00:06:41.264 --> 00:06:44.024 of these economic realities when it NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 6879ef53-f1a3-45dc-9c39-7fb52a345bf6 00:06:44.024 --> 00:06:46.684 has come to the compensation of its NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 05da0431-e11e-48a5-a53d-8d4fbca289fe 00:06:46.684 --> 00:06:49.989 public officials, and rightly so. NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 87c92406-81e7-41f1-b560-463956372bfb 00:06:49.990 --> 00:06:51.631 In recent years, NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 1ac3a84e-036e-4c59-9d57-c7f0ba0b12fd 00:06:51.631 --> 00:06:54.366 almost all state employees have NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 201ba1f3-85a1-412c-b872-3849cbbd180d 00:06:54.366 --> 00:06:56.935 received significant pay increases NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 90732f5b-9158-41b8-9b88-40ce79dc9e41 00:06:56.935 --> 00:06:59.026 through collective bargaining. NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 23c44b80-a8a4-45ab-b096-5d7e1d9fcb96 00:06:59.030 --> 00:07:00.656 By April 2025, NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 fe3db8b3-aeaa-41c7-9651-388ef7ae0a14 00:07:00.656 --> 00:07:03.366 these increases will amount to NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 e15f6ed8-7c10-46cc-97b5-e767fdf30b2f 00:07:03.366 --> 00:07:06.230 about 14% in the aggregate. NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 402c8829-5fc7-451f-b29f-1cb977c43f20 00:07:06.230 --> 00:07:08.886 State legislators have also NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 c86fdd32-fa3f-4ffe-9a27-fc32d9dba60c 00:07:08.886 --> 00:07:11.149 received large pay increases. NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 5fef7460-9f03-47af-9277-f778ef2faa39 00:07:11.149 --> 00:07:14.347 Their salaries have grown by almost NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 67f6fae8-c065-40b8-80a2-6a0721ecd5c0 00:07:14.350 --> 00:07:17.548 80% over the past five years, NOTE Confidence: 0.9420293 c2328154-dfb5-4511-9ed2-41cbd67cd321 00:07:17.550 --> 00:07:18.750 including a NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 919ad832-1654-4e35-8ae6-88392efe626a 00:07:20.830 --> 00:07:22.560 $32,000 raise that took effect NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 d5149bba-0f9e-480c-8769-e37238bc7d93 00:07:22.560 --> 00:07:24.670 at the beginning of this year, NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 bc2ecc97-d7d1-4745-8d51-c6a6b6541a00 00:07:24.670 --> 00:07:27.210 making them the highest paid NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 442ed15f-8ff2-4b5d-888c-76e8775728e1 00:07:27.210 --> 00:07:29.750 state legislators in the country. NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 5ec4cc6e-ad2d-4984-a391-53756343eb69 00:07:29.750 --> 00:07:32.750 At the same time, our Governor's NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 4406905a-ef20-4f68-b7ed-07c952204d01 00:07:32.750 --> 00:07:35.554 salary has been increased by 25%, NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 7840f942-a645-4d0c-83e0-7fd32c73d328 00:07:35.554 --> 00:07:39.726 meaning that New York also now has the NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 240dcabf-bfa4-405d-a30b-ce856f1d8586 00:07:39.726 --> 00:07:43.490 highest paid governor in the United States. NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 f9f515c3-debd-4ae2-859a-b38dc0a042d9 00:07:43.490 --> 00:07:48.290 All of these raises were, in my view, NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 6b9272f7-d960-478f-a288-75132c1224b8 00:07:48.290 --> 00:07:52.490 well deserved and well warranted. NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 4dd55dc5-6229-4744-b6a5-ee63e170febe 00:07:52.490 --> 00:07:55.138 In stark contrast, however, NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 dc9b5bfc-411b-44d7-ac5b-ab0420cc67dc 00:07:55.138 --> 00:07:57.786 judges salaries have remained NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 a2b5f777-e1e7-4915-a8e5-b302b90a1d11 00:07:57.786 --> 00:08:00.230 stagnant even as the cost of NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 f2a06f3d-7040-496c-8eba-25f63ef53899 00:08:00.230 --> 00:08:03.590 living has increased dramatically. NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 a1efb848-2387-4d0d-9af6-1245d25ce409 00:08:03.590 --> 00:08:07.190 This unfair disparity must be NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 8c99e9a6-2699-4adf-8e59-2c29a43276bb 00:08:07.190 --> 00:08:10.070 rectified by this Commission. NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 379c6513-9c7c-4a4c-b0bc-372591f3acfc 00:08:10.070 --> 00:08:12.562 It is not difficult to predict the NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 e292105e-93c6-4ab8-b1c1-78f76a2556c6 00:08:12.562 --> 00:08:14.350 adverse consequences that will result NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 d4b36dcb-5f5a-44c8-b4c4-6293e883a229 00:08:14.350 --> 00:08:18.746 from four more years of frozen wages. NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 395517f5-6994-4827-80fc-180ad8c21727 00:08:18.750 --> 00:08:20.822 This morale will suffer. NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 54f0277c-7d8f-4caf-9056-ce4fb978c79e 00:08:20.822 --> 00:08:22.894 Experienced judges will leave NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 2bf2ae06-280b-4abe-bdb7-464aa09ee868 00:08:22.894 --> 00:08:25.422 the bench for more lucrative NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 bb0195f9-2b3d-4c4a-8127-7c34b470488e 00:08:25.422 --> 00:08:28.236 positions in the private sector as NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 25fc7be7-c2ee-4668-a0b8-96a3f8d1c6ae 00:08:28.236 --> 00:08:30.977 well as government and academia, NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 b71f3ab3-565a-423c-9ebb-7ef50711c725 00:08:30.980 --> 00:08:34.284 and talented lawyers who we want to NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 d437d535-14f6-450d-b3d2-81bf791c3678 00:08:34.284 --> 00:08:37.146 seriously consider the judiciary as a NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 e0145c3e-0e0b-4c0e-bd23-14ea456f892f 00:08:37.146 --> 00:08:41.460 career choice will decline to do so. NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 5ddb7c63-8eec-4155-8b5b-6cbb5f4e70d1 00:08:41.460 --> 00:08:44.982 The combined effect will be that NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 136f75a0-2d88-4bda-96ba-f6a3239f6a65 00:08:44.982 --> 00:08:47.330 New York's longstanding pride NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 b2e73b18-6b72-475b-a3ca-7e5bb5d9d50d 00:08:47.425 --> 00:08:50.628 in its judiciary as the best in NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 7f3a0f00-3904-49d3-bb3e-35b6f3f4012f 00:08:50.628 --> 00:08:52.738 the nation will be jeopardized. NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 06ed32a6-6029-408d-b820-78627880ae46 00:08:52.740 --> 00:08:55.220 And the complex commercial litigation, NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 27ac5bc5-5809-4bec-bb74-2cfc4bc39705 00:08:55.220 --> 00:08:57.368 the important criminal prosecutions, NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 8ba692a1-6ee4-4c5c-ade6-d1558dc1baec 00:08:57.368 --> 00:08:58.979 the sensitive disputes NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 37fe09c8-c419-43aa-a22c-3385c680bdfb 00:08:58.979 --> 00:09:01.250 involving children and families, NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 e0c4de3d-9f55-42ea-a9b0-ff91e063464d 00:09:01.250 --> 00:09:03.650 and the questions involving our NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 6218e0e4-2278-4536-9c91-db253a0312a2 00:09:03.650 --> 00:09:06.298 cherished civil liberties that New NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 78617690-c4e7-44f1-94c6-4a32e8308563 00:09:06.298 --> 00:09:09.364 York's judges address every day may NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 c82911ae-764d-47a6-acca-30c4601a151b 00:09:09.364 --> 00:09:12.196 no longer be resolved by the best and NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 fb829e97-b6a6-4015-ae1d-193c8a3f15b7 00:09:12.196 --> 00:09:14.287 brightest of the legal profession. NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 77ca76b5-6be9-429e-97c3-fb7cb79833ed 00:09:14.290 --> 00:09:16.375 The solution to these problems NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 3fa1f0ae-a102-48df-8111-c039f7d0635a 00:09:16.375 --> 00:09:19.580 is one that has been embraced by NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 c0107a34-e4d7-4af5-a7ca-b937e7ccc4c3 00:09:19.580 --> 00:09:21.868 prior commissions and before that, NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 dd9e4af5-7beb-4559-bdd0-0a3cb0852805 00:09:21.868 --> 00:09:24.342 by the legislature in 1999. NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 cdeaef0b-3291-4b82-a656-0534af9a9a59 00:09:24.342 --> 00:09:26.950 When the legislature last adjusted NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 1fb41024-c559-48ad-8f0b-d5126d356e8f 00:09:26.950 --> 00:09:27.860 judicial compensation, NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 82ce0e18-8946-424d-88c6-c4a703778551 00:09:27.860 --> 00:09:31.486 it made the salary of a New York NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 cf0c5540-bc90-46b2-894e-d405fcf17bf9 00:09:31.486 --> 00:09:33.531 Supreme Court Justice equivalent to NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 526f1a3e-7cc3-4e6a-86e5-b7b4faa2aab3 00:09:33.531 --> 00:09:37.040 that of a federal District Court judge. NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 e1aacd50-249e-4e32-b8d1-a3a22c321b70 00:09:37.040 --> 00:09:39.344 Your predecessor commissions in NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 91c10bb6-e126-4691-917a-f50f3b69af1a 00:09:39.344 --> 00:09:43.040 from 2011 and 2015 agreed that NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 e01923c0-899f-4082-85be-f3701532e492 00:09:43.040 --> 00:09:46.160 that was the appropriate benchmark. NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 68bd1acb-8ff9-4ffa-954a-0cbc7d25f9cd 00:09:46.160 --> 00:09:49.156 And there are several reasons for this. NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 8849e8fa-97ed-4e6f-93bc-4fbf94a2e3ad 00:09:49.160 --> 00:09:50.792 For one thing, NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 6e9b1570-6a34-48da-b62e-4187dfd08425 00:09:50.792 --> 00:09:54.056 they recognize that New York State's NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 570f8a99-7c9c-443c-a3f1-2dc20ea363ba 00:09:54.056 --> 00:09:57.149 judiciary is a coequal branch of NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 4f1a7851-a473-4184-be05-5bc32973e8b6 00:09:57.149 --> 00:09:59.535 government and that it is necessary NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 f6028a76-2d2d-4de2-a387-fb1cf106b3f4 00:09:59.535 --> 00:10:01.430 to set compensation levels for NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 96d5e8e2-ff6f-4e6f-98ad-c42c82b0cda4 00:10:01.500 --> 00:10:03.744 judges that make clear that their NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 e70dd7e0-f486-4537-955b-6be6f8b42a27 00:10:03.744 --> 00:10:07.320 work is valued and respected. NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 efe62412-ffd6-42f3-8af6-3fb87f5ec6c7 00:10:07.320 --> 00:10:08.799 Those commissions, moreover, NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 5dff126a-1a14-4423-9a55-577e0d35b3c2 00:10:08.799 --> 00:10:11.757 saw the federal judiciary as setting, NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 23136e61-0932-42e2-86c2-fec9f878e41e 00:10:11.760 --> 00:10:12.289 quote, NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 dc712e87-5511-4634-b956-322a37f28cb2 00:10:12.289 --> 00:10:15.463 a benchmark of both quality and NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 c0478d50-42ca-4ddc-b9c7-ef4588edb24e 00:10:15.463 --> 00:10:17.680 compensation and the quote, NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 bac4cf23-6347-4bc0-bb76-32425183d094 00:10:17.680 --> 00:10:21.341 and they felt that New York should NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 ca9cadbe-4adf-49ad-957d-180a7f9ad05b 00:10:21.341 --> 00:10:25.309 seek to place its judiciary on par. NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 77492a2a-7ee0-4ffe-b5e3-01b93f7f2285 00:10:25.310 --> 00:10:27.306 The 2015 Commission identified NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 7f2c0251-0619-4bd1-8df4-d9b74a6efe98 00:10:27.306 --> 00:10:29.801 another advantage of maintaining pay NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 6dd084ed-07fb-4cac-b36d-a5e8d4e37acc 00:10:29.801 --> 00:10:32.189 parity with the federal judiciary. NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 1c87eeb7-7452-4083-a2b5-dd4c9e7e1c26 00:10:32.190 --> 00:10:34.820 The salaries of federal district NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 e76d5d45-343b-489b-8c1e-c7e07365b3d1 00:10:34.820 --> 00:10:37.690 judges are adjusted based on an NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 472a87c8-6392-4dcb-8108-a9bc38321b0c 00:10:37.690 --> 00:10:40.030 annual cost of living adjustment NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 ce42aeb1-bce6-4ca4-b022-efcd0a7f8f41 00:10:40.113 --> 00:10:43.068 received by other federal employees. NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 4fc84a01-8bea-46cf-af06-1b6edd16fb26 00:10:43.070 --> 00:10:45.310 Consequently, NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 17c305ea-b5b7-4de4-a64b-50f5f058e9b9 00:10:45.310 --> 00:10:48.350 consistently aligning with the pay NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 ee7ce491-8130-44d2-b222-003f70e53ef0 00:10:48.350 --> 00:10:51.390 of the federal judiciary ensures NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 a551daf2-28a7-4065-a3a0-791cc49b52a7 00:10:51.390 --> 00:10:54.494 that when the cost of living rises, NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 987f0b24-0624-42fe-94d2-f7cecadb55d2 00:10:54.494 --> 00:10:57.378 New York judges will continue to be NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 c73cd036-70bd-4e6c-bcee-9736343d6ceb 00:10:57.378 --> 00:11:00.043 fairly and competitively compensated. NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 c27b344d-f728-49e9-ad59-675752c356c9 00:11:00.043 --> 00:11:05.510 The effect of not doing this is well NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 b4154f5d-71cd-41ab-aeda-5c9559cd8ee7 00:11:05.510 --> 00:11:08.960 illustrated by the fact that since 2019, NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 711c1c55-9eb0-4d25-a007-ebf853648be9 00:11:08.960 --> 00:11:11.810 the salaries of federal District NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 b8535e8f-9f37-4835-924c-3cf13594d971 00:11:11.810 --> 00:11:14.487 Court judges have increased by NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 a64fbd30-d521-4d8c-bafa-3822735645d4 00:11:14.487 --> 00:11:16.290 over $20,000 to $232,600, NOTE Confidence: 0.9382875 8fa02f90-15d9-4664-9973-4f5ec42ecc43 00:11:16.290 --> 00:11:16.790 and NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 47e52163-1652-420a-b4be-f72527eb4776 00:11:21.110 --> 00:11:24.980 during that four year period they NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 8e3a06f3-1ac8-4532-b46c-9a1d76e33ea0 00:11:24.980 --> 00:11:28.060 have been paid nearly $50,000 more NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 adf1ffe5-32f9-4f0b-bdde-b37c5a61b325 00:11:28.060 --> 00:11:31.540 than New York Supreme Court justices. NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 caa2b883-6987-4b77-9aef-9131860c56bb 00:11:31.540 --> 00:11:34.748 I would perhaps be remiss if I failed NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 b1b92e11-10e3-4e9a-8d55-9524a86df3f8 00:11:34.748 --> 00:11:37.362 to acknowledge that not everyone who NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 4ebd3812-d542-4d11-9212-1b44189f757e 00:11:37.362 --> 00:11:39.954 has served on past commissions has NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 45fab6f6-9ecd-4f1d-9013-45263b7cb5c4 00:11:40.037 --> 00:11:42.630 agreed that the pay of the federal NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 17f40506-e77b-4572-8f86-58611dbb0c51 00:11:42.630 --> 00:11:44.740 judiciary is the correct benchmark NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 79bddcec-0630-4b52-8a75-d415378df957 00:11:44.740 --> 00:11:47.362 to use in determining the appropriate NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 4da5f330-61c1-4275-86c7-c4c608987f0c 00:11:47.362 --> 00:11:49.660 compensation of New York's judges. NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 67897e95-5738-4734-9a18-69c2298ae93e 00:11:49.660 --> 00:11:52.796 This was indeed an issue that was vigorously NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 d1ec21c5-5481-4d58-9703-be6e9cb9db23 00:11:52.796 --> 00:11:55.302 debated by the 2019 Commissioners. NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 aaba8087-8e8c-4d57-9d81-297d752afa7a 00:11:55.302 --> 00:11:59.025 I would simply urge this Commission to NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 1f3d3264-ac85-4c5a-8452-660f14a6efb9 00:11:59.025 --> 00:12:02.355 carefully review the reports of your NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 18297039-4735-450f-b0de-9b6622b2c64a 00:12:02.355 --> 00:12:05.994 predecessors and the reasons that the 2011 NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 d0fcbed6-109e-4c9e-940c-90bf87bb345b 00:12:05.994 --> 00:12:10.590 and 2015 Commissions embraced federal parity. NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 9fffa7f4-efe4-4306-bbb0-35730cefc5a1 00:12:10.590 --> 00:12:13.014 And I believe you will conclude NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 35b1063d-c43a-4682-9758-d3ddba0b1953 00:12:13.014 --> 00:12:15.310 that this benchmark is logical, NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 dc67b288-2c8e-4069-bf97-652a49785237 00:12:15.310 --> 00:12:17.032 fair and sustainable, NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 a0805e19-caa1-481f-892d-4ab397a073fe 00:12:17.032 --> 00:12:20.476 as the legislature also concluded prior NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 73279b0a-3314-47c6-b650-d09d056113e9 00:12:20.476 --> 00:12:24.366 to the establishment of the Commission. NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 3226e9be-ca5a-4e32-8aa1-f7b185857da0 00:12:24.370 --> 00:12:26.794 Now, since you are going to be hearing NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 652fd1de-530d-44f3-b512-476032cc3be2 00:12:26.794 --> 00:12:28.729 next from the budget director, NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 96af8f8b-868d-4411-8ebc-c0487599590d 00:12:28.730 --> 00:12:31.202 let me briefly address another factor NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 6253f6ea-067e-47b4-a010-084a17bd3c7b 00:12:31.202 --> 00:12:34.434 that the Commission must consider and one NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 301aff7f-ed7e-46a1-b4d7-9071233db2a3 00:12:34.434 --> 00:12:38.370 that is doubtless on many of your minds, NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 35eea4c3-2061-4f41-a96b-a6a7b5dd124f 00:12:38.370 --> 00:12:41.700 the state's ability to pay for NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 0b46419a-a85e-4aef-b41c-3100b08837e9 00:12:41.700 --> 00:12:43.365 those salary adjustments. NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 2a1bab01-4c85-4343-b580-666115ab7eb8 00:12:43.370 --> 00:12:45.392 To be sure, NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 71ea4d8f-8f8e-4128-879e-f61a19a191ed 00:12:45.392 --> 00:12:48.088 the state's projected economic NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 a0f2bedb-7dd2-4593-b942-0f79cea43378 00:12:48.090 --> 00:12:53.118 outlook is somewhat uncertain. NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 f5a9d001-376d-4b84-b523-daa7d642b7c3 00:12:53.120 --> 00:12:56.102 We in the judiciary are not oblivious NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 dfdde1ae-1136-4404-8001-bfd5f0e8db90 00:12:56.102 --> 00:12:56.954 to that. NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 7e66f30d-0d6e-4be9-893b-910ad71f88dd 00:12:56.960 --> 00:12:58.560 It's worth noting, however, NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 73a7df94-de2e-40b6-8062-aa15e4d06b0d 00:12:58.560 --> 00:13:01.004 that the 2011 Commission recommended NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 895a5fe6-1b0c-4084-a186-fda2938e74fa 00:13:01.004 --> 00:13:03.196 increases to judicial salaries NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 8a01ff9c-20bb-4e7d-b0f8-2c1cfbd1540f 00:13:03.196 --> 00:13:06.176 during what it called, quote, NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 d1d49a20-1d21-47a1-8a04-e44b126d1bdb 00:13:06.176 --> 00:13:09.120 an unprecedented budget crisis. NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 599e77e6-0079-42e2-b826-1184454742de 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:10.332 End of quote. NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 1cde3954-54b8-417c-bcd5-aa357adce56e 00:13:10.332 --> 00:13:12.756 It did so because it recognized NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 9e92a62c-b8fc-4784-bce9-275cb9eafd49 00:13:12.756 --> 00:13:14.160 the importance, NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 91a4eed7-0055-41e8-856b-f9f2ebc48d23 00:13:14.160 --> 00:13:16.920 even when the economy is it NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 47312996-946a-4fa1-a4b2-47ca2aa23e04 00:13:16.920 --> 00:13:18.760 is less than ideal, NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 82ce5141-a918-4077-992c-f04ce12b4908 00:13:18.760 --> 00:13:23.296 of fairly compensating New York's judges. NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 a4a7bb05-12f0-41b4-82c6-949368fde6ec 00:13:23.300 --> 00:13:26.534 What we are proposing is not excessive. NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 17b8b683-c082-4ab1-8d55-b11bbdbded8d 00:13:26.540 --> 00:13:30.210 The total cost will be 34.5 million NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 be9fcfd0-ac35-45a1-be45-18fccad8feec 00:13:30.210 --> 00:13:33.255 in the first year and an estimated NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 d2f41353-3ae8-48d9-8111-63c6be34e945 00:13:33.260 --> 00:13:35.927 4.6 million for the modest cost of NOTE Confidence: 0.9402783 7c88fc30-a995-4d79-94f8-bdd4344f96a0 00:13:35.927 --> 00:13:38.300 living adjustments in subsequent years. NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 b55da27c-95d6-45ca-9a03-cc5bb9187946 00:13:41.020 --> 00:13:44.500 34.5 million is a mere 1% of NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 06abed5f-ed96-4e67-815e-a5c55ad74bea 00:13:44.500 --> 00:13:47.620 the judiciary budget and a tiny, NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 12cc7f2c-59bb-4ee0-8286-71b1dee8b581 00:13:47.620 --> 00:13:50.072 tiny fraction of 1%, NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 bc610da1-630b-4aa8-a89a-00c377c2934c 00:13:50.072 --> 00:13:53.750 at least three hundreds of 1% NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 cc7ff8ac-7fed-434c-9eaa-c9dfaf54f60e 00:13:53.750 --> 00:13:56.670 of the total state budget. NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 7708ef3d-7098-4179-9cae-3301a09167db 00:13:56.670 --> 00:14:00.864 Moreover, in considering the cost of these NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 5ad9590f-d507-4c28-9d98-2e7caa53dca8 00:14:00.864 --> 00:14:03.549 prospective salary a judgment adjustments, NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 0823f8f3-88c9-4b0c-ba08-bae82660b56f 00:14:03.550 --> 00:14:06.714 it is important to acknowledge that the NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 1bbc93d5-efd8-4902-a12e-9d7d850e7355 00:14:06.714 --> 00:14:10.083 Commission's decisions in 2019 and 2020, NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 37498d7f-5ec7-4116-9cba-d48e7f70eb95 00:14:10.083 --> 00:14:14.109 by declining to maintain federal parity, NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 321c262c-3ba0-456d-a0f5-59a631c06a47 00:14:14.110 --> 00:14:18.328 save the state over $40 million NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 fa92a43c-8a7f-4425-8eff-3925d5c53ad0 00:14:18.330 --> 00:14:20.530 over the past several years, NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 51cd64a8-1b4a-4c83-b121-f57d4c3cf42f 00:14:20.530 --> 00:14:23.925 A time during which the governors and NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 a7826f20-7717-475d-aa28-768b21857b17 00:14:23.925 --> 00:14:26.250 the legislators salaries increased, NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 35d4b18d-5b31-4756-b683-81bd40307c40 00:14:26.250 --> 00:14:27.843 and rightly so. NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 cf62b6de-3a60-4b8e-8f3f-3bc89f7a512c 00:14:27.843 --> 00:14:30.781 But judges salaries were unfairly NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 7b8866c9-fa23-4e71-8bc5-a7b8224bc467 00:14:30.781 --> 00:14:32.403 substantially diminished, NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 cef276df-e876-4080-855d-73f22bd9bc69 00:14:32.403 --> 00:14:35.647 diminished in real terms. NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 a6b62c83-364c-476b-ae7b-5ce6de3eafdb 00:14:35.650 --> 00:14:37.783 The final point I want to make is that NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 530a84ae-c4a4-45ae-8b96-1f416eaf1dd0 00:14:37.783 --> 00:14:40.510 in the next few years our court system NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 2fe1b385-7f4c-4c6a-a961-84b794f5bd1a 00:14:40.510 --> 00:14:44.130 will have our work cut out for us. NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 73eb46ad-be4e-4ec2-9ae4-8c1fb298f13f 00:14:44.130 --> 00:14:47.562 New York's courts are breathtakingly busy, NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 130dd9a5-5575-49d0-8731-ab26ada48fd8 00:14:47.562 --> 00:14:49.770 even in ordinary times, NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 c3b7c688-b9a1-4578-b381-8b332d920e15 00:14:49.770 --> 00:14:52.290 but since March of 2020, NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 189a391c-056f-431e-8430-7fe60937514d 00:14:52.290 --> 00:14:55.170 things have been far from ordinary. NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 126f70d3-439e-48c7-853e-b51487e89271 00:14:55.170 --> 00:14:57.325 The tremendous progress that our NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 796bace8-ab32-4041-8ab9-7275371a672c 00:14:57.325 --> 00:14:59.480 judges and other court employees NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 26990193-a200-4399-bfd6-110a575bf38f 00:14:59.550 --> 00:15:02.090 had made significantly reducing the NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 c98b94f8-8942-404a-a191-91f1177d6f80 00:15:02.090 --> 00:15:04.122 caseload backlogs was regrettably NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 476291f8-c7a0-4bdb-9fa7-f2581fc9192e 00:15:04.130 --> 00:15:08.155 largely undone by the strict NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 5689df9a-d246-4856-8611-0133d97ad9cd 00:15:08.155 --> 00:15:10.942 operational constraints that were NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 5bb0a0c0-f37a-4699-a1bf-e41684300a69 00:15:10.942 --> 00:15:13.286 unavoidable during the pandemic, NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 81e715bc-0db4-4de5-adee-d08dc858255e 00:15:13.290 --> 00:15:15.590 particularly in the family NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 f4f6ed47-4cab-458d-9a50-3ea177b52f72 00:15:15.590 --> 00:15:17.315 and criminal courts. NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 a625278f-db8c-4938-a80e-6de94f9872bb 00:15:17.320 --> 00:15:20.080 We need to address these delays, NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 41149e94-38fe-40de-ae23-631cc2fcfafe 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:22.957 and we need to do so expeditiously. NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 feffb1f4-735a-43eb-8cb7-20ddcdb9cb9f 00:15:22.960 --> 00:15:25.312 I have no doubt that New York's NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 d5f18592-d997-42d1-b4b4-b8290e92aaac 00:15:25.312 --> 00:15:27.680 judiciary is up to this challenge. NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 3e34a2de-8054-4142-9db8-6ff6397c32e7 00:15:27.680 --> 00:15:30.310 But this satisfaction with frozen NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 bc374ab5-f991-42e3-b2bf-2aaebb9f8c14 00:15:30.310 --> 00:15:32.940 salaries and the attrition that NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 ce652da3-4717-4660-a4a8-7ffb7f1f3f34 00:15:33.028 --> 00:15:36.064 inevitably comes with long periods of NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 c042849f-461a-4a84-b99f-b500d2822879 00:15:36.064 --> 00:15:39.340 stagnant pay will make this critical NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 26037341-8836-4d2d-8485-11457e636b4a 00:15:39.340 --> 00:15:41.600 work immeasurably more difficult. NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 59881be2-062b-41c1-ada6-7ce31eedd328 00:15:41.600 --> 00:15:42.025 Indeed, NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 aee4d825-670e-4235-9a6c-af39e299f7b2 00:15:42.025 --> 00:15:43.300 in my view, NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 a35b75f2-0b07-4850-a264-2dd096a7ff3d 00:15:43.300 --> 00:15:45.850 further erosion of the value of NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 c11502f2-9cfb-4764-9f2c-4b1e7cbab058 00:15:45.933 --> 00:15:47.865 judicial salaries would likely NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 eb9d45ae-23e3-4454-b147-8d28d2256b69 00:15:47.865 --> 00:15:50.763 cause an exodus of our most NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 627d211b-1354-4e6f-9dbe-770b149bf25f 00:15:50.850 --> 00:15:54.862 experienced judges at a time when NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 84f2717c-ebd9-41f1-b48e-d4af5d22fe7c 00:15:54.862 --> 00:15:57.210 their collective experience at NOTE Confidence: 0.93285644 e0c84ab0-30e6-47e8-84c1-b656a216ca97 00:15:57.210 --> 00:15:59.510 case resolution is most needed. NOTE Confidence: 0.93690187 81d8b9a6-ed25-4e81-a37a-817e13730105 00:16:01.790 --> 00:16:04.350 It would not surprise you that I have NOTE Confidence: 0.93690187 08e6cf64-7446-4e16-a211-298d443ca798 00:16:04.350 --> 00:16:07.333 the highest regard for the judges in what NOTE Confidence: 0.93690187 e1b40d37-a1b1-439a-8335-833f3247d9d9 00:16:07.333 --> 00:16:10.324 we affectionately call our court family. NOTE Confidence: 0.93690187 8a280db0-aca6-4b94-9bff-f68ba009e8a5 00:16:10.324 --> 00:16:13.575 They are serious, hard working public NOTE Confidence: 0.93690187 13024eb4-de00-4d78-8151-9517d59592d8 00:16:13.575 --> 00:16:16.365 servants who do the important work NOTE Confidence: 0.93690187 888eec00-5177-430f-98e8-841f41afcdaf 00:16:16.365 --> 00:16:18.932 of dispensing fair and equitable NOTE Confidence: 0.93690187 fe54142a-93c5-4eb9-8270-6acae3789c10 00:16:18.932 --> 00:16:22.460 justice in millions of cases per year. NOTE Confidence: 0.93690187 45fb2877-4459-40ae-8903-988f04ecb2fa 00:16:22.460 --> 00:16:24.574 I am not asking that you receive NOTE Confidence: 0.93690187 d1c6eed2-4228-4813-b7d0-e81a82b58b3d 00:16:24.574 --> 00:16:27.124 that that they receive a raise, NOTE Confidence: 0.93690187 432b0b1e-785b-4fa7-8bdb-becf346c0656 00:16:27.124 --> 00:16:29.554 certainly not as that term NOTE Confidence: 0.93690187 36afdbf7-c778-4b84-a5f6-bc8aad96771a 00:16:29.554 --> 00:16:32.140 is generally understood. NOTE Confidence: 0.93690187 3802d6af-d1ee-4eee-b222-2db5428d5130 00:16:32.140 --> 00:16:34.864 I'm simply asking that the value NOTE Confidence: 0.93690187 56bc6a29-415f-49fb-9b4f-8b2a9b747494 00:16:34.864 --> 00:16:37.236 of their paychecks be restored NOTE Confidence: 0.93690187 62cf2377-3d39-4f15-8b25-4f873f127972 00:16:37.236 --> 00:16:39.824 to to the level of their federal NOTE Confidence: 0.93690187 54721e7e-2242-4b7e-a74f-9eb9eccee981 00:16:39.824 --> 00:16:41.735 counterparts and not be further NOTE Confidence: 0.93690187 d35997f8-ae47-49a2-a829-4d0ba3a1f88a 00:16:41.735 --> 00:16:44.255 diminished over the next four years. NOTE Confidence: 0.93690187 0d924d4c-eb35-4969-98cb-3433793d5490 00:16:44.260 --> 00:16:46.675 It's the right thing to do and NOTE Confidence: 0.93690187 8be798db-8b01-4b6e-8690-9648bed593dd 00:16:46.675 --> 00:16:49.300 the state can afford to do it. NOTE Confidence: 0.93690187 3b656cc3-4e1f-4a63-bb19-eb2cd0754780 00:16:49.300 --> 00:16:50.420 Thank you for your attention. NOTE Confidence: 0.93690187 f851a770-1cc1-4c42-abf3-b0448df2a3d2 00:16:50.420 --> 00:16:52.310 I'm happy to answer any questions NOTE Confidence: 0.93690187 c16e5638-c329-4a2f-b1b8-f89b944cf6b4 00:16:52.310 --> 00:16:54.595 you may have. Thank you, Judge. NOTE Confidence: 0.93690187 91b80d23-6a5d-4169-b9b6-6865898be785 00:16:54.595 --> 00:16:56.820 Thank you for your presentation. NOTE Confidence: 0.93690187 dc7fce6d-08b9-49d7-948e-3447c5ef5145 00:16:56.820 --> 00:17:01.218 Weinstein. Yes. Good morning, Judge Zias. NOTE Confidence: 0.93690187 0acafae5-1b03-45a9-adae-dcb23525dd57 00:17:01.220 --> 00:17:03.770 Judge Zias and I had the pleasure of NOTE Confidence: 0.93690187 4e58b46d-f412-42cb-b18c-88dba9253fea 00:17:03.770 --> 00:17:05.190 working together as administrative NOTE Confidence: 0.93690187 89f6737a-b0ba-4bea-a8e3-0505a503d8a4 00:17:05.190 --> 00:17:06.255 judges in Queens. NOTE Confidence: 0.9313987 8a60d4ab-fe6d-4cf9-af0c-e8b4ccf314d6 00:17:08.390 --> 00:17:11.064 Just give me a very brief history. NOTE Confidence: 0.9313987 8a5e2996-7543-43d9-8e83-b2e049352265 00:17:11.070 --> 00:17:14.430 What you were originally appointed to the NOTE Confidence: 0.9313987 97940e6d-72fc-44e1-a916-1195b3666a72 00:17:14.430 --> 00:17:17.070 Criminal Court and what year was that? NOTE Confidence: 0.9313987 b7478598-a7e5-464e-b699-eaacd097adf6 00:17:17.070 --> 00:17:18.126 So that was 2003. NOTE Confidence: 0.9313987 2f27c914-09cb-4fd5-8cf7-f17f9071ace1 00:17:18.126 --> 00:17:20.909 But if I could go back even before that, NOTE Confidence: 0.9313987 a47da343-985d-4981-84c0-27a002f1e66c 00:17:20.910 --> 00:17:23.745 because I've been with the court system NOTE Confidence: 0.9313987 37a6c689-de3a-46b8-ac28-48bf3b0579b7 00:17:23.745 --> 00:17:26.603 for 26 years and I'd like to tell NOTE Confidence: 0.9313987 07e4b9bb-ff2e-4d5a-b80b-dda96c769701 00:17:26.603 --> 00:17:29.641 you that when I was a law clerk to NOTE Confidence: 0.9313987 56b3db27-5cf7-411e-a21e-9c34ada683f3 00:17:29.641 --> 00:17:32.142 Judge Acosta in civil court in 1998, NOTE Confidence: 0.9313987 9f87ea86-f5e4-4e75-9829-56eed0ae7fc8 00:17:32.142 --> 00:17:34.494 I worked as a law clerk. NOTE Confidence: 0.9313987 e7631121-6418-4b8a-abd4-1eeec9c350c4 00:17:34.500 --> 00:17:36.780 And every year that I worked as a law clerk, NOTE Confidence: 0.9313987 8b331c1f-468c-44a8-93ac-b8337e940045 00:17:36.780 --> 00:17:39.700 I got a cola increase. NOTE Confidence: 0.9313987 c9d6374b-60e9-47b9-b364-d5e1f8add58c 00:17:39.700 --> 00:17:41.860 So as a law clerk, NOTE Confidence: 0.9313987 dcea9f4d-1d11-4b86-ac19-28dea3f79751 00:17:41.860 --> 00:17:44.196 every time after April, NOTE Confidence: 0.9313987 d4d9831c-2410-4437-9e74-765028258b73 00:17:44.196 --> 00:17:46.866 first I got a little cost of living NOTE Confidence: 0.9313987 634a357b-fcfc-42ab-99c6-2ae920371ff5 00:17:46.866 --> 00:17:49.190 increase and then after a few years NOTE Confidence: 0.9313987 2de9139c-054d-44a2-868b-7f3cd463ae14 00:17:49.190 --> 00:17:51.524 you're not only also get a raise, NOTE Confidence: 0.9313987 79332105-70bd-451e-98f5-cc7fdf482ab2 00:17:51.524 --> 00:17:53.860 which was based on your years of service. NOTE Confidence: 0.9313987 8538da5b-05f9-4f9d-a3d1-79dc39429955 00:17:53.860 --> 00:17:59.118 So from so from 2003 to 2012, NOTE Confidence: 0.9313987 3725c3fb-077a-49e7-8963-1eb30a92091e 00:17:59.118 --> 00:18:02.292 those nine years when judges went NOTE Confidence: 0.9313987 d9be5a99-66a1-43e4-9d98-12a097b99f07 00:18:02.292 --> 00:18:05.785 without any pay increase and they had NOTE Confidence: 0.9313987 6a8b68a3-8891-430a-aa6b-bbf98c3cc62c 00:18:05.785 --> 00:18:08.170 already not gotten one since 1999, NOTE Confidence: 0.9313987 59af6020-e475-4ea5-a7a4-71c74ba3064e 00:18:08.170 --> 00:18:10.470 so 12 or 13 years. NOTE Confidence: 0.9313987 5a5b426a-d9d0-4d8f-bc1a-791d901c824c 00:18:10.470 --> 00:18:13.238 Could you speak to the morale of the NOTE Confidence: 0.9313987 2271ee65-40cf-401f-8efa-ac68bfb3d37d 00:18:13.238 --> 00:18:15.629 judiciary in the courts at the time, NOTE Confidence: 0.9313987 32a2a521-acf6-46fa-b828-7196a74a3756 00:18:15.630 --> 00:18:18.102 I mean I think it's it's NOTE Confidence: 0.9313987 f7c84734-4df8-4967-b2c9-a481a8db85c9 00:18:18.102 --> 00:18:20.230 unquestionable that that morale was NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 d28be6de-5136-4962-b075-ad06440fb846 00:18:22.550 --> 00:18:24.274 was low, absolutely low. NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 b89b55d5-623a-4fdc-8724-967cd433a266 00:18:24.274 --> 00:18:26.429 It was on judges minds. NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 2548b8e0-ce71-42a7-afac-2cce9773279a 00:18:26.430 --> 00:18:29.270 I mean you know when you when you NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 9e90b827-d06a-4d7e-b0fd-188bb43c25c4 00:18:29.270 --> 00:18:31.094 when your compensation is stagnant NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 87d9979b-1735-4eef-97ab-1e7db1d8befd 00:18:31.094 --> 00:18:34.266 for a very short period of time two or NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 2929abb2-035d-4186-820e-c7b7d49adc7e 00:18:34.266 --> 00:18:36.550 three years judges will hang in there. NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 3b9839f4-1a5d-4939-9f8c-4f1b2eb0f603 00:18:36.550 --> 00:18:39.252 But if it if that gets repeated NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 7dea954a-f3ab-49fd-a3d9-3568def9e216 00:18:39.252 --> 00:18:41.582 time and time again judges begin NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 c5a7e76c-4e39-466e-9261-aa1e64bc42ce 00:18:41.582 --> 00:18:44.642 to to to I mean it's so natural NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 ce6e3a5a-4bf8-4af9-a232-9925326954f9 00:18:44.642 --> 00:18:47.294 they begin to feel like they're NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 9cb18f92-39a7-4ff6-8687-cfd27d9890ba 00:18:47.294 --> 00:18:49.022 they're not appreciated especially NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 f3810911-8f68-4057-83f2-6677b8aae37f 00:18:49.022 --> 00:18:51.800 as they see other members of the NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 37eff917-3572-4806-9585-550a946acc55 00:18:51.800 --> 00:18:53.900 and other branches of government get NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 72338746-f4e3-41e6-b5df-9fb637933443 00:18:53.900 --> 00:18:56.236 the raise get the cost of living NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 551f2da9-3d12-4f07-be56-3f8e6b6ddcf1 00:18:56.236 --> 00:18:58.150 increases and and and it hurts. NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 d89d0ad3-8716-4a38-9ef9-8a01f1ac33e2 00:18:58.150 --> 00:19:00.768 It hurts them. Just two brief questions. NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 32af76c3-c9ae-44e9-8ffc-ab082e7f78cc 00:19:00.770 --> 00:19:03.878 So if there is no judicial raise NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 723f9898-fa30-47a0-b21c-41f2a14da21e 00:19:03.878 --> 00:19:06.110 from this Commission going forward, NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 2d19c99c-5efd-429d-bb7e-52a4a4d09ad0 00:19:06.110 --> 00:19:08.810 that will be an eightyear period NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 590c9567-19fe-4469-8779-b88e2c50f40f 00:19:08.810 --> 00:19:11.330 and that would concern you as well NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 577b14e8-25e9-4b42-8263-660d9742a3ae 00:19:11.330 --> 00:19:14.038 that we would be mirroring the lack NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 93f381cd-37da-49ae-bc9a-31d9cb91f51e 00:19:14.038 --> 00:19:16.474 of morale in terms of that period NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 e1a142d9-8c54-44e9-bf85-f425e0253ede 00:19:16.474 --> 00:19:18.988 of time is that judges will hang NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 d0619127-f764-4bcf-b09d-be885b8dca63 00:19:18.988 --> 00:19:21.250 in there with a four, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 3d817ff0-5b72-4b6c-8466-1cfd02009baf 00:19:21.250 --> 00:19:24.690 and I keep mentioning 4 1/2 year NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 ae113721-ab6d-4a5b-9be7-07c8f1f97924 00:19:24.690 --> 00:19:26.162 without with stagnant compensation, NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 fdfe140d-da47-4c0a-9d27-4015227b0093 00:19:26.162 --> 00:19:28.370 but it's not 4 1/2 years, NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 25594317-7994-4055-bbc2-c1f1484cbcf5 00:19:28.370 --> 00:19:32.325 it's really five years because even if NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 75b99077-3180-4d82-88f6-a616e38010de 00:19:32.330 --> 00:19:35.515 and maybe say this more hopefully even NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 e0c65c3a-4214-4b06-8272-78d509c1a7e2 00:19:35.515 --> 00:19:40.289 when you hopefully recommend parity, NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 c10e5b4f-4a12-4b65-8ada-c379cfb08a0b 00:19:40.289 --> 00:19:41.366 that's five years. NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 23a11656-427c-4968-a604-ed8657ccef28 00:19:41.366 --> 00:19:43.520 That means that five years they NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 d22fd3ae-832a-4b32-947e-304d67a58536 00:19:43.591 --> 00:19:44.767 did that they were, NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 bcd96b8a-4b39-4cf2-b485-616f381e3a05 00:19:44.770 --> 00:19:47.730 they were experiencing stagnant compensation. NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 f6c565e4-941c-4ca1-873e-d45872bcca37 00:19:47.730 --> 00:19:50.394 So and they they are willing to do NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 a23b933d-3426-4738-8c3c-ec2407de5056 00:19:50.394 --> 00:19:52.787 that one time I mean begrudgingly NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 aa754ecf-4f6f-4571-bc7f-08a11b1a7293 00:19:52.787 --> 00:19:55.720 and with low morale but when that NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 2c5f9fcb-6365-4394-86c3-6a7279622ad5 00:19:55.720 --> 00:19:58.432 happens yet a second time it it NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 91d260b6-1bd3-45e7-adf7-5c5dbdc13a80 00:19:58.432 --> 00:20:01.520 it has I think a drastic and will NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 b8b440c7-a4db-47d8-882b-d74622b16181 00:20:01.624 --> 00:20:04.788 have a drastic effect on on the NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 50b5c71e-9127-4b26-8a6e-2c6d9fad9e5d 00:20:04.788 --> 00:20:06.740 the judges leaving basically. NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 c35215a2-592a-413d-b36c-4b2830175139 00:20:06.740 --> 00:20:07.900 And one last follow up, NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 e92b32f6-fdaf-4643-aed6-ce23501c0398 00:20:07.900 --> 00:20:10.716 you did kind of address it during that NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 5c107e3e-74ae-43e4-a56b-bc99788eed06 00:20:10.716 --> 00:20:13.588 nine year period when judges did not NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 99286813-df3f-4e84-8f92-58694795c7ba 00:20:13.588 --> 00:20:17.160 get a pay raise and this four year NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 d696c2f6-c0db-4390-9c81-5b16ec7b0b40 00:20:17.160 --> 00:20:19.955 period did you as an administrative NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 9d1b9345-257d-4b71-b3fc-4b7e3df2aeb4 00:20:19.955 --> 00:20:22.760 judge and now chief administrative judge? NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 4f5a0cb8-10c4-4ede-9947-8bfec419dd12 00:20:22.760 --> 00:20:25.400 See any diminution in the work NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 77872436-3db1-446c-8c80-8156c7bb5069 00:20:25.400 --> 00:20:27.160 ethic of the judiciary, NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 9df175d3-2042-4c87-8e84-1da3521e0311 00:20:27.160 --> 00:20:28.876 in the dedication of the judiciary, NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 5dac2732-8152-40e0-b8f1-60e1686d6e97 00:20:28.880 --> 00:20:30.476 Was there were there issues or NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 9df1d885-08b2-4231-a144-3d68e019b8d6 00:20:30.476 --> 00:20:32.280 problems that we should be know about? NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 f67e67da-0260-4a95-ae30-fc649fe320c1 00:20:32.280 --> 00:20:35.721 I think that judges with the integrity NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 c2a3f80c-969c-4106-8e64-5af934e6ccfd 00:20:35.721 --> 00:20:38.150 that they have and their commitment to NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 3f7cc66a-5630-4378-be87-48c7c6235bed 00:20:38.216 --> 00:20:40.960 public service are not going to stop working. NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 daa31a96-cf20-4082-8f7c-adb557a404f2 00:20:40.960 --> 00:20:43.039 You know they're going to work just as hard, NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 4a603372-6345-4d28-bdda-56d530516bbc 00:20:43.040 --> 00:20:46.040 but they're on with attrition, NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 c835bcfd-6425-4480-8ae1-e3c1e62b186c 00:20:46.040 --> 00:20:47.440 you lose experienced judges. NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 8668ace9-fe14-4700-94a6-5a4acbfce989 00:20:47.440 --> 00:20:49.540 So that's really going to be NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 d56e59c5-0262-43f8-bc14-0e08d31e3be3 00:20:49.607 --> 00:20:50.957 the effect as a judge. NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 43f1540a-ca73-44d0-92c2-6133e009f98c 00:20:50.960 --> 00:20:53.810 Myself 20 years I've been NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 f63097ea-c2e3-4e62-9de0-c0a0d3596309 00:20:53.810 --> 00:20:56.315 a judge almost 21 years. NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 aaebeda2-95af-44b7-8882-39520c8e1fe3 00:20:56.315 --> 00:21:00.639 I think 12 or 13 of those years I NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 4c7d638f-221d-4df7-9d01-03cf14bd06ec 00:21:00.639 --> 00:21:03.470 didn't have a cost of living increase. NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 ce5a5ddb-39d5-4d80-8237-8b1482a03941 00:21:03.470 --> 00:21:06.503 So my wife was a a nurse in a NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 03eaf895-fa6b-46cb-a35c-4722ef94c3f1 00:21:06.503 --> 00:21:08.496 state hospital and you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 b92f2b43-a149-4549-9404-c1ef16fec61c 00:21:08.496 --> 00:21:11.390 every year she got a cost of living increase, NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 8f39c4e6-bc86-4dc5-8694-401fc1685158 00:21:11.390 --> 00:21:12.867 maybe one or two years she didn't. NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 8f087cad-de64-4eeb-b46e-d045f06a28c9 00:21:12.870 --> 00:21:16.210 My 3 adult kids, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 1d32ffa3-33fd-41c7-a9ae-f50192fd5fec 00:21:16.210 --> 00:21:17.820 they get cost of living increases and NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 314f8b2a-b664-488a-b314-37d381b9e2c4 00:21:17.820 --> 00:21:20.230 they'll say dad, so you what you you, NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 567e2e6e-e7f1-4145-a095-119244b752fa 00:21:20.230 --> 00:21:21.588 did you get a raise this year? NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 e555bb27-d2a8-4109-ba2b-7d9b789803a9 00:21:21.590 --> 00:21:22.745 Oh no, we didn't get a raise. NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 4c44790c-7f9a-4ddc-a34d-a1dbdbf30cdf 00:21:22.750 --> 00:21:23.530 I know, But yeah, NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 75561cc2-0fc3-4f56-b796-312a9e5be64f 00:21:23.530 --> 00:21:25.105 but you got a cost of living NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 2e6ff449-5a81-4df1-a130-b89d1d3c8182 00:21:25.105 --> 00:21:26.525 increase because everybody gets NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 8425a8b4-b330-40be-ac0a-198f23883002 00:21:26.525 --> 00:21:27.945 cost of living increases. NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 5b874ba0-448a-4f46-a819-f1ba65d011e7 00:21:27.950 --> 00:21:28.166 No, NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 6af523a9-ba0b-497b-b272-9c698fd04fc1 00:21:28.166 --> 00:21:30.110 we didn't even get a cost of living increase. NOTE Confidence: 0.94092476 1c10cae2-b7f7-4088-bd30-8a7e659bd323 00:21:30.110 --> 00:21:32.990 So the majority of my time on the bench, NOTE Confidence: 0.9254477 35df2a61-7398-47b0-bab2-4ef766994ec0 00:21:32.990 --> 00:21:35.462 I suffered through stagnant and for NOTE Confidence: 0.9254477 7ae4cc30-2cb5-4677-afaf-0148e0a9967a 00:21:35.462 --> 00:21:39.150 long periods of time compensation. NOTE Confidence: 0.9254477 6c984e9b-4933-4d8a-af1e-06eb452a70ee 00:21:39.150 --> 00:21:41.014 And so I I think it's a real NOTE Confidence: 0.9254477 778e80bb-0e6f-43e8-9376-a605865fd0fc 00:21:41.014 --> 00:21:42.389 problem that the Commission, NOTE Confidence: 0.9254477 a9726b2a-4a20-4ae6-bcae-07fc13e43549 00:21:42.390 --> 00:21:44.745 the creation of the Commission NOTE Confidence: 0.9254477 3d5a3d10-d2cc-4369-a166-22d2603d3fd1 00:21:44.745 --> 00:21:47.570 was designed to solve. Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.9254477 a5588cdc-5f65-4aa9-8cfb-0b5377b5f047 00:21:47.570 --> 00:21:49.450 Thank you, Elaine Blaine, NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 42655fb7-737b-4895-8849-77cc0e544785 00:21:53.530 --> 00:21:55.770 good morning, your honor and thank you for NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 729be914-aea6-4f38-a334-c874c99d0be1 00:21:55.770 --> 00:21:58.407 your 20 plus years of service to this state. NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 96ec841c-0e0c-4e00-9d9c-4c8a0c09010e 00:21:58.410 --> 00:22:00.128 What I'd like to ask you, because he did NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 6b71a303-9f13-48f1-a15f-3d37704076bd 00:22:00.128 --> 00:22:02.250 give us a lot of numbers to consider. NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 ec1fe4f0-33d3-41a8-b99d-5045b4ad8a9c 00:22:02.250 --> 00:22:05.250 And in response to Judge Weinstein, NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 91005987-301b-4c0f-9369-4b7a5133916d 00:22:05.250 --> 00:22:06.330 what comes to my mind is, NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 53a229bc-f77d-49f8-93a4-f7a010a51811 00:22:06.330 --> 00:22:10.298 can you explain in real terms how this NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 fc9b8b41-5aa9-4f11-a310-363d235a78c2 00:22:10.298 --> 00:22:13.114 stagnation of salary for the third NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 5b12e189-7a72-4dd3-ba16-4cd15bc7e6fc 00:22:13.114 --> 00:22:15.024 branch of government has affected, NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 1791b7c3-6462-4a69-a608-075b1e9447bd 00:22:15.030 --> 00:22:16.705 whether it's yourself or colleagues NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 a1061614-13d2-4bcf-99a0-b7cbc97a4c80 00:22:16.705 --> 00:22:18.960 that you know, as far as their ability NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 8dc8ec3e-0c72-40f8-9973-9f5dc49af819 00:22:18.960 --> 00:22:21.070 to live and provide for their families, NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 83ddbb1c-6237-4e20-ba44-68d7fdfe1250 00:22:21.070 --> 00:22:23.188 especially now in the light of NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 10fc363d-1284-4e2a-be0b-5e1315c83d0b 00:22:23.190 --> 00:22:26.230 unprecedented inflation in this country? NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 fa274228-fedb-4a3f-b847-43948c2f99cf 00:22:26.230 --> 00:22:27.210 That's a good question. NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 d53dea2a-1d5a-49c4-bdf6-ae979d77acde 00:22:27.210 --> 00:22:29.830 So I mean, I just think about myself. NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 ed649e7e-d081-44f5-a02d-1ef16aa78d47 00:22:29.830 --> 00:22:33.950 I drive a not to make this personal. NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 5c19d99a-8c55-4c1f-9ce1-62dd779b131d 00:22:33.950 --> 00:22:36.914 I drive a 2013 Highlander that's NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 acaa7283-f14f-4e9a-b7ce-694622f95444 00:22:36.914 --> 00:22:39.470 scratched up and be done. NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 ebb73b8e-24b2-404f-836f-a08e682d6c65 00:22:39.470 --> 00:22:41.798 I cannot buy a new car. NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 1be005fd-361b-44f6-8c42-5ce813df50e9 00:22:41.800 --> 00:22:43.744 It's unconscionable that somebody NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 a7fe698a-8d92-4cde-b06f-13ad60af833a 00:22:43.744 --> 00:22:46.174 who's been graduating from Columbia NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 b74d14d1-a00d-491f-9c48-884a19f2bf2f 00:22:46.174 --> 00:22:48.998 Law School committed to public service NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 c8e67bbf-b533-49b9-b787-c5f920f00907 00:22:49.000 --> 00:22:53.158 can't afford because of the uncertainty. NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 f1a73bf8-93af-4dee-a8d5-f2bc4cb0747a 00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:55.596 And so I have a 2013 black Highlander NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 0f445caf-442d-48a1-bd1b-48d37a8f10ea 00:22:55.596 --> 00:22:58.480 that is parked in my driveway and NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 8a541549-2428-40aa-a693-86375483c36e 00:22:58.560 --> 00:23:01.320 my wife drives a 2012 CRV. NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 f2822c2e-b01e-48b1-b928-ef3c7151704b 00:23:01.320 --> 00:23:03.840 And so it's effects like that the, NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 50aa9a87-7130-4818-84f9-3f8a208c68f3 00:23:03.840 --> 00:23:06.129 you know, the high cost of interest NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 1a8ae198-65d8-449d-b7c1-2dcfe70eb286 00:23:06.129 --> 00:23:07.800 rates all of a sudden, NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 36482d14-df5a-4e20-b5e4-8210bd90a63d 00:23:07.800 --> 00:23:09.760 the high cost of mortgages. NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 e2504da1-56b8-4adc-a8a5-75b2868750a3 00:23:09.760 --> 00:23:10.880 We live in Queens, NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 f21b1d6b-d54c-4239-b152-63539db84160 00:23:10.880 --> 00:23:13.409 so the the high cost of living is NOTE Confidence: 0.93196934 a9ed3a5e-43a8-48c2-8d03-1e24dbf1ad0a 00:23:13.409 --> 00:23:15.755 causing judges to to really struggle. NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 2e2a4dc3-c06f-4af7-9cc9-1f94c376a039 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:20.812 Thank you, Terry Egan, Hi. NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 d39a8977-d779-413c-99f3-0a03c4acb28b 00:23:20.812 --> 00:23:22.996 Thank you again for your comments. NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 befc8d4e-9a86-4ac9-be4e-b0ad6470d349 00:23:23.000 --> 00:23:25.712 They were very educational and those NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 0571a385-25c8-415f-8d8c-357919f2c1ac 00:23:25.712 --> 00:23:28.840 numbers I agree with my fellow NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 8b4a4c6c-8060-4cfd-b79e-b31e4481453c 00:23:28.840 --> 00:23:31.675 commissioner question and I know know NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 43ede086-2e51-4ee4-be33-49ad11f6d836 00:23:31.675 --> 00:23:33.957 the position has been for several NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 abc203a0-b09a-4d59-94df-a1f1d182fe3a 00:23:33.957 --> 00:23:36.237 years the federal parity model. NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 1b1e0eed-a138-4277-9ff8-6a685730e7f9 00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:39.236 Let me ask you your thoughts on NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 3cafdd9e-8c9c-419a-b85e-cd3da6bf6fe5 00:23:39.240 --> 00:23:42.420 if there was another model or NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 94e9279d-db3e-4c6e-a044-ff9b42527efc 00:23:42.420 --> 00:23:44.540 another system established that NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 298d1603-a3af-4173-ac2e-3e8be5ca1c99 00:23:44.632 --> 00:23:48.510 gave judges the judiciary a more NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 2923888d-df14-45e9-83ed-43bd8f342b5d 00:23:48.510 --> 00:23:50.831 regular look at compensation. NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 d83e960b-6fbf-4625-9912-e38cbcc6def1 00:23:50.831 --> 00:23:54.348 Is that something that you think would work? NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 d9ab3da1-ccf8-4e1c-ab7d-072976dd55dc 00:23:54.348 --> 00:23:56.819 Because I'm listening to and and I NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 3102c2e3-afb1-4d03-8c19-adc6afa81baf 00:23:56.819 --> 00:23:58.943 absolutely understand a huge gap in NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 abb3eb65-852b-493c-8b83-053cb28d474d 00:23:58.943 --> 00:24:01.480 between times that you actually have NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 cd814795-cf1c-4690-b0f8-ba0669cbad38 00:24:01.480 --> 00:24:03.635 compensation review can have certainly NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 727b20ea-fb1d-49f7-a13a-9486b02be277 00:24:03.635 --> 00:24:05.660 negative effects on one's morale. NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 15800125-9183-4c4c-866e-efdea8637df2 00:24:05.660 --> 00:24:07.675 But again recognizing I think NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 99df3e9f-66ec-4d56-a4b9-222b9f220a04 00:24:07.675 --> 00:24:08.884 you've mentioned it, NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 4da0dfbf-8779-47bb-a231-0b6ffd1b714b 00:24:08.890 --> 00:24:10.895 there's certainly in different areas NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 e2c445aa-dcd0-4725-a060-6ede5a8f6709 00:24:10.895 --> 00:24:13.314 here in state government people are NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 60a4fef0-5af6-4593-997c-f8f9e9f155ab 00:24:13.314 --> 00:24:15.402 getting raises on a different system NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 053ca495-56ea-46a4-8fb7-0a9b5f658e82 00:24:15.402 --> 00:24:17.810 that's not related to the federal parity. NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 f35b7a22-0d1b-4620-9d3d-df02498d480c 00:24:17.810 --> 00:24:19.898 You also referenced as a law NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 b2a750ee-664f-4289-b420-644d18a16105 00:24:19.898 --> 00:24:21.290 clerk you out raises. NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 3cdc4e33-e849-4ff2-9535-42d31a82c39b 00:24:21.290 --> 00:24:22.952 We also reference there are people NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 d56eab6f-6cdd-4d76-863e-4f5905a51293 00:24:22.952 --> 00:24:24.810 out there that aren't getting colas. NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 dc1b8206-1515-4af2-a531-a4d899b56ac8 00:24:24.810 --> 00:24:27.682 So we're trying to find that and and NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 a839a1cb-298e-4f45-ac74-9322933e1bab 00:24:27.682 --> 00:24:29.690 recognizing that in 2019 there was a pretty, NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 b1eeb3be-8c0b-4373-add5-ac38851a7f3c 00:24:29.690 --> 00:24:33.890 pretty vibrant discussion in regard to NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 8c06edda-52e0-4f67-848d-9f062821c2d1 00:24:33.890 --> 00:24:36.570 using the federal system as a parity. 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NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 6ef210ed-a9be-4bb2-ad28-16772638948a 00:24:44.970 --> 00:24:47.490 Well, as I said in my testimony, NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 dd6edc7d-f127-45f3-9d43-b59332e8a1ba 00:24:47.490 --> 00:24:51.810 the legislature's made got a NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 54993815-fbdd-49b1-9c93-ecb7e60f7326 00:24:51.810 --> 00:24:52.902 $25,000 increase right away. NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 1f1f1d10-5ded-4c9b-89d8-8b69d607b43f 00:24:52.902 --> 00:24:54.368 So yeah, we'll take that. NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 5c6792dd-1de9-43e4-9372-6eb618f5c2e0 00:24:54.368 --> 00:24:56.204 I'm not trying to be facetious, NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 ac553b43-9cb7-4248-9fa1-92fc567412a2 00:24:56.210 --> 00:24:58.289 but that that is something that happened. NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 1f5c2094-a0d7-47b0-946b-69b825644d26 00:24:58.290 --> 00:25:00.790 The Governor received a very NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 0de56899-068a-4797-a3af-7defae5d2571 00:25:00.790 --> 00:25:03.045 substantial and and we think those NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 1da9f898-cc73-42c4-a044-d9e1f587c741 00:25:03.045 --> 00:25:04.800 were warranted and well deserved. NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 84abed0b-b062-4904-800f-599629ce4318 00:25:04.800 --> 00:25:06.678 If you look at for example, NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 245f7650-0a45-4446-a587-7573890eb1a2 00:25:06.680 --> 00:25:09.984 I'll give you court employees the contract NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 b3a066cd-0ebe-4498-b166-50ee594d1327 00:25:09.984 --> 00:25:13.200 that we just completed with them last year, NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 83822cba-2f51-4a48-8e0d-aa9a8502c7a6 00:25:13.200 --> 00:25:16.745 I think it was 2% the first two years and NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 2df7bc94-8dcb-4a74-8ad7-ff8ca07dafb6 00:25:16.745 --> 00:25:19.639 then 3% the next three years or maybe 3%, NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 813c178d-991d-415d-8fd3-b2b1f204ad7d 00:25:19.640 --> 00:25:20.136 three, NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 d2825ed4-75b6-42b1-89e5-b7e20be77008 00:25:20.136 --> 00:25:21.128 two percent, NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 ffa57403-beac-4a8e-9afc-d89914ad0885 00:25:21.128 --> 00:25:27.825 2% then 333 or 222333 that added to 14%. NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 19732578-0bf3-4b98-8db7-79ab629d9358 00:25:27.825 --> 00:25:32.630 That type of increase is more than the NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 b69c3724-8441-47a4-9fc3-f04d229425fd 00:25:32.630 --> 00:25:36.070 10% catch up that we're trying to get. NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 8dea35ed-2615-4674-baa9-d50412363c1a 00:25:36.070 --> 00:25:36.664 So, NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 bae25ec1-d90a-4b11-852e-3e5ff3d44b18 00:25:36.664 --> 00:25:40.816 but we think that the federal parity NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 30815593-4328-4b0e-b8c1-b1a314ca9efe 00:25:40.816 --> 00:25:44.918 is the best because it accounts for NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 b477d82f-81aa-47a2-bf04-8799c6e65b5b 00:25:44.918 --> 00:25:48.365 cost of living every, every time. NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 3534d124-e667-42ee-a084-8601923020f4 00:25:48.365 --> 00:25:50.305 And sometimes the feds, NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 8d278b11-9ff3-4878-a4db-c8b3d06fbf0a 00:25:50.310 --> 00:25:52.602 federal district judges get a very NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 6a8ef4e6-38b3-49c3-b264-bc90feeb0106 00:25:52.602 --> 00:25:54.671 small raise because of whatever NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 2ec5e1ac-cfc1-4d47-9920-f3aa26895af0 00:25:54.671 --> 00:25:56.547 the economic situation is. NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 e2f56a97-ae19-4d72-841a-45f590d67e76 00:25:56.550 --> 00:26:00.186 And so sometimes if you look at their scale, NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 9acd9461-593b-49ba-bd9d-36e9bab1a449 00:26:00.190 --> 00:26:02.634 you know one year they got $1000 raise, NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 a6189f7c-f3b5-460f-9968-e71e0c702e21 00:26:02.634 --> 00:26:04.444 it went up just 1000, NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 dab913b5-186c-46e0-a288-1a87bf77e694 00:26:04.450 --> 00:26:07.226 the next year maybe two or three thousand NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 5d115a6c-f11d-48a8-93ea-7d255a266e14 00:26:07.226 --> 00:26:09.727 when inflation is really particularly high. NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 ee21616a-503b-4c75-b8e2-01c6d4a6e32f 00:26:09.730 --> 00:26:12.556 Then they they got a I think their last NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 8a80801b-f553-4e4a-bf79-19f3d3e70ffe 00:26:12.556 --> 00:26:15.250 raise was a $10,000 raise in one year. NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 18d449a5-96dc-4d17-be9d-0aaff9e05c57 00:26:15.250 --> 00:26:17.280 The problem that we have is that NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 aa8e7828-5924-455a-b989-5c1f7686fa68 00:26:17.280 --> 00:26:19.288 we are always playing catch up. NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 a1a5d259-f75e-49ea-83d3-39385d5ca6ad 00:26:19.290 --> 00:26:20.890 So how do we, NOTE Confidence: 0.91670185 927394a4-f033-4cc2-907a-026cb561e331 00:26:20.890 --> 00:26:22.090 after having lost, NOTE Confidence: 0.93426126 f8764c27-5402-4584-926c-d75aa863fb95 00:26:24.210 --> 00:26:26.002 after having experienced a NOTE Confidence: 0.93426126 dba17cd9-9b0e-42e9-8310-5f48b08aaab0 00:26:26.002 --> 00:26:28.242 serious diminution in our salary, NOTE Confidence: 0.93426126 069894de-3caa-4282-868d-feddebf27bc2 00:26:28.250 --> 00:26:31.001 the value of our money, how do we, NOTE Confidence: 0.93426126 6075ad56-0c32-411d-96bb-280706e1a2b2 00:26:31.001 --> 00:26:34.614 how do we catch up to where we need NOTE Confidence: 0.93426126 dc42013c-65cd-4ccf-a124-3141f682ae06 00:26:34.614 --> 00:26:37.350 to be without exasperating that loss. NOTE Confidence: 0.93426126 17a456b1-2eb7-48f0-ba04-d08fee96c1aa 00:26:37.350 --> 00:26:38.624 So as long as we get there, NOTE Confidence: 0.93426126 0615faad-0824-49aa-a842-14eeb970945e 00:26:38.630 --> 00:26:40.950 I mean that that was a So what I just NOTE Confidence: 0.93426126 f182f45a-afe9-4d61-bd47-76fefee45f0f 00:26:40.950 --> 00:26:42.710 explained to you with the the the NOTE Confidence: 0.93426126 dba5241f-c270-4fe9-982c-1ec2e22f7872 00:26:42.710 --> 00:26:44.630 people who work in the courthouse, NOTE Confidence: 0.93426126 95eeb465-1524-4a2a-aa0a-5ca9b0dff698 00:26:44.630 --> 00:26:45.794 that was 14%. NOTE Confidence: 0.93426126 7f7fccf7-c013-499b-bcd3-92a60da69530 00:26:45.794 --> 00:26:49.558 I think that 14% is higher than the NOTE Confidence: 0.93426126 aa86e969-9902-48cc-8973-3642a8a14c1a 00:26:49.558 --> 00:26:53.750 10% that the that the federal folks got. NOTE Confidence: 0.93426126 01ac86ae-face-437f-8878-7a9c9f6036b1 00:26:53.750 --> 00:26:54.310 Judge, NOTE Confidence: 0.9349604 58d599f9-e347-46fa-baa5-91a8399bb9eb 00:26:57.110 --> 00:26:59.630 go ahead Mr. Magna. NOTE Confidence: 0.9349604 dfa70686-6a9f-419d-8e57-f22baf61c8cb 00:26:59.630 --> 00:27:02.426 Judge, just the point of clarification. NOTE Confidence: 0.9349604 4799cdb4-468f-4d01-a618-2017972fb60e 00:27:02.430 --> 00:27:05.293 The 34 million is the amount that NOTE Confidence: 0.9349604 74ac8e99-6698-44ef-8ac4-e25465d4bf54 00:27:05.293 --> 00:27:08.270 would get you the federal parity. NOTE Confidence: 0.9349604 ce8d1f41-2129-4149-ab5d-3db169f2d1c6 00:27:08.270 --> 00:27:10.780 I just want to make sure that would get us NOTE Confidence: 0.9349604 d6de491b-74d4-4bf7-90a5-0f670d9b0757 00:27:10.840 --> 00:27:13.224 the federal parity in the catch up year. NOTE Confidence: 0.9349604 25feef88-90a5-45c6-ae3e-2b1d0c5c569b 00:27:13.230 --> 00:27:15.864 So what when you have stagnant NOTE Confidence: 0.9349604 679465ba-2a57-4823-9a54-86c9aa7e8c97 00:27:15.864 --> 00:27:18.524 compensation for a period of time NOTE Confidence: 0.9349604 acce459b-f706-4337-b158-a2db9d7faaea 00:27:18.524 --> 00:27:21.074 that first payment would be you know NOTE Confidence: 0.9349604 6f7104ac-b6b8-48d3-95e4-c462857e5ef4 00:27:21.074 --> 00:27:23.450 it's going to be significant like it NOTE Confidence: 0.9349604 f9288a97-8e20-4f90-9325-748d33aab0e6 00:27:23.450 --> 00:27:25.669 was very easy in the last Commission NOTE Confidence: 0.9349604 00d93e04-3de0-4878-8dd2-288899ebea31 00:27:25.670 --> 00:27:29.030 for the Chief Administrative Judge NOTE Confidence: 0.9349604 afb735e8-b33d-4d95-9bdf-7c144ebbb9fd 00:27:29.030 --> 00:27:31.538 to to to basically articulate small NOTE Confidence: 0.9349604 8349f9c6-45bf-437f-9db7-e388092c51b8 00:27:31.538 --> 00:27:33.846 amounts because there wasn't a catch NOTE Confidence: 0.9349604 9238dc67-455b-4c98-910a-c7effc65bed0 00:27:33.846 --> 00:27:35.827 up they had we had two periods. NOTE Confidence: 0.9349604 f6b736f2-bebe-4949-98a4-1451f33b8e93 00:27:35.830 --> 00:27:37.828 So that's I I get it. NOTE Confidence: 0.9349604 048e05f2-f8c3-4883-bf37-d93caf5382ac 00:27:37.830 --> 00:27:39.825 And I also know how the folks NOTE Confidence: 0.9349604 2f1af48a-a644-47d2-ac33-9ebf7d861d4c 00:27:39.825 --> 00:27:41.628 that are coming on next count. NOTE Confidence: 0.9349604 83c677b2-11a5-44a1-9e0f-a18c40059cf6 00:27:41.630 --> 00:27:44.654 So the four and a half that you're NOTE Confidence: 0.9349604 6dde8745-7a35-4267-8204-304d367e8e29 00:27:44.654 --> 00:27:47.229 talking about is an addon to the 34. NOTE Confidence: 0.9349604 9dca41b1-47e1-4f58-8406-75ec13f3a56e 00:27:47.230 --> 00:27:49.470 So the second year cost would be NOTE Confidence: 0.9349604 a8d8df98-c587-4e81-ac59-8d901f4994fe 00:27:49.470 --> 00:27:51.230 whatever 40 million or whatever. NOTE Confidence: 0.9349604 f886bfce-8a36-463f-a2e2-71fd2df5b497 00:27:51.230 --> 00:27:52.700 That's what I'm thinking about it NOTE Confidence: 0.9349604 9fac72c0-3ad0-424a-84f1-6c7b66dc7791 00:27:52.700 --> 00:27:54.470 that gets you to federal parity. NOTE Confidence: 0.9349604 5d96bc11-fa0e-4d9c-89ff-c4c88cdb96f7 00:27:54.470 --> 00:27:55.214 That's right, right. NOTE Confidence: 0.9349604 2f0db78a-64b6-48d7-9a82-298544e266a6 00:27:55.214 --> 00:27:55.710 Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.92836344 d363940c-6159-4ef0-80af-b0cf969552ed 00:27:57.830 --> 00:27:59.890 Thank you. So other questions. NOTE Confidence: 0.92836344 70c0fe06-81cc-47ae-8201-14e35f7520ed 00:27:59.890 --> 00:28:01.248 Thank you, Judge. Thank you very much. NOTE Confidence: 0.92836344 69a97a5c-a98c-4c64-b84e-38fc5202da1b 00:28:01.250 --> 00:28:02.246 Thank you for your time today. NOTE Confidence: 0.9293915 65e5f65b-ca4b-463b-9db2-41b7e575e859 00:28:04.770 --> 00:28:07.535 Our next speaker is going to be NOTE Confidence: 0.9293915 3796aca6-dd05-42fd-b703-241973e40ba5 00:28:07.535 --> 00:28:09.365 on Zoom digitally and it's going NOTE Confidence: 0.9293915 ffea5eea-d5cc-49e9-b758-72fc5eff1cfc 00:28:09.365 --> 00:28:11.250 to be the Division of Budget. NOTE Confidence: 0.9293915 1ae6ebff-b757-4cc0-9aa5-51b9e6c4bf69 00:28:13.330 --> 00:28:17.100 And here they are. Good morning, NOTE Confidence: 0.9293915 a2164134-789c-427b-81df-848c83a6f12a 00:28:17.100 --> 00:28:19.325 everyone. I'm Judge Eugene Faye. NOTE Confidence: 0.9293915 7aa135dd-08fd-40d6-8a5d-d3e02ba3026a 00:28:19.330 --> 00:28:21.286 I'm the Chairperson of the Commission. NOTE Confidence: 0.9293915 6d3f4fa1-bd82-4cef-9cd4-f4db44819901 00:28:21.290 --> 00:28:23.047 Why don't you introduce yourselves to us? NOTE Confidence: 0.9293915 73a42edd-2dfa-462e-aa90-fa4b1595a74a 00:28:26.490 --> 00:28:27.210 Can you hear me? NOTE Confidence: 0.9289821 802bc992-c1c2-4aa3-8cd0-e2ae1b6e2513 00:28:33.070 --> 00:28:34.030 Go ahead, speak up. NOTE Confidence: 0.9289821 ce982702-4cf1-461e-a969-3c1f9dd0cbde 00:28:39.350 --> 00:28:41.550 They're muted. Oh, they're muted. NOTE Confidence: 0.9289821 6ea999e9-4d39-4d0e-835c-3866531b4df0 00:28:41.550 --> 00:28:42.070 Good. Thank you. Good NOTE Confidence: 0.9289821 d378ba67-4b0e-440d-8f71-664324ed484f 00:28:44.870 --> 00:28:46.870 morning. Let me stop you. NOTE Confidence: 0.9289821 3eed938d-093d-4920-a11f-2bbd5d502af7 00:28:46.870 --> 00:28:49.390 Can you hear us? I can. Yes, go. NOTE Confidence: 0.9289821 d76077fd-dd1c-4b9f-a8a2-880863131502 00:28:49.390 --> 00:28:52.256 Please go ahead and introduce yourself, Mr. NOTE Confidence: 0.9289821 90fc3176-9f4d-4079-8b3d-eb3662d31758 00:28:52.256 --> 00:28:54.536 Washington. Great morning, NOTE Confidence: 0.9289821 5065e99a-755c-41e8-8084-8ee706c5b9a2 00:28:54.536 --> 00:28:56.466 Judge Fay and the commissioners. NOTE Confidence: 0.9289821 65d048d6-515b-4f6d-98c2-de8815bb9301 00:28:56.470 --> 00:28:57.430 On behalf of Governor Hochul, NOTE Confidence: 0.9289821 3c9e49c6-f5c0-4b3c-b80f-b0351f472285 00:28:57.430 --> 00:28:59.341 I extend her greetings to to each NOTE Confidence: 0.9289821 e669e798-9137-4810-97cb-9f3c44cafd8a 00:28:59.341 --> 00:29:01.362 and everyone of you and all those NOTE Confidence: 0.9289821 a1316c6e-17e3-42a4-9618-677bd75fe1db 00:29:01.362 --> 00:29:02.787 folks in the audience today. NOTE Confidence: 0.9289821 1cc18051-5ea8-4de7-876a-3c2428bf48b1 00:29:02.790 --> 00:29:04.190 My name is Blake Washington, NOTE Confidence: 0.9289821 e33ae647-942b-4e53-9ec4-e8a03ef1e1b6 00:29:04.190 --> 00:29:05.830 the Service Director of NOTE Confidence: 0.9289821 05d5e739-1333-4332-935b-de991351006c 00:29:05.830 --> 00:29:07.470 the Division of Budget, NOTE Confidence: 0.9289821 401e69e2-2d23-4f78-bc8c-e5e29dd52a72 00:29:07.470 --> 00:29:09.780 and I'm joined today in Albany alongside NOTE Confidence: 0.9289821 19c42c23-7e71-47e6-af3a-a76ab0b95cee 00:29:09.780 --> 00:29:12.222 two members of my very talented staff NOTE Confidence: 0.9289821 dcf9aa14-8055-40fe-8016-3ea1f702889d 00:29:12.222 --> 00:29:14.310 with Matt Howard and Mark Macaroni, NOTE Confidence: 0.9289821 6ecb9e06-1187-4aa9-a864-f6dabb7ed050 00:29:14.310 --> 00:29:16.398 both of whom serve as Deputy NOTE Confidence: 0.9289821 2d7e3a6c-e877-4fbe-b226-47f39812a88d 00:29:16.398 --> 00:29:17.790 Directors to the division. NOTE Confidence: 0.9289821 24e3249d-308b-4df2-8b83-75a0958ac806 00:29:17.790 --> 00:29:19.281 And thank you very much for inviting NOTE Confidence: 0.9289821 d3ee8529-0497-44d7-9e6e-3f2dcf6021e3 00:29:19.281 --> 00:29:20.670 us to attend today's hearing. NOTE Confidence: 0.9393253 cd0ecc2e-1695-41ef-9b15-3f40e77d4753 00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:24.804 As you know, we're making recommendations NOTE Confidence: 0.9393253 21868ee0-bcc5-4e70-be4d-4bb9e68a4a87 00:29:24.804 --> 00:29:27.015 to determine the adequacy of judicial NOTE Confidence: 0.9393253 91714920-52ae-4e77-b4a9-65b3cfb85f19 00:29:27.015 --> 00:29:28.865 salaries and acting legislation requires NOTE Confidence: 0.9393253 d5eb7259-e7f8-4756-bcc8-ef49d295c47e 00:29:28.865 --> 00:29:31.042 the Commission to consider various factors NOTE Confidence: 0.9393253 9e9efcd4-feda-477c-b342-a44fd0cca2f6 00:29:31.042 --> 00:29:33.500 such as the overall economic climate, NOTE Confidence: 0.9393253 3c740b90-1271-4459-807e-e20f83a198c9 00:29:33.500 --> 00:29:34.835 rates of inflation, NOTE Confidence: 0.9393253 7b406b34-f3bc-4b3c-801f-8b87b5aa568c 00:29:34.840 --> 00:29:36.680 changes in public sector spending NOTE Confidence: 0.9393253 10efd62e-af4f-4424-af11-497bb9d14146 00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:39.064 in the state's ability to fund, NOTE Confidence: 0.9393253 87b61e44-60a8-4e96-ae86-e261add0cd3c 00:29:39.064 --> 00:29:41.240 increases in in compensation. NOTE Confidence: 0.9393253 f3b7e038-1714-4201-ab4a-b3d7ed6c4374 00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:42.710 So through my brief remarks NOTE Confidence: 0.9393253 bb8bf6e7-19a9-4c00-a7ea-4a3969ad8117 00:29:42.710 --> 00:29:44.680 in the slide deck to follow, NOTE Confidence: 0.9393253 b7953eee-13df-4793-bbc3-c6e6916d96d3 00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:46.720 we seek to provide this context to better NOTE Confidence: 0.9393253 3fcd13eb-eab7-47b5-b56b-56d538ff2430 00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:48.438 inform your decision making process. NOTE Confidence: 0.93433225 e3fd2464-c069-432d-97d9-9e9b15e58a18 00:29:50.610 --> 00:29:51.210 We'll jump right in. NOTE Confidence: 0.93433225 d6c61521-b4f2-4955-8ea0-457ef0f09269 00:29:55.490 --> 00:29:59.570 So go to next slide please. NOTE Confidence: 0.93433225 9b522321-efb7-4bfb-9573-fcdf5bedaf2f 00:29:59.570 --> 00:30:01.170 The good news is where we stand today. NOTE Confidence: 0.93433225 a988ea33-2964-486f-acd1-99f4dd194df6 00:30:01.170 --> 00:30:03.291 Just to do a little bit of NOTE Confidence: 0.93433225 b659a5f2-778c-470f-9dc4-b1891a270ed5 00:30:03.291 --> 00:30:05.288 framework of where we are framing, NOTE Confidence: 0.93433225 a72af2d3-cd75-4eef-85e3-ef0ac09a8da8 00:30:05.290 --> 00:30:07.294 you know we the US hasn't NOTE Confidence: 0.93433225 c2745d02-e5ed-4aad-b4fb-617510fec57c 00:30:07.294 --> 00:30:09.050 avoided A recession to date. NOTE Confidence: 0.93433225 998f22f9-41ab-4c3b-8b18-6073835ac841 00:30:09.050 --> 00:30:10.318 Many economists are still NOTE Confidence: 0.93433225 bfdf26bd-6976-4700-bf27-60f8d22fe017 00:30:10.318 --> 00:30:12.220 calling for some some form of NOTE Confidence: 0.93433225 d73d4e39-4efa-4886-a3bd-ae3f962b3548 00:30:12.286 --> 00:30:14.810 recession in the in the near term. NOTE Confidence: 0.93433225 7e6c2d18-94d7-452b-9e19-fcd2d427ee1f 00:30:14.810 --> 00:30:18.065 In the near term a hard or a soft NOTE Confidence: 0.93433225 67709bf1-bdfe-4847-943c-2efd31991164 00:30:18.065 --> 00:30:19.720 recession is is under debate. 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NOTE Confidence: 0.94045645 93e7a2b3-b3ed-4836-b43d-ddfb783d0757 00:30:56.880 --> 00:30:57.918 We know that the the federal, NOTE Confidence: 0.94045645 826836c6-c173-46b9-88e8-86354e48628f 00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:00.368 the Federal Reserve is likely to NOTE Confidence: 0.94045645 32e3bdca-4097-4de7-a20b-a8027e96706a 00:31:00.368 --> 00:31:03.038 hike interest rates in the near term NOTE Confidence: 0.94045645 ee82aef0-66a9-484c-983f-30b8d208589c 00:31:03.040 --> 00:31:05.580 because interest because inflation NOTE Confidence: 0.94045645 8c2d58ae-9315-4619-8ca4-d65ba6888311 00:31:05.580 --> 00:31:10.080 is still not quite under control. NOTE Confidence: 0.94045645 345b9ed7-5b63-44fe-9383-0d07aa9a06c2 00:31:10.080 --> 00:31:10.560 Thanks a lot. NOTE Confidence: 0.9366226 cac7b802-3090-4466-b7c3-9ef6873ec3f0 00:31:13.850 --> 00:31:15.466 We know that the labor market is is NOTE Confidence: 0.9366226 ee5f9114-c6b5-4ac8-8aaf-f0781665929a 00:31:15.466 --> 00:31:16.886 cooling in the state of New York. NOTE Confidence: 0.9366226 657e2060-cdda-45bf-86a3-deea066f7501 00:31:16.890 --> 00:31:18.870 After very high levels of post NOTE Confidence: 0.9366226 1dbde0d6-b69a-42a9-a330-ce8e14c39b03 00:31:18.870 --> 00:31:21.246 pandemic growth, we saw skyrocketing NOTE Confidence: 0.9366226 5c7c3462-45d8-4fa1-9e32-91ce0c9bf679 00:31:21.246 --> 00:31:25.250 employment from a from a a real. NOTE Confidence: 0.9366226 b56a1ef1-b953-4a3e-a12b-1f50362d7ef7 00:31:25.250 --> 00:31:26.846 We bottomed out during the pandemic, NOTE Confidence: 0.9366226 00d9bf87-df2a-4886-b918-ee5d71d73e9b 00:31:26.850 --> 00:31:29.125 no surprise to anyone on the panel. NOTE Confidence: 0.9366226 8fbc47cd-d30f-423c-baef-953549170899 00:31:29.130 --> 00:31:31.110 Yet our recovery lags behind NOTE Confidence: 0.9366226 88812b9f-98b4-40ae-b3c8-7b2c51c185df 00:31:31.110 --> 00:31:33.090 the rest of the nation. NOTE Confidence: 0.9366226 bbb6d1c9-f50d-4e5d-b021-bd6169496660 00:31:33.090 --> 00:31:37.131 Our our our jobs growth is 1.6% NOTE Confidence: 0.9366226 34504394-360c-410a-a1dc-45aea7fe7e35 00:31:37.131 --> 00:31:40.498 versus 2.4% for the rest of the NOTE Confidence: 0.9366226 fff035ee-476a-4849-b391-18d2e6169a33 00:31:40.498 --> 00:31:42.780 nation for a variety of factors, NOTE Confidence: 0.9366226 fe1d35e8-4bcf-4838-9c80-bc4bf2c9e67f 00:31:42.780 --> 00:31:47.300 but units of jobs are one thing. 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NOTE Confidence: 0.9371656 7b37fd63-ad90-471a-9459-fca6b22582fb 00:32:03.990 --> 00:32:05.430 And it's I think that the, NOTE Confidence: 0.9371656 0d080dc2-5208-4569-b59c-be4abcb9f228 00:32:05.430 --> 00:32:07.040 the Chief Administrative Judge really NOTE Confidence: 0.9371656 575c85c1-faab-47d3-8f8f-55a6302a4058 00:32:07.040 --> 00:32:09.668 related a lot of these these data to you. NOTE Confidence: 0.9371656 f4465030-0a1e-450e-9986-89712d79aaf9 00:32:09.670 --> 00:32:11.363 So thank you. Thank you, Chief. NOTE Confidence: 0.9371656 e1afc0cf-6b1e-4854-8013-b94208539a9d 00:32:11.363 --> 00:32:16.235 There there are, there are real and real NOTE Confidence: 0.9371656 bb8f7f92-8227-411e-bf8a-0f26abb633c7 00:32:16.235 --> 00:32:18.910 pressures facing everyday New Yorkers. NOTE Confidence: 0.9371656 ea0248e4-4462-4fd7-a437-9d6ef5ed8d0a 00:32:18.910 --> 00:32:20.908 We know that in the last handful of years, NOTE Confidence: 0.9371656 da76f2fa-59f3-4d96-be44-4a13bddbfef3 00:32:20.910 --> 00:32:23.514 New Yorkers have 7% less purchasing NOTE Confidence: 0.9371656 00e4f1a4-7933-4052-8838-ef0447bd4f02 00:32:23.514 --> 00:32:25.969 power than they had in 2019. NOTE Confidence: 0.9371656 27ea8d30-02b0-4a43-b90d-c6a2b2d0dc64 00:32:25.970 --> 00:32:28.194 We know that New Yorkers are paying more NOTE Confidence: 0.9371656 6447a904-ef9a-4aff-9296-8b4f79bc3821 00:32:28.194 --> 00:32:31.090 for their housing costs as of 2022, NOTE Confidence: 0.9371656 6623bff5-f51c-43c7-a80a-fdc2f61dab95 00:32:31.090 --> 00:32:33.690 substantially more than in 2020. NOTE Confidence: 0.9371656 128d503d-5fdf-4760-80a3-24bbd51ab7b2 00:32:33.690 --> 00:32:36.010 In 2019, we know that rent is up, NOTE Confidence: 0.9371656 18afc7ac-19cf-45fb-9cb5-dd88750b7204 00:32:36.010 --> 00:32:38.206 food and beverage costs are up. NOTE Confidence: 0.9371656 69fce2a2-b006-4df3-8cc4-3cfa84088f63 00:32:38.210 --> 00:32:41.110 We know that increase that NOTE Confidence: 0.9371656 ad2bc70c-ea70-4e11-bdaa-58d8b9a08c59 00:32:41.110 --> 00:32:43.850 childcare expenditures are up. 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NOTE Confidence: 0.9371656 702ae59d-4e9a-436b-9fce-6690161d8ee4 00:33:04.260 --> 00:33:06.556 Just to keep pace with inflation and NOTE Confidence: 0.9371656 aa42fa14-3644-415c-8dc2-5dc903058511 00:33:06.556 --> 00:33:09.081 just to meet the needs of everyday NOTE Confidence: 0.9371656 9a4a4463-c1ee-4ff3-ac79-63c6e1ff890e 00:33:09.081 --> 00:33:11.380 New Yorkers and people that are on the NOTE Confidence: 0.9371656 307abf6e-9a3a-4852-b2f7-2164109e7918 00:33:11.380 --> 00:33:13.459 bottom range of of our salary scale. NOTE Confidence: 0.9208552 bddb41e0-72e3-451e-bdfd-466b56241bcf 00:33:15.600 --> 00:33:17.957 So all of these things are true and NOTE Confidence: 0.9208552 dcbf19b1-77dd-490e-9818-6b34dd23ab10 00:33:17.957 --> 00:33:20.173 all of these things are are have we NOTE Confidence: 0.9208552 d120c25e-d147-48c0-a1f0-65499db29623 00:33:20.173 --> 00:33:22.427 tried doing in different ways through NOTE Confidence: 0.9208552 d1abf2a2-54bc-4b50-8927-d49d607276ee 00:33:22.427 --> 00:33:26.240 the state financial plan mitigate, NOTE Confidence: 0.9208552 d20e8b36-0c7a-407c-859e-ba86b7d1a9b2 00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:28.361 we tried to mitigate these costs to NOTE Confidence: 0.9208552 31775525-80ca-4a49-aac5-21df247bff2b 00:33:28.361 --> 00:33:30.256 the everyday New Yorker most recent in NOTE Confidence: 0.9208552 38de4821-d813-482d-8cc0-a64c43eb2a65 00:33:30.256 --> 00:33:31.600 the in the most recent year's budget, NOTE Confidence: 0.9208552 7c9e2616-c9fd-4a3c-b231-37d497445f18 00:33:34.040 --> 00:33:35.680 it's moving on to the to the budget NOTE Confidence: 0.9208552 e20245a6-f4e6-4d16-85b9-7063c3c716cf 00:33:38.320 --> 00:33:40.768 we currently sit in fiscal year 2024. NOTE Confidence: 0.9208552 ab8ebb21-55f7-42b9-9080-30507f85ac45 00:33:40.768 --> 00:33:42.886 So looking ahead to 2025, NOTE Confidence: 0.9208552 52d761a0-957e-4235-975c-807c88387298 00:33:42.886 --> 00:33:48.360 we project a budget of $132 billion and NOTE Confidence: 0.9208552 01717bc4-0159-4fd2-8292-fc5e45ce3e75 00:33:48.360 --> 00:33:52.520 with with $6.6 billion in in increased NOTE Confidence: 0.9208552 cae9b7f2-0a41-4f43-ab1f-e83e651b088d 00:33:52.520 --> 00:33:54.760 expenditures coming into next year. NOTE Confidence: 0.9208552 6376021e-b6ad-43b0-b2cc-39841be8c839 00:33:54.760 --> 00:33:56.860 Most of those expenditures relate to NOTE Confidence: 0.9208552 8cd4eee1-539f-43b1-81d2-7a135d351470 00:33:56.860 --> 00:33:58.860 our school children and the neediest NOTE Confidence: 0.9208552 fe4f55cc-9595-4e65-a2f4-a5eb53986f88 00:33:58.860 --> 00:34:01.436 among us on that are on the medic that NOTE Confidence: 0.9208552 7fb2ba4d-30c1-4bf8-875e-4f299d9e046c 00:34:01.436 --> 00:34:03.638 are recipients of the Medicaid program. NOTE Confidence: 0.9208552 ad4aac4f-3679-4bd1-97d1-143b51b60019 00:34:03.640 --> 00:34:05.558 You can see also here that general NOTE Confidence: 0.9208552 22ef5915-f69c-4669-b3d2-d39d346436b3 00:34:05.558 --> 00:34:07.439 state charges which relates mainly to NOTE Confidence: 0.9208552 396fd8c3-3eaf-425e-b007-8f79716d1377 00:34:07.439 --> 00:34:09.119 fringe benefits of state employees, NOTE Confidence: 0.9208552 49e3e94c-2463-4906-852e-0990716cd634 00:34:09.120 --> 00:34:11.856 those two are on the rise. NOTE Confidence: 0.9208552 132adde7-536f-438f-8484-7f743f32887c 00:34:11.860 --> 00:34:15.204 But you can just see just in general our NOTE Confidence: 0.9208552 2b15d664-2bdb-495a-86ea-6978ce0b7514 00:34:15.204 --> 00:34:18.440 of our $6.6 billion increase there are NOTE Confidence: 0.9208552 c8703c2e-1b62-4c1c-a6fb-c8a69ebffb51 00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:22.420 several major components that are are NOTE Confidence: 0.9208552 d1cfa31b-8d99-4e45-8a94-3411a7984f63 00:34:22.420 --> 00:34:24.058 that comprise the increase in a very, NOTE Confidence: 0.9208552 f4a826d9-fe21-4be8-a587-1978d0b91837 00:34:24.060 --> 00:34:29.136 very tricky to to reduce in any real way. 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NOTE Confidence: 0.93276703 9a73cdee-37a9-4a5a-bb10-93e3e2090387 00:34:59.160 --> 00:35:01.584 But first and foremost under Governor NOTE Confidence: 0.93276703 a9723601-0132-467d-a7f2-82aea3466f9a 00:35:01.584 --> 00:35:03.628 Hokel's leadership we've we've actually NOTE Confidence: 0.93276703 92328863-51b5-4d17-8d78-ee134baece74 00:35:03.628 --> 00:35:05.468 made some historic investments in NOTE Confidence: 0.93276703 5b79c8d5-71c4-4c2e-acf7-b53ce455e16b 00:35:05.468 --> 00:35:07.664 the last handful of years reflecting NOTE Confidence: 0.93276703 c3f86d82-b1e5-40c1-a3f3-b6b4aa83bfab 00:35:07.664 --> 00:35:09.848 an urgency of of underinvestment in NOTE Confidence: 0.93276703 c06b3e77-f850-40a0-9585-8b6f0478d68c 00:35:09.848 --> 00:35:11.888 a bunch of different state programs NOTE Confidence: 0.93276703 c5dcd813-5a22-4702-a304-ecc0f38ffdac 00:35:11.888 --> 00:35:13.784 over the over the the duration NOTE Confidence: 0.93276703 1d051dd7-d833-41c6-af8d-191b446a041a 00:35:13.784 --> 00:35:15.678 that you can see in front of you NOTE Confidence: 0.93276703 82117510-a7f8-40bc-ae74-a567fd3ec64e 00:35:15.678 --> 00:35:16.978 today of the last 10 full of years. NOTE Confidence: 0.93276703 abf9490f-1305-4281-82fb-21a205e21061 00:35:16.980 --> 00:35:19.416 We've we've fully funded foundation aid. NOTE Confidence: 0.93276703 95dc99bc-c8bd-49c9-a7aa-a41651795999 00:35:19.420 --> 00:35:21.315 We've provided record support for NOTE Confidence: 0.93276703 97242cae-bf52-40ec-91aa-3208aede8af4 00:35:21.315 --> 00:35:23.900 Medicaid and our safety net providers. 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NOTE Confidence: 0.93276703 2017cdc9-259b-4d02-92ee-d25bb5b39f8c 00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:39.976 So if you're looking at this chart NOTE Confidence: 0.93276703 b13fe820-43c9-4723-bedb-1016c6bf0ef2 00:35:39.976 --> 00:35:44.080 before us today, yes, Judge V, NOTE Confidence: 0.93276703 f455f236-7328-4335-86a7-fb5703cc9b24 00:35:44.080 --> 00:35:46.360 excuse me for interrupting you. NOTE Confidence: 0.93276703 df8fc351-3ce0-4405-9e72-eb272248c0c9 00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:49.622 I've tried to limit everybody to 10 NOTE Confidence: 0.93276703 a3573a30-77dd-4e40-8b06-b4e4f04fc88f 00:35:49.622 --> 00:35:52.430 minutes and and everything that you give NOTE Confidence: 0.93276703 fd883679-7818-46b6-9205-7cf257ab559a 00:35:52.430 --> 00:35:55.206 us that we're asking that you file it NOTE Confidence: 0.93276703 16fadefe-bac1-4846-b901-ea1b476ffbea 00:35:55.206 --> 00:35:59.540 with us also directly to the Commission. NOTE Confidence: 0.93276703 3ba334d7-3dba-4c4e-9628-d6f368b1891c 00:35:59.540 --> 00:36:01.549 But and there's going to be some NOTE Confidence: 0.93276703 cf0b51ef-592d-42c3-8dfe-a29c784e6c1f 00:36:01.549 --> 00:36:03.260 questions from the commissioners. NOTE Confidence: 0.93276703 1d6f797d-b847-4431-a7d4-5080a66536de 00:36:03.260 --> 00:36:04.534 So I don't want to stop you, NOTE Confidence: 0.93276703 1014353f-fdd9-4635-a7a2-877d5dc6d9e6 00:36:04.540 --> 00:36:06.655 I want you to, I want you to finish. NOTE Confidence: 0.93276703 a4167911-7449-40ba-97d9-fce2c1e389f1 00:36:06.660 --> 00:36:08.058 We'll go over, we go over. NOTE Confidence: 0.93276703 7993f8f3-8ccc-42d6-8837-904d208ed152 00:36:08.060 --> 00:36:11.348 But I wanted to give you a heads NOTE Confidence: 0.93276703 83657eac-8644-4f28-ab4a-400aaca10d7d 00:36:11.348 --> 00:36:13.700 up on that and I I should have NOTE Confidence: 0.93276703 42f89f0a-72b6-42bf-b534-ed26a6989b0e 00:36:13.700 --> 00:36:15.380 done that when you start. NOTE Confidence: 0.93276703 9c4e4688-6fce-4063-8f05-31f260207844 00:36:15.380 --> 00:36:16.020 So you go ahead NOTE Confidence: 0.92929006 1ed41b7f-5a6c-4a10-9bbf-432cee039f21 00:36:18.140 --> 00:36:20.300 anyway. What I'm thinking is, NOTE Confidence: 0.92929006 f26fa63b-bd8e-4a32-aa75-8deda4bc70aa 00:36:20.300 --> 00:36:21.917 what I'm saying to you is don't NOTE Confidence: 0.92929006 19ba983b-4f19-4760-a2f8-b8d5a8ba7c2b 00:36:21.917 --> 00:36:23.698 feel the need to read every chart. NOTE Confidence: 0.92929006 b58348bc-e8ef-4d26-95fe-145cfa521e04 00:36:23.700 --> 00:36:25.790 You can summarize them to us and NOTE Confidence: 0.92929006 f04870bb-a9d8-4edc-8f78-6c9efd889d84 00:36:25.790 --> 00:36:27.540 to just file them with us directly, NOTE Confidence: 0.92929006 b174d234-2931-4cd6-9da3-bf08cd0300cc 00:36:27.540 --> 00:36:30.219 that's perfectly appropriate. NOTE Confidence: 0.92929006 b55f669b-ebba-4acc-90f7-c76ee7da497e 00:36:30.220 --> 00:36:33.300 You got a deal. OK, thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.92929006 caee7b7a-e895-4721-8d6b-2da485e71ed0 00:36:33.300 --> 00:36:34.658 So if you just look at this, NOTE Confidence: 0.92929006 bd36c610-5ba0-44c5-b8c7-4b475d71a367 00:36:34.660 --> 00:36:36.024 this, this spending chart, NOTE Confidence: 0.92929006 4bb2c510-e7ed-4810-895e-fc35d32f6d5e 00:36:36.024 --> 00:36:38.070 you can see the dotted line NOTE Confidence: 0.92929006 a24b67b7-9fec-44e6-96e5-8aadc6c38c2f 00:36:38.137 --> 00:36:39.775 is is a 10 year CPI trend. NOTE Confidence: 0.92929006 55c4263a-b007-4eae-92db-78b386aeedca 00:36:39.780 --> 00:36:41.537 That's just growth if nothing was done, NOTE Confidence: 0.92929006 5d3995ae-102b-4633-8f4f-85432f483b51 00:36:41.540 --> 00:36:43.616 if no new decisions were made. NOTE Confidence: 0.92929006 919de2a9-5717-4d2b-849d-c0a133350af6 00:36:43.620 --> 00:36:45.354 The hard blue line relates to NOTE Confidence: 0.92929006 909c4029-2d7f-40cf-873e-9fece06cc85b 00:36:45.354 --> 00:36:47.327 where we are under the enacted NOTE Confidence: 0.92929006 22216794-c79a-4984-9dd0-d3995afaa005 00:36:47.327 --> 00:36:49.217 budget carrying into the future. NOTE Confidence: 0.92929006 19418ad2-af5b-4d81-bb94-89a6243650ab 00:36:49.220 --> 00:36:52.668 The red line is where we where we NOTE Confidence: 0.92929006 d32a01f3-7a71-447b-94c8-2989f5f727b4 00:36:52.668 --> 00:36:55.212 we see ourselves going into the NOTE Confidence: 0.92929006 edcb9d34-1013-4500-a0b5-8e4d161ee85b 00:36:55.212 --> 00:36:57.175 future providing for unchecked NOTE Confidence: 0.92929006 957ec8df-2ea9-4d7b-ae1c-e0c9fd262802 00:36:57.175 --> 00:36:59.255 growth and restraining costs NOTE Confidence: 0.92929006 fffa6754-c32c-44ed-9552-579269e63dd1 00:36:59.260 --> 00:37:00.538 into the into the plan period. NOTE Confidence: 0.92929006 3d2b7056-0836-4268-93d5-b52145ea3b7c 00:37:00.540 --> 00:37:00.660 It's NOTE Confidence: 0.91900116 21e1a42c-ee91-403b-a8d4-9ba2a1513b5a 00:37:02.740 --> 00:37:05.694 going to go to the next slide. NOTE Confidence: 0.91900116 825069f4-b60c-4206-aabb-d869c5e35864 00:37:05.700 --> 00:37:07.352 We have in fact over the last NOTE Confidence: 0.91900116 862afc9c-9e2c-474e-9cdf-03d57c80c4a9 00:37:07.352 --> 00:37:08.806 handful of years built up reserves NOTE Confidence: 0.91900116 85ee0493-224c-4cb6-ac6b-f2b1fe8a10d2 00:37:08.806 --> 00:37:10.823 in the state of New York as a NOTE Confidence: 0.91900116 10c9a48b-c0bc-4457-b4e4-3c3de5f6426d 00:37:10.823 --> 00:37:12.219 hedge against reflect recession. NOTE Confidence: 0.91900116 bb1c7c86-e2b3-46c9-8d48-06207872028c 00:37:12.220 --> 00:37:13.060 You can see in the slide, NOTE Confidence: 0.91900116 b12961d5-378f-400f-a4be-d97d864aa96a 00:37:13.060 --> 00:37:15.376 there's about $20 billion in reserves, NOTE Confidence: 0.91900116 3e0277aa-9251-469f-b912-eb69463fc7c7 00:37:15.380 --> 00:37:21.190 19 1/2 and we we view these reserves NOTE Confidence: 0.91900116 66a3a1ea-6f81-4b3e-8adb-5da15992fefc 00:37:21.190 --> 00:37:24.035 as they're intended for to exist NOTE Confidence: 0.91900116 c9b7f802-d547-4732-a86f-c2870c01f494 00:37:24.035 --> 00:37:26.550 to they're intended to address NOTE Confidence: 0.91900116 d11a4c17-5f09-49a7-bdac-152757ac91f1 00:37:26.550 --> 00:37:28.170 any unforeseen circumstances, NOTE Confidence: 0.91900116 69ccddc2-64ad-4d0d-bd2f-6e5dfa821db4 00:37:28.170 --> 00:37:31.094 economic downturns not for NOTE Confidence: 0.91900116 f6e122fd-023d-445e-aa04-f6be1473bd98 00:37:31.094 --> 00:37:33.287 recurring operating expenditures. 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NOTE Confidence: 0.9401099 b3563a48-d186-4b28-b29e-d25c4d3a42b4 00:37:48.610 --> 00:37:49.210 Moving on NOTE Confidence: 0.9297698 7e88ab7c-0ae8-48e3-9e0a-a2abd148b5f1 00:37:52.740 --> 00:37:54.532 this this chart we want to just NOTE Confidence: 0.9297698 84fcc304-5e6a-402b-ab20-adbafab9b173 00:37:54.532 --> 00:37:56.466 provide for the for the panel to NOTE Confidence: 0.9297698 195e1e0b-31cb-4526-9907-7ca36ea7a4a3 00:37:56.466 --> 00:37:58.240 just show to demonstrate that over NOTE Confidence: 0.9297698 9102ca8f-8d34-4c45-97d8-89c57335d615 00:37:58.240 --> 00:38:00.140 the past particularly post pandemic, NOTE Confidence: 0.9297698 b2c982d8-4548-4d6e-b02c-e3eddaac622c 00:38:00.140 --> 00:38:03.060 we'd had record tax receipts NOTE Confidence: 0.9297698 12eaadba-a1ae-4592-8fb7-5e3ba45c5a27 00:38:03.060 --> 00:38:04.338 in the state of New York. NOTE Confidence: 0.9297698 81868bec-a40c-4d29-82a6-459668c9831f 00:38:04.340 --> 00:38:07.245 There was a there was an upward NOTE Confidence: 0.9297698 8d8c14b2-4e92-4a3b-81af-bf6a73d55468 00:38:07.245 --> 00:38:08.780 trajectory immediately following NOTE Confidence: 0.9297698 d6fb477d-35f5-4580-9dc3-4c85b3d1f7d7 00:38:08.780 --> 00:38:11.738 the pandemic that fueled a lot NOTE Confidence: 0.9297698 6cf2b9e6-3a35-4b0c-a3a7-5d5c9fd4e613 00:38:11.738 --> 00:38:14.192 that we reserved for future NOTE Confidence: 0.9297698 fee0f533-5d1a-452e-ac00-7681ca1d9632 00:38:14.192 --> 00:38:16.536 emergencies for future expenditures. NOTE Confidence: 0.9297698 007e8a97-baec-4a90-937c-cfacfeb32d84 00:38:16.540 --> 00:38:20.014 But in the lack in the current year's budget, NOTE Confidence: 0.9297698 6f58b0b2-aea9-4348-b152-3c8f4b26ab79 00:38:20.020 --> 00:38:22.350 we revised downward in the NOTE Confidence: 0.9297698 d4d4abef-163f-41ea-832f-bde64467a6fb 00:38:22.350 --> 00:38:24.842 neighborhood of $10 billion of of NOTE Confidence: 0.9297698 11c21f89-ffc9-46fb-8a62-358b8c868dad 00:38:24.842 --> 00:38:26.397 receipts of actual receipts coming NOTE Confidence: 0.9297698 1ce51075-468f-43da-b77d-a8c2f8543a2a 00:38:26.397 --> 00:38:28.100 to the state of New York. NOTE Confidence: 0.9297698 61575bfa-8308-45f8-9425-211b84363ee4 00:38:28.100 --> 00:38:29.548 So as a result, NOTE Confidence: 0.9297698 36fedd27-0c34-4403-9fbf-de8ddda6bdae 00:38:29.548 --> 00:38:31.720 we have a mismatch between expenditures NOTE Confidence: 0.9297698 eeabb83f-55fc-440b-8b34-dfd60f4c6c9e 00:38:31.789 --> 00:38:33.948 and receipts of somewhere in the NOTE Confidence: 0.9297698 86a65238-3142-4160-a77e-66fd2d35ed8b 00:38:33.948 --> 00:38:35.316 neighborhood of approximately $10 NOTE Confidence: 0.9297698 b9dccfc5-7ed9-4c33-a7d5-a844fb18730a 00:38:35.316 --> 00:38:37.004 billion of which we're going to be NOTE Confidence: 0.9297698 53306e11-3311-466b-a42a-825280c168a5 00:38:37.004 --> 00:38:38.539 addressing in the upcoming year's budget. NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 d5deee40-761f-4297-acfe-df96348d3fe0 00:38:41.340 --> 00:38:45.230 Yes, this mismatch has has NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 df26c4bb-2a1e-49e0-9e73-78d090f25616 00:38:45.230 --> 00:38:47.630 driven out your budget deficits. NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 75a1c098-2370-4228-922f-2b57c6eaae1a 00:38:47.630 --> 00:38:51.150 2025 we have a budget deficits of $9 NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 bcc4f761-c12a-4c4c-977d-888e4a03c002 00:38:51.150 --> 00:38:54.334 billion and you can see a cumulative deficit NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 a5b261f4-914b-4f75-ab3f-f9482a2d5cc2 00:38:54.334 --> 00:38:57.550 here neighborhood of over $30 billion. NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 f4fa665f-0e62-42a2-9850-51f645466b93 00:38:57.550 --> 00:38:59.560 The $9 billion deficit here just NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 994c1852-bc3a-4cd8-82a7-c75344b4288d 00:38:59.560 --> 00:39:03.592 dealing with 2025 alone that is the NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 3eacb633-43bf-42e2-a659-329b1bc0538b 00:39:03.592 --> 00:39:05.462 the number we reported immediately NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 82ac9950-a4ed-483c-a4d4-399d6a3f438d 00:39:05.462 --> 00:39:07.800 post enactment of our budget and it NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 3f5ef7ed-0fb4-46ff-b234-c84df64100a0 00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:09.625 does not include other unanticipated NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 7302aa01-db87-4da2-91a5-9d7698d8c27b 00:39:09.625 --> 00:39:12.204 costs such as the cost of providing NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 6073d4c6-73d4-4555-b77d-b9ed91b207e7 00:39:12.204 --> 00:39:14.905 services to for our humanitarian NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 a974ab28-1cf0-4138-9cb6-72266257c981 00:39:14.905 --> 00:39:18.230 mission for for migrant response. NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 088e2327-dadd-4e9a-a81a-36b5fcac64f0 00:39:18.230 --> 00:39:20.995 These these gaps have to be addressed NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 5b362988-f568-40cb-85b5-11b5ab3f41da 00:39:20.995 --> 00:39:23.475 by by prudent management by Allstate NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 b316e3e6-589f-46ef-bbdd-358ac72b922d 00:39:23.475 --> 00:39:27.454 agencies and OCA as well and we NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 69552466-3717-4d3f-8e7a-19d79add24ae 00:39:27.454 --> 00:39:30.046 can't these gaps cannot be closed NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 4b691a9c-6b3f-437d-975b-126d3e411a1a 00:39:30.046 --> 00:39:32.990 by by raising by raising taxes. NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 b46dd3a8-5d3f-4c45-bf3d-63774358db72 00:39:32.990 --> 00:39:36.896 I'll just next slide will show that the NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 96f320e3-38d8-49d0-8388-17413eb08f6b 00:39:36.896 --> 00:39:39.900 state of New York has our state only top NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 c881e59c-ffcf-4aef-b186-ef5b576aa5ac 00:39:39.900 --> 00:39:42.308 top PIT rate is third in the nation. NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 697ebb1c-a435-452b-8462-c10de34e342c 00:39:42.310 --> 00:39:44.022 And if you live in the city of NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 067c00c7-4c3c-4905-be9e-7964866a1b3e 00:39:44.022 --> 00:39:45.768 New York our PIT rate exceeds is NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 f56363b0-301c-4a29-9efc-cb7a17eb2f10 00:39:45.768 --> 00:39:47.655 is the absolute top in the nation NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 e9d973da-9d5d-4b8b-a2e6-86f2e23fff3c 00:39:47.655 --> 00:39:49.520 exceeding all of its pier our all NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 886b77f2-d1e7-48b9-9141-75f5cef51b5d 00:39:49.520 --> 00:39:50.870 of our neighbors states New Jersey, NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 1cc21bd0-c36f-435e-ba69-b520c9495395 00:39:50.870 --> 00:39:51.900 Connecticut, Massachusetts. NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 d7170d3c-8a18-4474-aa44-033549268151 00:39:51.900 --> 00:39:54.990 Any increase here weakens our competition, NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 a99518b8-7f03-4ae3-b14e-4ac462e335c0 00:39:54.990 --> 00:39:56.589 neighboring States and NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 d7ab8e5d-ffc1-4923-8e09-4e10eea0c3b3 00:39:56.589 --> 00:39:58.188 our national competition, NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 6e001934-cb28-4e33-9dd6-e37b1b60a6d9 00:39:58.190 --> 00:40:00.670 international competition and of course, NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 c803ee4c-e879-459c-bb2b-7392b28d6899 00:40:00.670 --> 00:40:03.214 outside PIT obligations prompting NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 93f1c9bb-dd46-46a8-87f4-17c3042ed818 00:40:03.214 --> 00:40:04.486 governors to. NOTE Confidence: 0.9391968 d074d51d-0f13-4ac2-a3b1-22c9fc5c126f 00:40:04.490 --> 00:40:05.930 Consider out migration as well NOTE Confidence: 0.9223843 f259f259-3240-4f55-8ef8-8cf11a85f124 00:40:11.210 --> 00:40:14.970 Next slide. We wanted to just kind NOTE Confidence: 0.9223843 d3799f86-4d02-4a1b-b4a3-b6f48c124b2c 00:40:14.970 --> 00:40:16.254 of reveal some of the headwinds NOTE Confidence: 0.9223843 2a66013d-1e04-4abc-9f6a-0193d3befe94 00:40:16.254 --> 00:40:17.630 that we're seeing it as we're NOTE Confidence: 0.9223843 f5a71339-bf08-4e45-8f9d-ba0269733297 00:40:17.630 --> 00:40:18.810 coming into next year's budget, NOTE Confidence: 0.9223843 9b0c8fbc-c4a3-4a41-a01e-302db92748af 00:40:18.810 --> 00:40:21.729 all of which you've you've heard before NOTE Confidence: 0.9223843 3e3ad0f3-7310-45ab-bab7-1a0a061c5249 00:40:21.730 --> 00:40:26.029 all everyone on the panel reads the news. NOTE Confidence: 0.9223843 ce6b0a9d-fb2a-471b-b763-5752549b0cf9 00:40:26.030 --> 00:40:28.199 Here are the items that we we watch for NOTE Confidence: 0.9223843 c690ceca-4e61-4f36-aee2-ba616c6851b7 00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:29.790 the keen eye on every day of the week. NOTE Confidence: 0.9223843 e40c27e2-9ba9-4283-a0b8-6f17a5bfd34f 00:40:29.790 --> 00:40:31.602 But certainly when we're facing out NOTE Confidence: 0.9223843 d081a122-8f08-4309-bd6a-7535d4bda02e 00:40:31.602 --> 00:40:34.070 your budget gaps, these are things NOTE Confidence: 0.9223843 5f6bf0f7-58c6-4bbd-bd85-7bbe68197eb1 00:40:34.070 --> 00:40:36.670 that only exacerbate our problems. NOTE Confidence: 0.9223843 9f4a8dc6-fb71-4f2d-83b3-aba5b2bd93d5 00:40:36.670 --> 00:40:38.830 We want to control for the immediate risks, NOTE Confidence: 0.9223843 d5b4426f-aa6b-464c-af0c-4e4287d08964 00:40:38.830 --> 00:40:41.224 but we also need to make targeted NOTE Confidence: 0.9223843 4a7556f1-6959-48de-bbb5-1a59551553bb 00:40:41.224 --> 00:40:43.190 investments as we move forward. NOTE Confidence: 0.9223843 abdd0b67-dafc-437b-a075-10d1ae4755e4 00:40:43.190 --> 00:40:44.548 And you just looking at this slide, NOTE Confidence: 0.9223843 ed8ff2a8-f50c-439b-b155-3146d9559e34 00:40:44.550 --> 00:40:46.998 you can see between the two of them NOTE Confidence: 0.9223843 8552cf57-558a-4a88-8986-79bbeeea4f00 00:40:46.998 --> 00:40:48.300 where that's where our minds eye NOTE Confidence: 0.9223843 d9afa21c-4a11-4899-912c-4d93919a7825 00:40:48.300 --> 00:40:49.590 is coming into next year's budget. NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 6c410827-903f-4db2-bef9-deeb72f1d6e8 00:40:52.620 --> 00:40:54.139 And I guess just to to recap, NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 fa2342f9-95cc-4eed-9972-45cfda780409 00:40:54.140 --> 00:40:56.093 we we do have a budget of 9 billion, NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 e1da9457-2757-4dd8-94ee-e46e70dfa48b 00:40:56.100 --> 00:40:57.565 a deficit of $9 billion NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 6218889e-4dcd-4271-99e8-c77630844c3c 00:40:57.565 --> 00:40:58.737 coming into next year. NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 a0336acf-9690-48bc-90e7-041fd8b2a881 00:40:58.740 --> 00:41:02.540 The cumulative $36 billion deficit NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 99f3b4c8-3142-4ef2-9530-03b3be48c916 00:41:02.540 --> 00:41:05.214 related to a decline in tax receipts, NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 4b22dd86-135d-4f86-9742-dc0fb64a813e 00:41:05.220 --> 00:41:07.351 a loss of federal aid, increased NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 1803fc24-563e-4813-b6e1-6c2a5359824c 00:41:07.351 --> 00:41:10.297 spending on school aid and Medicaid. NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 67257a10-b004-4a3a-9342-485ce1aa4431 00:41:10.300 --> 00:41:12.900 And in each, in a recent budget letter, NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 8d0faff8-33bd-47c5-a1a0-b414f50753e1 00:41:12.900 --> 00:41:14.734 a call letter to my state agencies, NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 39a5a086-2245-4694-9138-2cc4bb1a634a 00:41:14.740 --> 00:41:17.190 we asked every state agency to scrutinize NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 ec241df2-292d-46d7-a50e-ea0cab4d9b1f 00:41:17.190 --> 00:41:19.569 their their current operating expenditures NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 d7d3cec0-1339-4ad8-99de-b4c65f6a5c14 00:41:19.570 --> 00:41:21.607 to seek efficiency so that we can NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 60840dfd-e5cd-4f03-a867-0085eb9edff6 00:41:21.607 --> 00:41:23.684 mitigate the need for more difficult NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 a6490f9b-0506-43a5-a04a-742a3dfbbf82 00:41:23.684 --> 00:41:25.970 decisions coming into next year's budget. NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 47c8f0e1-deae-4ade-9bc7-b61583021fd1 00:41:25.970 --> 00:41:28.553 I asked the agency budget request be NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 8fea04a7-bdc7-4b54-a165-ef628c57c87c 00:41:28.553 --> 00:41:30.643 executive agency budget request be no NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 fdac9cbe-4dcf-4272-99f6-73ad7a03d238 00:41:30.643 --> 00:41:34.810 greater than the the amounts in 2024. NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 35af3643-ffef-4aa9-8f6e-532ce74726a4 00:41:34.810 --> 00:41:36.651 And I just reiterated this call to NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 221990b3-ada5-4bbb-9d4f-ac9430fd3381 00:41:36.651 --> 00:41:38.850 every one of the agency commissioners NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 3cf0cc38-fdf1-45df-8e40-8235a32ad5fb 00:41:38.850 --> 00:41:40.964 2 weeks ago at a cabinet meeting NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 54477dae-4636-465e-817b-071001f62499 00:41:40.964 --> 00:41:42.969 held by committee by Governor Hoko. NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 9b37ce4e-b1d4-43c4-9cad-9a1dd007a24c 00:41:42.970 --> 00:41:45.386 So I expressed to my colleagues that this NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 0e6cc5dd-7846-4f8e-a776-6531c856b860 00:41:45.386 --> 00:41:47.567 all requires you know fiscal management, NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 e3431962-7fda-4b6e-abd6-876b705dfd9a 00:41:47.570 --> 00:41:48.440 fiscal prudence, NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 2f3ec812-a1ea-4f73-87a8-41afe8f40fe6 00:41:48.440 --> 00:41:50.180 but it also inquires, NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 12fb68d5-5da2-4d04-af14-9486ea334d6c 00:41:50.180 --> 00:41:52.228 it requires engagement and NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 1e785adb-8531-4330-8cad-4cc3de7d213f 00:41:52.228 --> 00:41:53.908 partnership and that's my call, NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 21d1d0fd-7e82-4238-a860-7cad9725550c 00:41:53.908 --> 00:41:55.660 my call to the state agencies NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 ba4fcf3d-a2c8-49d5-af1c-dccb6411a157 00:41:55.722 --> 00:41:57.181 to call before you today. NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 5c04f459-37f2-4022-8060-412e34989742 00:41:57.181 --> 00:41:59.980 So I just thank you very much for, NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 7c53d636-a9c8-44ac-ac23-4bfdef82f9b7 00:41:59.980 --> 00:42:01.744 for giving us the opportunity to shine NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 b7af3fee-6f8e-4b96-b244-e649e59bbcd4 00:42:01.744 --> 00:42:03.804 a little bit of a light on on where we NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 8b895483-0bdf-48f0-83fb-18873a570ba3 00:42:03.804 --> 00:42:05.702 stand as a state and what our pressures NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 6d1ca0f9-d713-4cb6-93ae-2b51dd744798 00:42:05.702 --> 00:42:08.151 are coming into the next handful of years. NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 d9e7f5e0-c160-490f-b3df-1034221b2d07 00:42:08.151 --> 00:42:11.190 And obviously we're here as well to help in NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 62e8ebc2-1bc2-486b-b841-141d14dc4af6 00:42:11.190 --> 00:42:13.760 any to answer any questions you may have. NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 a8056d50-cb25-44e0-b366-c2212b673262 00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:14.260 Thank, NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 ccde405d-4fa6-451e-9a88-1f4589008bef 00:42:14.260 --> 00:42:14.760 thank. NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 a0cce62e-b82e-4391-9df0-aff8d4b9a1f6 00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:16.260 Thank you Commissioner. NOTE Confidence: 0.928836 e81d6953-d9cc-4169-9113-5d1b065d12a3 00:42:16.260 --> 00:42:17.260 Are there any questions, NOTE Confidence: 0.9356315 4a675e2c-dfe8-4bc2-9eb6-5362c27ef0c6 00:42:20.860 --> 00:42:22.414 Miss Egan was first and then Mr. NOTE Confidence: 0.9356315 c52b38c3-794f-45ee-a803-febc34ba404d 00:42:22.420 --> 00:42:23.620 White. Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.9356315 012f4acd-bbc0-443e-9979-c5b699baecd7 00:42:23.620 --> 00:42:26.022 Thank you Director for your presentation. NOTE Confidence: 0.9356315 6e21a62f-1d47-42ee-b3c8-2caa5f54b083 00:42:26.022 --> 00:42:28.434 I'm just a quick question just NOTE Confidence: 0.9356315 09850647-a93f-4c9e-b036-bb5edc52eadd 00:42:28.434 --> 00:42:30.220 state employees in general, NOTE Confidence: 0.9356315 6dfe91dc-9dda-4ce8-ae5b-927046972780 00:42:30.220 --> 00:42:32.936 do they have a scheduled pay raise NOTE Confidence: 0.9356315 58554ce8-7567-4d64-9839-29499d49fc1e 00:42:32.936 --> 00:42:35.200 for next year either the they do, NOTE Confidence: 0.9356315 8ddea5be-a8db-472f-be5e-f1dafc54288a 00:42:35.200 --> 00:42:36.300 it depends on which NOTE Confidence: 0.9356315 1a253f74-c128-447d-8ab4-f039c76255f5 00:42:36.300 --> 00:42:37.460 bargaining unit you are in, NOTE Confidence: 0.9356315 2a3821ed-473a-491d-bc1c-eb4c444fb868 00:42:37.460 --> 00:42:39.140 but it generally is in the NOTE Confidence: 0.9356315 65fdf3fb-9447-4ce9-b8e9-709850e094c6 00:42:39.140 --> 00:42:40.804 neighborhood of that 2% range NOTE Confidence: 0.9356315 a83bc850-5692-44af-b180-11c4ae3ad4f1 00:42:40.804 --> 00:42:43.524 that that the Chief Administrative NOTE Confidence: 0.9356315 3ccebe0d-1de6-4125-bc23-f2fdaa2fb961 00:42:43.524 --> 00:42:45.700 Judge had indicated previously. NOTE Confidence: 0.9356315 c4a258ef-b58c-44a6-8783-fb18f7a09edb 00:42:45.700 --> 00:42:49.170 Thank you. Mr. Weinstein. NOTE Confidence: 0.9356315 7a5803ef-1d0e-4179-91e2-33fc1ed31d08 00:42:49.170 --> 00:42:53.826 Yeah Director just to with NOTE Confidence: 0.9356315 1ba32a13-6ed6-4a89-a2d5-c5d212d85c83 00:42:53.826 --> 00:42:54.714 Commissioner Egan's question. NOTE Confidence: 0.9356315 89ac6121-94bc-4020-a79a-25944ea24517 00:42:54.714 --> 00:42:56.798 How do you know how many employees NOTE Confidence: 0.9356315 b7a6b5e6-873b-4b8e-abc7-e8dc00307a4b 00:42:56.798 --> 00:42:58.806 there are in the state of New York, NOTE Confidence: 0.9296761 076a70c9-3930-48ff-be89-ec421c770d01 00:43:00.970 --> 00:43:04.510 NY state employee about 120,120 NOTE Confidence: 0.9296761 974dc9ad-fcf6-4138-a3ea-ca380d10ecdd 00:43:04.510 --> 00:43:09.436 thousand and and what what's that NOTE Confidence: 0.9296761 0d52b592-8be7-485c-8e81-b5a743ca58cf 00:43:09.436 --> 00:43:14.074 cost if you know to the to the NOTE Confidence: 0.9296761 e8517616-7721-4dce-851c-cd935075d956 00:43:14.074 --> 00:43:17.259 state our personal service budget NOTE Confidence: 0.9346797 0b0ca023-3cd9-4f41-9f95-982a966e11fa 00:43:19.580 --> 00:43:20.936 you think it's approximately 30 billion. NOTE Confidence: 0.9346797 b229599c-c8f5-4036-a1b4-78017d2bc33e 00:43:20.940 --> 00:43:22.740 We'll put some precision on that for the, NOTE Confidence: 0.9346797 9c164d9c-ee13-4461-8ae7-ac4157beb3df 00:43:22.740 --> 00:43:27.284 for the board 30 billion and and they'll NOTE Confidence: 0.9346797 95e76dfc-6f47-4cf3-b469-a08ba3caf16c 00:43:27.284 --> 00:43:30.960 be getting a 2% raise next year, NOTE Confidence: 0.9346797 71ca2943-9e91-4443-ae89-e2572289f843 00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:33.180 right, give or take. NOTE Confidence: 0.9346797 406ea44c-b5bf-4061-98c6-abf37c5b4e3a 00:43:33.180 --> 00:43:35.260 Yes, that's you'll have to help me with my, NOTE Confidence: 0.9346797 d7723b95-1085-4980-9ad5-2198bd5efcc7 00:43:35.260 --> 00:43:37.416 my math was never my best subject, NOTE Confidence: 0.9346797 bd04709f-36be-4f85-99e0-3b4fb58b5b99 00:43:37.420 --> 00:43:40.900 but that means you're talking about NOTE Confidence: 0.9346797 6bfe00a8-35fc-4fae-ad8b-4ae7d5949344 00:43:40.900 --> 00:43:44.548 approximately $600 million coming out NOTE Confidence: 0.9346797 6a7119f3-ca8b-436f-ab67-12f712900a77 00:43:44.548 --> 00:43:49.620 of the budget for them as opposed to the NOTE Confidence: 0.9346797 c688a14a-2a4a-4936-9518-4586808002bc 00:43:49.620 --> 00:43:53.540 $34 million we heard from Judge Zias, NOTE Confidence: 0.9346797 5233a2de-c1ff-454c-90c2-ea83e5e29408 00:43:53.540 --> 00:43:54.748 correct, which we've been. NOTE Confidence: 0.9346797 99eca718-8057-4da7-8d97-e81bd9b2f787 00:43:54.748 --> 00:43:56.258 We've budgeted for the state, NOTE Confidence: 0.9346797 e216ca81-cf88-4329-b5e9-beb6789e7f17 00:43:56.260 --> 00:43:57.700 for the state employees. NOTE Confidence: 0.9346797 ede37512-3da3-4027-835d-3b00f61685f1 00:43:57.700 --> 00:43:59.140 Yes, we have not budgeted for, NOTE Confidence: 0.9346797 4d19d3db-c2da-4ded-b7ab-2930d0f5ddd9 00:43:59.140 --> 00:44:00.596 for the judiciary yet. NOTE Confidence: 0.9346797 f3cec5b8-8c12-4e15-b530-0b0f24ba0583 00:44:00.596 --> 00:44:03.485 And I know that you don't make policy, NOTE Confidence: 0.9346797 e2abe7e7-a32e-4ed7-84ac-f58a1f5f7dda 00:44:03.485 --> 00:44:06.357 but are you aware of any executive NOTE Confidence: 0.9346797 abf586d8-7105-407f-aeb4-75828ae70473 00:44:06.357 --> 00:44:10.042 or legislative branch indicating to NOTE Confidence: 0.9346797 6e60529b-0231-4d37-b2f8-09e46da59b40 00:44:10.042 --> 00:44:12.620 the public employees in New York, NOTE Confidence: 0.9346797 4ebf6e26-6ce8-46a8-9c9e-a265f916f895 00:44:12.620 --> 00:44:15.098 all of whom were I think terrific NOTE Confidence: 0.9346797 db1bcfbd-6a7d-4d0f-8c5e-c49cf64158ea 00:44:15.098 --> 00:44:16.929 and are deserving of raises, NOTE Confidence: 0.9346797 5e7a21a9-62a0-4767-a145-718205808854 00:44:16.930 --> 00:44:19.562 being told that they will not get NOTE Confidence: 0.9346797 0bf7e145-6dc6-430c-930b-0e4d3cc8f3f9 00:44:19.562 --> 00:44:22.370 any raise for the next four years. NOTE Confidence: 0.9346797 acc92f53-73f0-4c39-8740-0e7ac54feb17 00:44:22.370 --> 00:44:23.276 That is not, NOTE Confidence: 0.9346797 a50e0900-8512-40b9-b7ca-187bd66f075a 00:44:23.276 --> 00:44:25.088 that has not been communicated by NOTE Confidence: 0.9346797 22a051f1-cdb5-407f-8c67-f9ac021fe8d0 00:44:25.088 --> 00:44:26.822 by anybody on the executive branch. NOTE Confidence: 0.9346797 6a3943a3-b978-492c-8112-008b4014a519 00:44:26.822 --> 00:44:31.010 All right. Thank you, Commissioner Blake. NOTE Confidence: 0.9346797 260258ad-3d3f-4771-b33d-ef9373dd3564 00:44:31.010 --> 00:44:32.048 Hi. Good morning. NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 6020c2aa-4e68-48d6-ad1d-120270f8fc2d 00:44:34.890 --> 00:44:36.706 Let me ask you a question and really NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 dcbceaa1-a5d9-4cf7-b91f-5774af8a6029 00:44:36.706 --> 00:44:38.329 a follow up to Judge Weinstein. NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 f8538480-4fc8-4134-a0f1-6628fc3b28b8 00:44:38.330 --> 00:44:42.078 So are there any other would would you, NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 4fdd88f8-32ff-4d07-ba5f-961ed5a0199f 00:44:42.078 --> 00:44:44.495 would you agree with me that the NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 19432d55-3756-42bb-b2e2-e2e29d58557b 00:44:44.495 --> 00:44:46.840 judiciary in the justice system is an NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 3144f9c2-46d2-46ac-b381-c21f82bce0b6 00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:48.740 essential service of the state of New NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 02d221d0-74ff-4b5a-bfdd-4d8ffeb085a0 00:44:48.740 --> 00:44:50.921 York to the people of the state of New NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 d81226c9-d234-4aa0-b9ba-8e0db45fa016 00:44:50.921 --> 00:44:52.720 York as enumerated in the Constitution? NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 d4161106-3f0d-4d6c-a365-b2f5433f4f39 00:44:52.720 --> 00:44:56.383 Absolutely, And is a sort of along the NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 a928e8a3-318c-4abc-9fd8-0fe1338fe9eb 00:44:56.383 --> 00:44:59.198 lines of what Judge Weinstein asked you. NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 99e5d191-55b7-4633-b805-32d4b147edd5 00:44:59.200 --> 00:45:02.665 Is there any other class of government NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 3ead8098-64e2-4a2b-a4d6-bbb4b3289a54 00:45:02.665 --> 00:45:05.407 employees that our state asks to NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 a2a830b4-e774-4266-b18a-188112950f58 00:45:05.407 --> 00:45:08.068 wait every four years or eight years NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 e79f9f6a-a76c-41ad-b717-369f62940feb 00:45:08.068 --> 00:45:10.867 and in the past it was 11 years NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 d9d3209e-182a-441b-b9f5-60d559c04635 00:45:10.870 --> 00:45:13.334 to get a raise while they're doing NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 b8657413-bb65-463f-8505-78dad2935285 00:45:13.334 --> 00:45:15.189 their essential service to New York. NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 ebf1cf29-41d0-46f1-8db4-af53fa63b2ca 00:45:15.190 --> 00:45:17.640 Is there any other class of employees NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 71901ab3-3ea6-45e3-bb35-e0b94eb56e37 00:45:17.640 --> 00:45:20.517 that you know that works for our state NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 c094c246-7244-416c-84ad-e333dbdc3f04 00:45:20.517 --> 00:45:23.169 that has had that happened to them in NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 ac56ec97-0c0e-4c4a-b1b6-896a58f20b3f 00:45:23.169 --> 00:45:25.718 the past 20 years beyond statewide NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 d0c382d2-1062-4232-be0c-43300d8565ed 00:45:25.718 --> 00:45:28.614 elected officials legislators and NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 7df3cf3a-e971-4b6d-a78c-8b6ebb634ee0 00:45:28.614 --> 00:45:31.356 executive branch commissioners there's NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 3582902d-014c-4b09-af22-7b2aff4a895c 00:45:31.356 --> 00:45:35.444 no there's there's no other limit on NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 6eaa6ed3-62d4-4517-a5ca-b39726f84fa5 00:45:35.444 --> 00:45:39.930 on other state actors abilities to to NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 88099269-2737-4951-8c51-caac1916807e 00:45:39.930 --> 00:45:42.810 receive increases beyond negotiated NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 96a2fc8e-81cb-47c4-ab5b-761504985949 00:45:42.810 --> 00:45:46.135 salary agreements And and so the numbers NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 153d1c3c-e370-4470-ab09-ad1da64528eb 00:45:46.135 --> 00:45:48.914 that Judge Zayas was talking about and NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 e1abce47-9b43-4f35-beba-1968d553f4aa 00:45:48.914 --> 00:45:51.356 I was listening carefully and looking NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 8ee7ee08-343e-4f35-97e2-c97f1b26deb7 00:45:51.356 --> 00:45:54.982 at your charts it's about $34 million. NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 f65904f6-564a-48a3-8b97-a5d73d1cbd68 00:45:54.982 --> 00:45:58.676 It wouldn't seem if I could and math NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 5434522e-13ff-42d4-b80f-5c3b9ebeeeef 00:45:58.676 --> 00:46:01.177 is not my strongest point either to NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 89816867-cbb6-4b69-9485-62be84bbdbd7 00:46:01.177 --> 00:46:03.473 have the an impact on the state's NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 af051574-349f-4ae7-b766-99ce827fa6a9 00:46:03.473 --> 00:46:05.943 budget as much as just the 2% salary NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 de3bc6a3-d3b5-4d7b-b06f-0d8c718bc45f 00:46:05.943 --> 00:46:08.241 increase that the other state employees NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 0c9e48d5-8c47-4437-a267-1b6018478829 00:46:08.241 --> 00:46:10.079 will be getting next year. NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 13d235ba-2d2c-44d8-b861-3af34801e89e 00:46:10.080 --> 00:46:13.560 Would that be a fair statement? NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 22d13035-73d3-4198-b9c9-d68ba0fbb6ee 00:46:13.560 --> 00:46:13.793 Well, NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 4bcd609c-2fb2-4bb1-bf29-5ff844ca68b1 00:46:13.793 --> 00:46:15.191 I think that you know budgets NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 fa68444d-0fe2-4813-aa1a-9198bcb778d3 00:46:15.191 --> 00:46:16.479 are a series of choices. NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 2b87ad31-32e4-42da-8e11-89a9611168c9 00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:18.455 It's a series of identifying NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 6b512f62-af88-488b-bdf9-f70779a7d727 00:46:18.455 --> 00:46:19.640 where priorities are. NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 426d6d45-7204-4941-b7f4-1fba51bcd764 00:46:19.640 --> 00:46:23.395 I know that we're here today is a this NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 a8bfc594-d085-43a2-9825-5fba1171e359 00:46:23.395 --> 00:46:26.160 review is a one that takes precedence. NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 26d62810-d816-45b8-be70-1ce42570c16d 00:46:26.160 --> 00:46:28.320 We understand where the we want, NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 22d224a8-3df9-4a6f-9dd5-927adf189fb8 00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:30.493 we know the board is going to take NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 b48e65ba-a07d-4e94-a504-9a00ebe10c52 00:46:30.493 --> 00:46:32.491 a the Commission's going to take NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 a278e380-1750-443e-a2b4-0e76b2036a34 00:46:32.491 --> 00:46:34.120 a keen eye to that. NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 c8ad9540-a6eb-4515-aa12-1c8aa2c5945c 00:46:34.120 --> 00:46:35.624 We we want to provide the data we NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 705683ea-ff5a-4869-9b76-c7da1a46824d 00:46:35.624 --> 00:46:37.339 did just to provide you a bit of a NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 960dd03a-7626-4dec-a4e6-bc68bfee3f49 00:46:37.339 --> 00:46:39.048 context so that you know what just NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 99a66d29-5c8a-46f8-9182-a7815b15df3c 00:46:39.048 --> 00:46:40.160 the ordinary everyday expenditures NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 c01001a0-25f2-4b8b-804a-79e70f334424 00:46:40.160 --> 00:46:43.120 were for the everyday New Yorkers. NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 e0f68ebb-d93f-42da-b8e2-38c826283628 00:46:43.120 --> 00:46:45.256 I appreciate that. NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 cc92325e-df2c-4ce2-83f1-6b15941dac0e 00:46:45.256 --> 00:46:47.698 But for our duty that we're charged NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 35c3d6b6-54c7-439d-a81b-1926df3d98ee 00:46:47.698 --> 00:46:48.562 by the law, NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 72c7756b-adf0-4142-ad06-5724d80766e6 00:46:48.570 --> 00:46:51.234 which is to take into consideration NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 a6ddc708-8362-4ab5-aefa-ccf0ae0b25e5 00:46:51.234 --> 00:46:52.566 the state's budget. NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 9dce357d-611b-421a-afaf-9ccb597700ce 00:46:52.570 --> 00:46:55.412 I think it's important for us to NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 48bf0474-754a-4fd8-93cc-4a040c46b975 00:46:55.412 --> 00:46:58.009 understand after all the presentation, NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 4a95f831-6335-4160-9cc7-64af270b3634 00:46:58.010 --> 00:47:00.930 the real impact, if any, NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 d84dd894-8ec6-45a3-a9d6-3e060afa7f53 00:47:00.930 --> 00:47:03.420 on the state's budget by giving NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 04b52c57-4ba3-4595-82eb-4d3444a08b4d 00:47:03.420 --> 00:47:05.430 the judiciary a raise that they NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 fd5041bb-647e-4e30-a79f-014d0ea788cf 00:47:05.430 --> 00:47:07.570 haven't gotten in quite a long time. NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 cfbbca1e-62e2-4d6d-a200-d2792da4bbd5 00:47:07.570 --> 00:47:09.348 Because the numbers seem to be so NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 cc12af75-0362-4cff-a8f8-10746fdcf21a 00:47:09.348 --> 00:47:10.978 small compared to the giant numbers NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 fe0268bc-f748-430f-8978-b42b22b6cc66 00:47:10.978 --> 00:47:12.604 that you were presenting to us. NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 b4f8af50-ad8b-44e1-8990-189cccb99f8a 00:47:12.610 --> 00:47:14.899 And especially in light of what Judge NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 dfeefffd-9efd-4704-9024-b7f674a2d2c4 00:47:14.899 --> 00:47:16.774 Weinstein and you just spoke about NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 8d685009-a2c6-4e17-8496-63cb4b8c01db 00:47:16.774 --> 00:47:19.466 that the 2% raise the state workers NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 15ce823f-6a6b-4962-afcc-666b979c0b9a 00:47:19.466 --> 00:47:23.510 that they're going to get is $600 million. NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 2201c40d-20b3-4679-8e58-7e27b3aa30fe 00:47:23.510 --> 00:47:25.624 So I'm trying to put into context, NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 60d83a58-bcf7-4cd6-b079-5b070a6d84b5 00:47:25.630 --> 00:47:28.850 as we're charged to do, how that number, NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 1f85c561-5c07-411d-bb39-d93b4fb326c4 00:47:28.850 --> 00:47:31.350 the 34 million would be. NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 6a571e98-6586-45c7-82d8-3bcf7e590f29 00:47:31.350 --> 00:47:33.288 How's it affects the state's budget NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 6be29d3e-acae-44c0-90c0-dac0c32069de 00:47:33.288 --> 00:47:35.230 and other people in the state? NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 0e00922e-c56c-4672-84c9-8c3d523129e2 00:47:35.230 --> 00:47:38.226 And well, math isn't my strong point. NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 d434805b-26ef-4701-884d-d06dac368e02 00:47:38.230 --> 00:47:39.790 I don't see a real effect. NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 c0cb46ca-19e8-44c2-829e-8dd5c6252922 00:47:39.790 --> 00:47:43.070 So I'm asking you as the budget people, NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 0f4c5223-ce85-4f2a-ba76-0e821005564f 00:47:43.070 --> 00:47:44.505 is there a real effect on that NOTE Confidence: 0.9258067 7f37ea2b-f541-4d55-aab3-166de0fdf943 00:47:44.505 --> 00:47:45.120 number in the NOTE Confidence: 0.9251247 fcd3f0ba-cacb-405b-a4ac-4281226af1f5 00:47:45.170 --> 00:47:45.870 state's budget? NOTE Confidence: 0.9251247 a1e73c29-8c97-4538-9e1f-749e6ce684e9 00:47:48.470 --> 00:47:49.150 A question NOTE Confidence: 0.91538906 b76f9c78-ab05-490c-af83-88b4da6e17d3 00:47:51.410 --> 00:47:54.570 let him respond Robert Okay go ahead NOTE Confidence: 0.91538906 7604b6f7-a4a4-4e95-95f8-b80b88c3b877 00:47:54.570 --> 00:47:56.170 you can respond budget director. NOTE Confidence: 0.91538906 56f59e9a-52b7-4166-9517-605f739f75be 00:47:58.330 --> 00:48:00.337 To be assured it is a small number in NOTE Confidence: 0.91538906 d19910e3-5963-4b34-a6c2-dbee3fc9a147 00:48:00.337 --> 00:48:02.687 in the grand scheme of the state budget. NOTE Confidence: 0.91538906 56d97617-9d05-469a-87b5-b2e99d890431 00:48:02.690 --> 00:48:05.058 I I just think that sometimes when we NOTE Confidence: 0.91538906 ee31304d-7490-4109-a95e-9cc6a28c468f 00:48:05.058 --> 00:48:07.465 when we look at salary increases we NOTE Confidence: 0.91538906 85a36622-0d47-4911-94ac-e72361b9c83c 00:48:07.465 --> 00:48:09.802 do try to without fortune or favor NOTE Confidence: 0.91538906 f22eb904-3c78-46a0-9cb2-30d544bfcb01 00:48:09.802 --> 00:48:12.376 look at who are the level of salary NOTE Confidence: 0.91538906 b753bd3d-403c-4df2-9188-58225668d68d 00:48:12.376 --> 00:48:14.884 that's earned and and and we have to NOTE Confidence: 0.91538906 04f18766-f635-4669-8642-f26e07215210 00:48:14.884 --> 00:48:16.995 you know we have to appreciate that NOTE Confidence: 0.91538906 c2033083-e7eb-48d5-8fb2-7224dc98e313 00:48:16.995 --> 00:48:19.241 there's a whole that of that 600 NOTE Confidence: 0.91538906 826eef64-8ede-402e-ad94-f8e9d5ac3406 00:48:19.241 --> 00:48:21.210 million or so that's 130,000 employees NOTE Confidence: 0.91538906 fd7e2893-1fca-4823-b368-864f4787e9d3 00:48:21.210 --> 00:48:23.085 that make substantially less than NOTE Confidence: 0.91538906 600f2e02-a659-49a1-94ba-fc90b8469346 00:48:23.085 --> 00:48:25.059 than members of the judiciary. NOTE Confidence: 0.91538906 c7bf93bd-47a4-4cd7-826b-a1dc51baf34b 00:48:25.060 --> 00:48:26.748 So that I think it's just the prison NOTE Confidence: 0.91538906 5933dec5-aac9-45cc-acdc-a8b5a80c7649 00:48:26.748 --> 00:48:29.260 to view it through is more important. NOTE Confidence: 0.91538906 12b2a167-1b0d-48a9-88f6-2e152e47327d 00:48:29.260 --> 00:48:31.180 Thank you. Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.91538906 8ba39a88-8e11-43f2-9fe2-857782a673ab 00:48:31.180 --> 00:48:32.940 Commissioner Covener was next. NOTE Confidence: 0.91538906 c3227e8f-1033-4da1-a78a-88d56cb5581f 00:48:32.940 --> 00:48:34.412 And then Commissioner Magner. NOTE Confidence: 0.91538906 cceb2bb4-7a4e-474d-8fc8-e0e7c91ae4f3 00:48:34.412 --> 00:48:36.660 Sure. Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.91538906 5cc99f72-7bbf-4b27-aee9-134e5bd781f3 00:48:36.660 --> 00:48:38.046 Yes. Thank you, NOTE Confidence: 0.91538906 98813c5f-f9c5-4950-8c74-fcb0a10349d7 00:48:38.046 --> 00:48:39.894 Director Washington for that NOTE Confidence: 0.91538906 75b0a8fa-8674-47a8-8fdf-11eedb4551d1 00:48:39.894 --> 00:48:40.818 impressive presentation. NOTE Confidence: 0.946291762 c77004e7-dd63-4588-9cfe-eefb29d710ab 00:48:42.910 --> 00:48:45.990 We just heard judge Science, NOTE Confidence: 0.946291762 d19269af-15c8-452f-822b-e3b239acb500 00:48:45.990 --> 00:48:49.890 Chief Administrative Judge request or NOTE Confidence: 0.946291762 ec7637b0-cc0e-4dc0-ac8f-36f2503cdf1e 00:48:49.890 --> 00:48:55.025 propose A to reach federal parity which NOTE Confidence: 0.946291762 cab3f46b-a16a-42eb-bf46-6be6724a3a0c 00:48:55.025 --> 00:48:58.185 would be at a level of roughly 10%, NOTE Confidence: 0.946291762 94051467-5ba6-4d2c-bdc2-5bda9aa45bb2 00:48:58.190 --> 00:49:01.748 which would be roughly 2 1/2% NOTE Confidence: 0.946291762 06828011-2ed1-45a0-8e88-0a987b579037 00:49:01.750 --> 00:49:04.828 for each of the four years, NOTE Confidence: 0.946291762 f9e01b79-973b-4372-85e8-22e0b5225d51 00:49:04.830 --> 00:49:07.710 which it sounds like is just NOTE Confidence: 0.946291762 be101991-3b08-412a-8f86-0ea107934ba2 00:49:07.710 --> 00:49:10.742 slightly over the over 2% that NOTE Confidence: 0.946291762 e0da1883-4b98-4f14-875e-fe0811714007 00:49:10.742 --> 00:49:13.237 the slate state employees are NOTE Confidence: 0.946291762 3e90f99e-97e2-49c1-8285-b01f6315887e 00:49:13.237 --> 00:49:15.739 will receive in the next year. NOTE Confidence: 0.946291762 73c3af29-1d16-4028-849e-e78b2df87686 00:49:15.740 --> 00:49:19.590 But of course they're they can receive NOTE Confidence: 0.946291762 c3ca0a53-582d-4750-85ff-791aafdd1aea 00:49:19.590 --> 00:49:23.284 changes at once every year while NOTE Confidence: 0.946291762 f48701de-716d-4703-8379-f29641f49aa7 00:49:23.284 --> 00:49:27.084 the judges are sort of locked up, NOTE Confidence: 0.946291762 3242ba8d-0844-4b65-8b66-0e20311ca54b 00:49:27.084 --> 00:49:29.580 say setting aside the COLA issue NOTE Confidence: 0.946291762 739e3d04-c22f-4459-8ffb-7168dd154f41 00:49:29.580 --> 00:49:32.100 or four years. NOTE Confidence: 0.946291762 f3d54b1f-c3bf-415c-aecc-513a320f4366 00:49:32.100 --> 00:49:36.368 And by understating the very modest NOTE Confidence: 0.946291762 a22d6ab0-32f8-4349-9077-21f814fbe9a9 00:49:36.368 --> 00:49:38.584 difference between judge sizes NOTE Confidence: 0.946291762 bffac793-484e-4944-b614-0a128533b868 00:49:38.584 --> 00:49:41.438 proposal and what state employees NOTE Confidence: 0.946291762 2e49aae3-8368-4614-8854-4bf547b9f731 00:49:41.438 --> 00:49:44.168 are already scheduled to get. NOTE Confidence: 0.927863 03cbb0ad-eae3-46bd-a922-15f864e2d216 00:49:47.570 --> 00:49:48.622 You know, I can't, NOTE Confidence: 0.927863 b3ce3c2d-07c1-49bf-bb98-44e2b2220035 00:49:48.622 --> 00:49:50.490 I can't necessarily quibble with the chief NOTE Confidence: 0.927863 069abbd7-f883-42cc-82ff-20136306c0ea 00:49:50.490 --> 00:49:53.050 administrative judge has put forward. NOTE Confidence: 0.927863 a562bc72-3f5c-4cbb-abab-772945d90923 00:49:53.050 --> 00:49:55.507 I'll just say that in the last NOTE Confidence: 0.927863 3d6dacbb-f890-43f9-a2c4-eba7edc127f1 00:49:55.507 --> 00:49:57.365 10 years compensation for the NOTE Confidence: 0.927863 ab5012d5-5253-476a-96dc-2f35d4e65e9d 00:49:57.365 --> 00:49:59.290 state workforce has been modest, NOTE Confidence: 0.927863 fcd03e84-2bbd-4107-b74b-fdfb023718f2 00:49:59.290 --> 00:50:02.080 I think in 10 in the previous ten years. NOTE Confidence: 0.927863 169a0d27-7723-4462-be4d-19b9d2d53f05 00:50:02.080 --> 00:50:04.120 The state workforce is everyday employees, NOTE Confidence: 0.927863 9bafa7ff-6d88-4cd1-85ef-022a724cd858 00:50:04.120 --> 00:50:06.072 many of which are employed by OCA. NOTE Confidence: 0.927863 c91f757a-2719-43de-9c96-a5fc76c99ef6 00:50:06.072 --> 00:50:08.256 As you know their salaries have increased NOTE Confidence: 0.927863 5e8f4a7c-6e6d-4835-9f9a-6343a7a685f7 00:50:08.256 --> 00:50:12.640 by approximately 23% and and and NOTE Confidence: 0.927863 4bb6559e-1994-455b-9ea4-f73e44384336 00:50:12.640 --> 00:50:15.004 compensation for the judges during the NOTE Confidence: 0.927863 b13af642-05ec-4dfa-b245-c10edc0dc544 00:50:15.004 --> 00:50:17.454 same period has increased by over 54%. NOTE Confidence: 0.927863 b512b786-50cf-426d-811b-6fb846cf444a 00:50:17.454 --> 00:50:20.446 So again, it's just the prison that you NOTE Confidence: 0.927863 34ec2bde-c268-4576-a2c0-660a803161fd 00:50:20.446 --> 00:50:24.278 went through in the grand scheme of things, NOTE Confidence: 0.927863 51958501-1c76-47f9-86f1-37346a22924b 00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:27.984 which appoints will take which years NOTE Confidence: 0.927863 83edd625-f9b9-4bbc-857d-08ed9cbf49e4 00:50:27.984 --> 00:50:30.416 were those? Director Washington? NOTE Confidence: 0.927863 860cd62f-6407-4638-a4d5-273fc3940edf 00:50:30.416 --> 00:50:34.270 It was from years 2014 through 2024. NOTE Confidence: 0.927863 9bb8a6ec-8470-40a7-bfed-175366c13ac9 00:50:34.270 --> 00:50:37.800 But I I I don't think you included NOTE Confidence: 0.927863 f71ad88f-e577-451f-b4a6-eacf67fb9858 00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:41.580 the full period of 11 years in NOTE Confidence: 0.927863 e2049fa6-98c3-4fe2-8ab6-3209392d8b3b 00:50:41.580 --> 00:50:43.880 which there was no raise, NOTE Confidence: 0.927863 45d11ef9-5716-49af-bf2a-60ccaea91722 00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:47.264 but you did include the period of the catch NOTE Confidence: 0.927863 8ff251ee-683c-434c-b610-b03dfddaa1e7 00:50:47.264 --> 00:50:50.760 up after the new legislation was passed, NOTE Confidence: 0.927863 57eba439-bcbc-4e8d-8bb4-5c41e7cf270a 00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:51.864 Am I correct? NOTE Confidence: 0.927863 d346e49e-c4b0-486b-909c-7f65f28f0a81 00:50:51.864 --> 00:50:52.600 That's correct. NOTE Confidence: 0.93467134 961c4619-80c6-4d53-bcab-4bc71269afd4 00:50:58.000 --> 00:50:59.008 Thank you, Commissioner. NOTE Confidence: 0.93467134 03236104-4fa5-44cd-b9aa-b593f7de1300 00:50:59.008 --> 00:50:59.680 Commissioner Meghan. NOTE Confidence: 0.9416391 6616c17b-2624-46c7-9c86-7299cae34070 00:51:01.760 --> 00:51:04.470 Sorry, Blake, I think a NOTE Confidence: 0.9416391 77222457-61b3-43b4-a25e-66f8fd9dd14e 00:51:04.470 --> 00:51:06.638 point for context though NOTE Confidence: 0.9416391 905cebe0-2a50-4c63-b74c-1d3f123baf7f 00:51:10.120 --> 00:51:11.185 relatively small numbers, NOTE Confidence: 0.9416391 27051401-ea25-4d4d-bbd0-929672e05759 00:51:11.185 --> 00:51:13.670 I think we'd have to agree that NOTE Confidence: 0.9416391 f4ba0bf6-c7f2-4a64-bd3c-94a7463f9b94 00:51:13.740 --> 00:51:15.912 that's true compared to the numbers NOTE Confidence: 0.9416391 daa631e7-aabd-43c5-bf1d-c2caea457117 00:51:15.912 --> 00:51:19.200 that you talked about, Blake. NOTE Confidence: 0.9416391 46c63bc8-6e09-44e4-aa42-da7e73e13e84 00:51:19.200 --> 00:51:21.625 But my recollection is the NOTE Confidence: 0.9416391 f4aec3fe-90a7-4541-88a8-3dffa7ed32b5 00:51:21.625 --> 00:51:25.541 state workforce in 2011. NOTE Confidence: 0.9416391 4d85d278-cefb-42c1-8349-5b0b70cd5eee 00:51:25.541 --> 00:51:31.233 12 was probably more like 150 or 160,000. NOTE Confidence: 0.9416391 3363d7db-02a3-4098-b4e8-ad4f55491be1 00:51:31.233 --> 00:51:34.971 So the idea that the state NOTE Confidence: 0.9416391 eef43c77-a5d3-48e4-810f-960573eb3e90 00:51:34.971 --> 00:51:37.380 only makes adjustments based NOTE Confidence: 0.9416391 53ce16a3-e2c8-401e-85f1-1b7aaf7b688a 00:51:37.380 --> 00:51:41.368 on union negotiated salaries, NOTE Confidence: 0.9416391 cb19cead-5b7d-4116-a3f9-f747b03074f2 00:51:41.370 --> 00:51:43.590 you know it's also significantly reduced NOTE Confidence: 0.9416391 184fbb4c-e6f2-4951-af16-caf34724bd8b 00:51:43.590 --> 00:51:46.927 the size of the workforce over that period. NOTE Confidence: 0.9416391 26d74598-5b41-4c44-b1b2-31e0f8c7ddde 00:51:46.930 --> 00:51:50.538 Is that accurate or that that's, NOTE Confidence: 0.9416391 85964f8b-ea66-4ec5-9932-7101893db448 00:51:50.538 --> 00:51:51.610 that's, that's accurate? Yes. NOTE Confidence: 0.9160665 f67f5322-a6a7-48dc-9219-ff45ef029c41 00:51:58.780 --> 00:52:01.472 There's no other questions. NOTE Confidence: 0.9160665 508d85c8-80e0-4108-a852-f9ac6a0f03ce 00:52:01.472 --> 00:52:03.324 Commissioner Fontaine, Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.9160665 09f6ae9f-b4b8-4c2e-8850-42a804f69740 00:52:03.324 --> 00:52:04.836 I just have one question with NOTE Confidence: 0.9160665 d78a0ad3-7b95-4926-8bf0-102ecc261bde 00:52:04.836 --> 00:52:06.139 respect to the submission. NOTE Confidence: 0.9160665 469a278e-a9f3-4990-9c7a-62c756d3e5af 00:52:06.140 --> 00:52:07.884 I know that you indicated that there was NOTE Confidence: 0.9160665 2b9531ae-5b09-4043-b3ed-4f26d51216db 00:52:07.884 --> 00:52:09.898 a call letter submitted to all agencies. NOTE Confidence: 0.9160665 08911156-2de4-471a-bb60-c25912c5d331 00:52:09.900 --> 00:52:13.176 So in calculating OCA's budget NOTE Confidence: 0.9160665 a3de7dd6-ae65-4ce9-8f13-2cd305077ac2 00:52:13.176 --> 00:52:15.690 would they also be required to NOTE Confidence: 0.9160665 dfb7d86d-5c36-49b0-8cda-0883051adfd7 00:52:15.765 --> 00:52:18.075 demonstrate that this any increase NOTE Confidence: 0.9160665 c9baf27e-68f5-4d46-9920-2001c02d4517 00:52:18.075 --> 00:52:20.385 or proposed increase could be NOTE Confidence: 0.9160665 8688731c-179e-4959-9480-08e868ce4d44 00:52:20.465 --> 00:52:23.460 captured or within their budget as NOTE Confidence: 0.9160665 609c7866-10c5-46d7-870c-4f55fff69f83 00:52:23.460 --> 00:52:26.760 a compared to the overall request. NOTE Confidence: 0.9160665 718daffa-4049-41df-9394-3b29ce653aad 00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:29.413 The call letter was sent to executive NOTE Confidence: 0.9160665 3850eb1e-81a1-4181-bd65-78ea1d00e996 00:52:29.413 --> 00:52:31.480 agencies under executive control and I NOTE Confidence: 0.9160665 1c90d4c2-48b7-414f-aab1-f1553c8946a0 00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:33.240 think that as it relates to the judiciary, NOTE Confidence: 0.9160665 f7145567-9844-4912-8a85-5806000b8fae 00:52:33.240 --> 00:52:34.040 the legislature, NOTE Confidence: 0.9160665 6253d790-4083-422b-81a9-d6ef18de7053 00:52:34.040 --> 00:52:36.836 I think that you know I think we all NOTE Confidence: 0.9160665 901ab604-a274-4303-8b9f-5d522b7bd20d 00:52:36.836 --> 00:52:38.379 need to roll in the same direction NOTE Confidence: 0.9160665 3f133d25-01c1-4671-944d-0305a99cc07d 00:52:38.379 --> 00:52:40.425 at some as we get the budget NOTE Confidence: 0.9160665 c4506ab4-f09d-46da-aec0-17e0e9338b64 00:52:40.425 --> 00:52:42.231 underway so that we're actually being NOTE Confidence: 0.9160665 abba69a6-dc01-4f9d-8627-7ebfd560b374 00:52:42.231 --> 00:52:44.156 mindful of cost in the long term, NOTE Confidence: 0.9160665 1ccf6813-6fc6-4c38-83ef-4e7125b11ca6 00:52:44.160 --> 00:52:48.080 mindful of sustainability in the long term. NOTE Confidence: 0.9160665 10da2a8f-4803-40de-b578-556119415242 00:52:48.080 --> 00:52:51.608 So but would the would OCA also be NOTE Confidence: 0.9160665 e13d2c1e-cb34-486a-84ce-8d8959c6fd5b 00:52:51.608 --> 00:52:53.337 required to demonstrate whether any NOTE Confidence: 0.9160665 0718ab0c-4614-4ba2-a721-4b88c01bee87 00:52:53.337 --> 00:52:55.766 kind of any proposed increase could be NOTE Confidence: 0.9160665 4f3a1c24-4a1b-4cbf-a647-d0f1babda1e6 00:52:55.766 --> 00:52:57.820 absorbed within their proposed budget? NOTE Confidence: 0.93822086 ba3bc558-0de9-44fc-9046-16258dc0668e 00:53:00.340 --> 00:53:01.604 We would hope so. NOTE Confidence: 0.93822086 160a9f13-5675-4789-943e-5739db516636 00:53:01.604 --> 00:53:04.048 I I hesitate to use word required NOTE Confidence: 0.93822086 03926763-4b7d-4412-8be8-d290a4a4daa7 00:53:04.048 --> 00:53:06.234 because we don't we don't oversee NOTE Confidence: 0.93822086 1e6abbd5-1e4b-4065-a080-700d85a6e76a 00:53:06.234 --> 00:53:07.782 them but we would hope that NOTE Confidence: 0.93822086 12698660-8cc8-420f-8b2b-2b70ae99e1bb 00:53:07.782 --> 00:53:09.456 the judiciary would would take NOTE Confidence: 0.93822086 faad5585-211f-4b0a-b294-e70be8b9cfd2 00:53:09.456 --> 00:53:11.151 my call letter to executive NOTE Confidence: 0.93822086 d705d8d1-52d8-4250-960d-f2d7cbc52ddc 00:53:11.151 --> 00:53:13.084 agencies take the lead that the NOTE Confidence: 0.93822086 7f763f01-8a4f-4f66-b96d-560b696a552e 00:53:13.084 --> 00:53:14.312 governor's putting forward and NOTE Confidence: 0.93822086 4f14f0d5-703d-4dd0-ad10-6d9fe9ceeebd 00:53:14.312 --> 00:53:16.978 and and work in harmony with that. NOTE Confidence: 0.9241977 81aecf08-f9d3-4c17-a7df-cb97fb96e856 00:53:19.720 --> 00:53:21.320 I see no other questions. NOTE Confidence: 0.9241977 451c8031-84ff-43a4-b2c4-4bd35192e977 00:53:23.600 --> 00:53:25.712 Mr. Washington, thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.9241977 77114943-158e-4ae6-a491-af5ea44c640e 00:53:25.712 --> 00:53:29.020 You know I recognize that you put NOTE Confidence: 0.9241977 27985a0f-e76b-46fa-98d1-6c5760ade80c 00:53:29.020 --> 00:53:30.670 your presentation together in a NOTE Confidence: 0.9241977 4cbdd2ac-1882-4d09-ac8e-db170a233d3f 00:53:30.670 --> 00:53:33.027 in a truncated period of time and NOTE Confidence: 0.9241977 34df7a4a-2a3d-454f-bca0-9c404641138a 00:53:33.027 --> 00:53:34.720 we appreciate the professionalism NOTE Confidence: 0.9241977 02bcc226-0cf2-4e6d-9cd9-a404c336f9b9 00:53:34.720 --> 00:53:37.142 with which you approached this. NOTE Confidence: 0.9241977 698af92a-1a79-42a4-b5fe-8d0ac2524c37 00:53:37.142 --> 00:53:39.878 And thank you for your time this morning. NOTE Confidence: 0.9241977 146c96ad-925d-49a8-906b-21034b63c970 00:53:39.880 --> 00:53:40.798 Thank you very much on this NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 026298e2-3df6-43e2-940f-3ea3c3371a2c 00:53:46.700 --> 00:53:51.460 two points and back to the hearing live. NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 c5bb4c81-5bde-4adc-b573-a00ab03dc9b3 00:53:53.820 --> 00:53:59.260 My goal is to take a brief break at 10:30, NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 1b56a917-c2ac-4665-8017-6291f24147f5 00:53:59.260 --> 00:54:01.740 just got a lot of old men up here and so NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 ce584daf-641b-4084-a584-165557355e2b 00:54:04.060 --> 00:54:05.408 11:30, I'm sorry, 11:30, NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 38fb50d2-bd78-4ced-a9bf-7151f75b049c 00:54:05.408 --> 00:54:07.093 that's how old I am. NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 091383f8-2f87-4ab1-9dae-d022b77e251e 00:54:07.100 --> 00:54:08.816 But Judge Weinstein's got it right. NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 c4b4bfe0-1c84-45d4-8027-5894ac83c0cc 00:54:08.820 --> 00:54:11.756 And so take a brief break just 10 NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 eeda6fd2-5f28-471b-86da-e319df2212b9 00:54:11.756 --> 00:54:14.691 minutes about 11:30 if that's okay with NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 11cef4eb-5df9-48e1-8d8c-b4bc7701dd9c 00:54:14.691 --> 00:54:16.980 everyone and and we'll try from now on NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 6419b2a2-e62e-4b6f-a8bf-2649279cc324 00:54:16.980 --> 00:54:19.258 to to limit anyone everyone to 10 minutes. NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 ae4dee0c-5bcc-4bcf-83af-b451c84cc248 00:54:19.260 --> 00:54:21.388 I wanted to go a little longer with NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 09c90567-0f30-474b-a2c7-a48dbf3da7a8 00:54:21.388 --> 00:54:23.038 from with budget particularly after NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 a985d2ca-ecd4-47ab-ae4a-4b00ef634c82 00:54:23.038 --> 00:54:25.132 Judge Zyes spoke because so many NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 45741bdc-cd95-4986-9653-75ca3ced3c34 00:54:25.132 --> 00:54:27.331 of those issues are at the core of NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 300cb263-716f-4844-b7f6-63ecd39d8dd7 00:54:27.331 --> 00:54:29.218 of what we have to decide here. NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 26581717-e1f2-458c-a37c-06838fce28ac 00:54:29.220 --> 00:54:31.810 So I thank you for your indulgence NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 7efd7987-8fd5-4532-b9c3-9b3d10e5b81a 00:54:31.810 --> 00:54:34.540 on us going over that 10 minute NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 f3cf5427-f0b1-4814-be45-6b751fa556f8 00:54:34.540 --> 00:54:37.326 restraint on everyone and I I also NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 4e4bef05-5235-4089-b839-0b15c404bf29 00:54:37.326 --> 00:54:40.058 didn't mention at the very beginning, NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 ccd63b91-a807-43e3-ad13-8991a0bbcaf4 00:54:40.060 --> 00:54:42.034 I want to particularly thank today NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 91482bf9-0fa7-4ab2-ba0b-d14dca079c63 00:54:42.034 --> 00:54:44.171 the New York City Bar Association NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 48aa5c81-14a3-49cd-829e-0d175760205d 00:54:44.171 --> 00:54:46.066 for agreeing to host this. NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 7a6737a8-8e48-47cc-a8ba-b2d1d3e22105 00:54:46.070 --> 00:54:50.523 This is a beautiful room with a number NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 1c39ad5f-0a13-463a-a104-c6604ddab977 00:54:50.523 --> 00:54:53.241 of pictures that represent New York's NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 e4b2a30f-9a0f-44e8-9cf0-1b8957a9d647 00:54:53.241 --> 00:54:55.590 distinguished history in the judiciary. NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 49a28169-2c62-46cf-87e8-97e77ca8b6d2 00:54:55.590 --> 00:54:57.708 I'm looking at Ruth Bader Ginsburg, NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 fd60e141-38cc-4240-945f-2e14a6c5d8fd 00:54:57.710 --> 00:55:00.510 Sonia Sotomayor and many of NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 ade15a04-562a-4278-8eb5-4f1ac237f48e 00:55:00.510 --> 00:55:02.750 our other distinguished jurors. NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 9b0dbc1f-cd12-440d-942e-46b89aeaecd2 00:55:02.750 --> 00:55:05.450 And it's a privilege to be in this room NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 88890d65-a1dc-4fa5-9a25-6af099fdfa3e 00:55:05.450 --> 00:55:08.408 and to conduct a hearing in this setting. NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 57057a86-329c-4a49-8feb-c85457352281 00:55:08.410 --> 00:55:12.650 OK Our next speaker is Justice Paul Wooten, NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 38dddbda-2709-429d-886e-79f2869f1fae 00:55:12.650 --> 00:55:15.218 who's the 1st vice president of NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 5d58aceb-4751-41e0-817d-8fd15ae40cd0 00:55:15.218 --> 00:55:16.930 the Judicial Friends Association. NOTE Confidence: 0.9366314 46f63784-731b-49c1-98db-0b728b01af66 00:55:16.930 --> 00:55:17.370 Judge NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 e31ed007-6c75-42a2-8122-226c9d78ea59 00:55:26.530 --> 00:55:26.930 morning. NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 69ba50dd-1ff8-48a5-a978-26fc55b57c71 00:55:29.170 --> 00:55:31.348 And I'll be well aware of NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 e45c03e9-b3da-4957-ac93-64d10f214941 00:55:31.348 --> 00:55:33.370 the 10 minutes time frame. NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 84890d82-d480-4865-8627-0bc99d851bc9 00:55:33.370 --> 00:55:35.490 So good morning, Commissioner Fahey, NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 f1f868ba-964b-47ba-aff9-b584813f56f0 00:55:35.490 --> 00:55:37.308 the other commissioners, NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 98fd9857-be6c-43b6-94d1-534ee6f8f1a4 00:55:37.308 --> 00:55:40.092 on behalf of our President, NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 2acc991f-b177-4585-b407-5346a18a1348 00:55:40.092 --> 00:55:42.978 Cheryl Gonzalez, one of the justices NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 8009f878-a4f9-48f9-9e0d-6e4eba30ee6a 00:55:42.978 --> 00:55:45.688 of the State Supreme Court, NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 f0398e75-9ae8-4cfb-80d7-ea855aaac5c2 00:55:45.690 --> 00:55:47.130 and our members on the board, NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 3f3110a5-236b-4bc9-83ad-8d2bbd8b5045 00:55:47.130 --> 00:55:49.212 we bring citations and thank you NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 426bbde2-a17e-4baf-8649-1d8dadf32fe3 00:55:49.212 --> 00:55:51.162 for this opportunity to speak to NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 da2d5204-d3fb-49b1-b3da-d194ed22bde7 00:55:51.162 --> 00:55:53.970 you on this very urgent matter. NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 807144ba-1ffc-4e19-83b8-bc18e1754667 00:55:53.970 --> 00:55:56.855 The Judicial Friends Association was NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 606a6dd0-806c-44ac-9f77-b1c5b7a5fa3e 00:55:56.855 --> 00:56:00.025 established in 1976 by a group of NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 01339459-745b-4e5a-bbdc-315fe05005ac 00:56:00.025 --> 00:56:02.040 African American judges within the NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 bab6e3db-7dea-426e-bf6c-c7b3ff77c51a 00:56:02.117 --> 00:56:04.814 state of New York seeking the fair and NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 2ecc5128-6257-4df9-ae01-f285c10c20b4 00:56:04.814 --> 00:56:06.569 just treatment of minority justices, NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 086782d1-2289-4631-b52b-60fb9e6fd72b 00:56:06.570 --> 00:56:08.085 staff and attorneys. NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 2211d30a-92a5-42e0-8bc8-6fcd6b0bac3e 00:56:08.085 --> 00:56:10.610 With the oldest established organization NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 8d02a1c1-c626-4b55-92c3-3e149161d3a4 00:56:10.610 --> 00:56:12.972 committed to racial equity in the NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 8df64b01-9579-4f18-af19-ab7ad83c8fe3 00:56:12.972 --> 00:56:15.264 field of law for racial and language NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 667d2688-8e43-435e-9472-cda2ce0c7e2b 00:56:15.264 --> 00:56:17.620 minorities in the state of New York. NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 eb933df7-f876-4124-8724-3f2f8ce4a529 00:56:17.620 --> 00:56:19.839 We serve to educate and to advocate NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 99b22bc3-6257-4a01-8223-704af3c87305 00:56:19.839 --> 00:56:21.780 on behalf of the judiciary, NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 73cd36ea-439d-4b77-8be6-d4d0eae1e261 00:56:21.780 --> 00:56:23.985 judicial and non judicial court staff and NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 285ad1a6-2768-4251-9e12-dcd333e0905e 00:56:23.985 --> 00:56:26.018 attorneys on issues affecting the court, NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 c6499a64-ef25-4471-8e6a-6c88b98a9323 00:56:26.020 --> 00:56:29.440 in particular issues issues affecting NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 60308667-5f8e-4568-8bc6-86330a897dce 00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:32.176 racial and language minorities. NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 52af56e0-da65-4d47-b89e-49e7ec0108c8 00:56:32.180 --> 00:56:37.440 We go back to the Voting Rights Act of 1965. NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 332a088b-ac95-413b-a904-af41fa9d3f6d 00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:40.480 Certainly African Americans NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 f8777fff-7658-4472-abb7-8152d88aa8c5 00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:43.478 and Hispanics were were labeled NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 59aadd7b-aaed-4940-be22-5ff08eea22e7 00:56:43.478 --> 00:56:45.542 under Section 5 as racial and NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 ee4994a0-b6a1-4461-a1a8-5393c67e9915 00:56:45.542 --> 00:56:47.070 language minorities in particular. NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 f7a703b1-4771-49e6-b243-442bb4d1b034 00:56:47.070 --> 00:56:50.646 We bring this forward on the issue of NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 63947618-c6a5-40fc-a023-9cd4f45f5acd 00:56:50.646 --> 00:56:53.298 salary because we applaud the USC's NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 b83ae2aa-719a-4cff-9571-a15bf4c5f60e 00:56:53.298 --> 00:56:56.106 commitment to racial and cultural diversity. NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 488e9529-f102-454f-be3a-db28a20a57bd 00:56:56.110 --> 00:56:57.790 Just as a quick point, NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 d8fb3b2e-0c17-4e90-b723-65c7322e6f13 00:56:57.790 --> 00:57:00.920 we aware we've issued a report on the NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 338e885b-5087-46fb-b1c1-a95fbbfa3e5e 00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:02.750 systematic racism in New York State, NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 4afebba1-40e0-4151-9bad-47f810725149 00:57:02.750 --> 00:57:04.910 which is on our website. NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 075fe89d-6717-456f-8681-4127972e3334 00:57:04.910 --> 00:57:06.714 We've reviewed questions of NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 44413279-7cea-4ec5-9043-0bcbaf47c71b 00:57:06.714 --> 00:57:08.067 the Johnson's report. NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 3892b670-b07a-44cf-89d8-664930911a0e 00:57:08.070 --> 00:57:10.300 We've also reviewed the New NOTE Confidence: 0.927289 98578ecf-44be-46ef-8ad1-a84a8518760d 00:57:10.300 --> 00:57:12.450 York State Task Force on NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 8b24890f-9a6a-485c-9d61-d03d33b17935 00:57:14.650 --> 00:57:15.898 Advancing Diversity and there's NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 42b59b51-f29a-4c25-9936-a26fae0d20b6 00:57:15.898 --> 00:57:17.770 some very good things in there. NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 b2362aa7-dd17-4e86-9588-90a91c14954d 00:57:17.770 --> 00:57:19.940 But the point we wanted to make NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 b4b5307e-a6ec-4498-b464-a9f70206168c 00:57:19.940 --> 00:57:23.502 today is that we feel that there NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 ea5b1ce7-6aea-4042-9113-1ebc5f7319c8 00:57:23.502 --> 00:57:28.830 is a a sort of professional brain NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 b044f182-f3ee-4e34-8a19-42849e79e314 00:57:28.830 --> 00:57:32.048 drain as a result of the the, NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 92e090b9-cdc3-40ed-8e59-739709ca66c0 00:57:32.050 --> 00:57:34.580 the salary. In other words, NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 1e0533fb-de12-424f-8e8a-75adfcae9c8c 00:57:34.580 --> 00:57:37.036 New York State has committed to the fact NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 829b970c-0e63-4947-be42-874ed12f44b0 00:57:37.036 --> 00:57:39.218 of racial diversity in the judiciary NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 585eae38-e180-45d5-b194-b4544a15312e 00:57:39.218 --> 00:57:41.780 and it states really three reasons why. NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 5c3cee8d-4359-4dd7-a361-2450f185092a 00:57:41.780 --> 00:57:44.769 One reason is because in order to NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 d813aab7-3293-4d9d-b501-0228ad86139e 00:57:44.769 --> 00:57:47.460 legitimize the system in the judiciary, NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 47d7e80e-062d-4d59-a849-2f1169dbe5bb 00:57:47.460 --> 00:57:49.452 you need people in the judiciary NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 b6ca352f-6dc3-4ec1-9de5-15cbfb694e17 00:57:49.452 --> 00:57:50.780 who look like you. NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 87141191-643d-4e3d-a0ea-65635cec9bb0 00:57:50.780 --> 00:57:52.537 So when people walk into a courtroom, NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 42a37d5f-180d-4885-9d17-4841ac986723 00:57:52.540 --> 00:57:54.048 whether it's family court, NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 f89844f6-f2b3-4910-87e6-c8f094415bee 00:57:54.048 --> 00:57:55.933 housing court or state court, NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 2d5675cd-e124-433a-a643-7c200c461318 00:57:55.940 --> 00:57:58.691 it legitimizes the system if they see NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 fd798fae-f2e0-4aef-b3cc-e6c1a9d8cffa 00:57:58.691 --> 00:58:01.976 workers who look like them and act like them. NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 5fbdc39a-62c0-4aab-92cd-ab94aae3f47e 00:58:01.980 --> 00:58:03.260 And secondly, NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 9325371a-27fe-4bf1-8d87-b81c12a9136e 00:58:03.260 --> 00:58:06.380 another reason is because it enhances NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 8a9267eb-7035-4f74-b8e0-19cfeb61727d 00:58:06.380 --> 00:58:09.140 the educational of the decision makers. NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 e853d9db-a8b4-453a-b076-cc752f91f802 00:58:09.140 --> 00:58:10.451 In other words, NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 34534679-cc8a-4988-a17a-cb610193fae4 00:58:10.451 --> 00:58:13.510 when judges meet with other judges from NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 9173636c-67f4-4d2d-817b-74f388b1d054 00:58:13.597 --> 00:58:16.855 other cultures or from other experiences, NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 aca76132-ffa3-4023-ad38-a8388a27fe50 00:58:16.860 --> 00:58:20.424 it eliminates the issues of implicit NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 3fd258d2-ce9b-4748-9197-b324261736de 00:58:20.424 --> 00:58:24.040 bias and the issues of discrimination NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 54ccb0b7-3f1e-4822-84ff-dfa1fdb467c8 00:58:24.040 --> 00:58:27.765 because it educates the decision maker NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 188e1651-86ea-4bcc-ac5f-183fca70b7bc 00:58:27.765 --> 00:58:30.804 in different aspects of different people. NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 50394d08-e7c3-4a3b-8d7b-f5c14f90a452 00:58:30.804 --> 00:58:33.660 And what we're trying to point out NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 b1ede9e7-53d2-4df4-90bb-3256adfc148c 00:58:33.660 --> 00:58:35.524 is that where as we look under the NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 10b76ffc-ff6a-49f6-af6b-e16a5f7c49c4 00:58:35.524 --> 00:58:37.060 issues of diversity, and I'm not, NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 bf66e810-6477-4408-91b4-59a326453506 00:58:37.060 --> 00:58:38.020 I was going to read them, NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 36a536dd-7625-446a-a596-eb52db3aa5c4 00:58:38.020 --> 00:58:39.637 but I'm not going to read them NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 7989bb6b-8687-4e70-834a-a13d3f88ff0e 00:58:39.637 --> 00:58:40.660 in issues of time, NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 581d9c8e-ad38-4b22-b630-27ec523502e4 00:58:40.660 --> 00:58:44.685 the issues of diversity have been going NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 c5665482-565c-4bd2-9310-85f4b008afa1 00:58:44.685 --> 00:58:46.778 down on the issues of racial diversity, NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 b671b5eb-fba4-446e-8981-6916f1dcc6cb 00:58:46.780 --> 00:58:49.216 particularly in areas of New York City. NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 9c25a8fc-dca8-4414-ad1a-6f5c68a163ca 00:58:49.220 --> 00:58:50.930 We now understand that there's NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 c0e3c1cc-c1fa-4051-b868-65b153fc6828 00:58:50.930 --> 00:58:53.020 20 million people in New York. NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 5007c7b6-1700-4815-89a1-4fdd5cfbff8d 00:58:53.020 --> 00:58:53.842 I'm 20 people, NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 c0f70422-95b0-46dd-a276-5f0e4f5b377e 00:58:53.842 --> 00:58:56.100 million people in the state of New York. NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 9d2b5526-2858-40c4-843e-ccf6eb8c1c69 00:58:56.100 --> 00:58:59.376 You got about 10 million in New York City. NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 33c08175-b0e4-4c08-8035-2ad7daa16e1b 00:58:59.380 --> 00:59:00.052 You've got, NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 0ec91ef7-38f9-4830-9118-fb285c0793a5 00:59:00.052 --> 00:59:02.404 if you're just looking at African Americans, NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 e8012b94-c827-4d05-941c-409bf5b80811 00:59:02.410 --> 00:59:04.981 we make up about 15% of the state. NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 854ee34f-5637-4871-b5fc-cd76539f2011 00:59:04.981 --> 00:59:08.448 In New York City, we make up about 24.6%. NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 375a3ee8-9ce7-44a2-ade5-eb4f3f876294 00:59:08.448 --> 00:59:11.076 But if you're looking at the NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 5b8f1294-143d-4adf-abaf-015d31512f18 00:59:11.076 --> 00:59:14.102 major courts where most of racial NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 08a24cc1-c72f-4453-89a0-06ed978705fe 00:59:14.102 --> 00:59:15.725 minorities are appearing, NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 2d49b73d-26a7-4431-aab4-32f68e973895 00:59:15.730 --> 00:59:18.007 whether it be the New York City civil court, NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 d626eccb-8518-4605-9b52-e3fc9cc5c2b1 00:59:18.010 --> 00:59:19.606 whether it be the family court, NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 761cbb71-f77b-4e2c-b7a2-6dffc25609f9 00:59:19.610 --> 00:59:21.410 whether it be the housing court, NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 5ffe9cc5-ecb5-4fa1-96e5-77edb57207cc 00:59:21.410 --> 00:59:23.228 those are the areas where the NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 e0bfd06f-caf9-4c37-85a8-3efae8715ba9 00:59:23.228 --> 00:59:25.130 racial diversity is the most stark. NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 6cc88d01-cc40-4d21-afaa-772b15d0421c 00:59:25.130 --> 00:59:26.790 And the question is, NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 16f41bf4-0edd-4164-b32d-5bdbb4066dcd 00:59:26.790 --> 00:59:29.852 is that the one reason why racial NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 4be04fcd-65e4-413c-a1d3-7069e5558d04 00:59:29.852 --> 00:59:33.191 diversity is an issue is because you NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 54a6506f-185f-4d20-975e-0d03dfa6f885 00:59:33.191 --> 00:59:37.910 don't have the number of either Asian, NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 7d082297-1147-41f1-8a70-b86945ba5fb2 00:59:37.910 --> 00:59:40.865 Hispanic or black attorneys who NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 ede2e57a-c50d-4b4d-920f-252d9da1905f 00:59:40.865 --> 00:59:43.229 go into the system. NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 083224e2-c758-4fbc-9667-e42783fcdf0d 00:59:43.230 --> 00:59:46.908 It's not just a question of NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 e63dcc2e-502c-4cac-9819-4089090ef4fe 00:59:46.910 --> 00:59:48.470 of wanting to be a judge, NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 6f3f0445-fcfb-4eef-ab78-6b9533c67ea2 00:59:48.470 --> 00:59:50.700 it's the availability of how NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 dc4044f4-0038-4cb3-bd54-9d9c7d2410a8 00:59:50.700 --> 00:59:52.930 many attorneys are out there NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 a0773869-db9b-4ddc-bbd0-e7f84f568065 00:59:53.013 --> 00:59:55.515 that can take the judicial path. NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 939380ab-e449-478b-8ad3-4e76a1832f9b 00:59:55.520 --> 00:59:57.620 And we look at the A/B A NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 5d967fb4-4930-427e-9ce5-dc5d3844db8b 00:59:57.620 --> 00:59:59.520 statistics this year and last year. NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 aee5233d-f267-47ab-b3e5-4987b3202ad1 00:59:59.520 --> 01:00:01.998 They tell us that there's about NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 213a3c19-2fad-47b5-88b0-96aa3a40daa1 01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:04.475 116,000 graduates every year from NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 dfd276e2-7a46-4f44-b5fd-875f778cd0e6 01:00:04.475 --> 01:00:06.950 all the law schools throughout NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 1d1ef7df-4ca2-47ab-b5ca-b6648fce108f 01:00:07.030 --> 01:00:09.118 the throughout the country. NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 9ea1c4f8-8574-4a39-802c-2014010c3a43 01:00:09.120 --> 01:00:12.128 African Americans make up about 9000, NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 d5a03a10-5e1a-4a4d-8e74-3c7fee6073b0 01:00:12.128 --> 01:00:17.615 which is about 8% and this is their 2002, NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 b1a7574f-174c-42f6-8274-5b7a37c97f42 01:00:17.615 --> 01:00:18.980 2001, 2000 survey. NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 82214dba-0e72-4c05-829f-4a314bcc7ec9 01:00:18.980 --> 01:00:21.400 When we look at Hispanics, NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 854cc199-a408-4c10-a559-cffb0534b632 01:00:21.400 --> 01:00:23.200 who identifies Hispanics? NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 c4c622ac-2f27-4ee5-b65c-82518ff9766e 01:00:23.200 --> 01:00:24.837 It's about 16,000. NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 0a11e302-9c84-4ec7-a3e7-fb70c1789224 01:00:24.837 --> 01:00:27.459 The number of whites who identify NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 0ace6f13-4ace-482e-9b55-3383b2dc9163 01:00:27.459 --> 01:00:29.880 as whites is about 70,000. NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 c87f3d1d-dc32-4549-8976-62116e83d752 01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:33.562 So the question becomes that we don't NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 abc9322a-5442-44a9-a5f4-e2ea7bc0834e 01:00:33.562 --> 01:00:36.340 have data on what happens in New York State, NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 a106d0e7-1eaa-4be4-a3e7-dbbe1393b948 01:00:36.340 --> 01:00:38.380 but we can extrapolate that NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 32650cc7-a094-4c54-a290-c3388ae5b23e 01:00:38.380 --> 01:00:40.012 the number of black, NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 6186c3f8-0675-4215-9e43-8c1adad2756c 01:00:40.020 --> 01:00:42.172 Hispanic or Asian attorneys NOTE Confidence: 0.9292453 81cbccd1-ee1e-42c3-bb66-1d2886cc34a1 01:00:42.172 --> 01:00:45.400 that are available to go the NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 63dee4f6-ec9d-4d62-92cd-24a372a9231f 01:00:45.497 --> 01:00:48.377 judiciary track is very small. NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 be3c3397-b1d6-48fc-87a0-f65cd5e7a76d 01:00:48.380 --> 01:00:49.868 That affects diversity, NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 964be454-e37e-46da-a7ca-b0add4d49837 01:00:49.868 --> 01:00:53.340 That affects the legitimacy of the system. NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 00f882cd-2644-4a1e-8af8-9ad631c8a121 01:00:53.340 --> 01:00:55.990 That affects the ability to NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 df061e96-ffca-45b2-a5db-69d639783acc 01:00:55.990 --> 01:00:58.110 eliminate inherent bias and NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 ec429843-3a22-42d9-a6a6-055625968f1f 01:00:58.110 --> 01:00:59.778 discrimination in the system. NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 cc3a374e-3119-4314-9f00-c345dd84cbc1 01:00:59.780 --> 01:01:05.092 The signal you sent by telling judges that NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 7fb11822-25e1-492e-ae60-37fc0597ecee 01:01:05.092 --> 01:01:07.900 they will not get a raise for four years, NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 0ec7ee18-05f8-42ae-81da-1a0e8e890582 01:01:07.900 --> 01:01:09.490 particularly these judges NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 65cd1824-4eb9-41ed-908b-555f693a18cd 01:01:09.490 --> 01:01:12.140 who are in these courts, NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 1eb26ce4-bc8a-4bf5-8be3-f3da2ac48bc4 01:01:12.140 --> 01:01:14.380 will affect those mentorships NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 1dc96a28-0a42-496c-9508-ca1508e7c07f 01:01:14.380 --> 01:01:17.740 of people who decide to be NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 3bcc689c-9638-45c8-9f6a-899572d5f4cd 01:01:17.840 --> 01:01:20.480 attorneys on the judiciary track. NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 7b584565-eeae-4bad-acde-2e8f86a0a679 01:01:20.480 --> 01:01:23.095 So if we're taking that 9000, NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 83096e8f-6b91-46bb-a7ef-ad39d1ab7e8d 01:01:23.095 --> 01:01:26.575 every year they have a choice of whether, NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 f4176a87-fa69-4d01-8f0f-17ae8a0702ee 01:01:26.580 --> 01:01:27.940 according to the State Bar NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 b802f697-4bc0-4582-b869-8351d8742650 01:01:27.940 --> 01:01:29.300 report that just came out, NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 def9b731-a8e1-4430-9fae-e78abba7c343 01:01:29.300 --> 01:01:30.980 there's diversity in the judiciary, NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 ea6ae3f3-284d-405b-b001-292b3b906260 01:01:30.980 --> 01:01:32.315 diversity in education. NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 62945e4a-43bc-4907-94ee-94868cb6c31a 01:01:32.315 --> 01:01:34.095 There's diversity in corporate. NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 232924ed-00b1-4b48-8ad2-f8ede9ee5571 01:01:34.100 --> 01:01:36.536 There's diversity in the law firms. NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 1b0274a2-39de-4d6c-8f9c-4af9319bd592 01:01:36.540 --> 01:01:37.852 According to the A/B, NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 8b17e39d-4e52-45fd-a13f-82d1fa6350a1 01:01:37.852 --> 01:01:39.492 a report that came out, NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 d53da8d7-2cc9-4d33-916c-f7639ad8c471 01:01:39.500 --> 01:01:42.380 the median income of a small law firm, NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 7f721327-04c8-4295-b5a0-117394d29d9b 01:01:42.380 --> 01:01:44.540 they define it as under 100. NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 ab04a0b4-a992-480a-af61-9966691a159a 01:01:44.540 --> 01:01:47.012 The median income of a first NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 4afa5289-1c68-4006-a23d-8fc474198adf 01:01:47.012 --> 01:01:49.331 year law student is $120,000. NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 7a88b6b4-1b43-458e-8fd8-736dabe98c11 01:01:49.331 --> 01:01:51.344 The median 50%. NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 51812ea0-8ee5-4a6e-bb4e-82b6c52130ed 01:01:51.344 --> 01:01:56.088 But our opening for a first year NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 2da337b2-b2d3-4ff9-b97d-a94be767e95a 01:01:56.088 --> 01:02:00.295 law student out of a out of a law NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 55fe6c12-e8eb-46a4-b930-9fc785adc184 01:02:00.295 --> 01:02:03.346 school is a maximum is about $86,000. NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 04b538ec-6279-44ad-897d-f8470a87cfdb 01:02:03.346 --> 01:02:05.044 It's J 24, NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 550f5f2b-ebd2-4cca-87af-cb24da5a2f7a 01:02:05.044 --> 01:02:07.724 so the assistant law clerk starts NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 6ed8e846-4ab5-4da7-badb-cd09f1590bf1 01:02:07.724 --> 01:02:11.410 off at AT at $86,000 whereby NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 5125d9bc-33ef-43dd-8cf1-44c55ea0ae88 01:02:11.410 --> 01:02:14.735 if I go the law firm track, NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 ea2e9fca-0488-4a44-913d-f285b0e962b2 01:02:14.740 --> 01:02:17.120 I get a median and a small NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 b4b72607-0f06-4e7f-9f08-be9c7d115e85 01:02:17.120 --> 01:02:18.496 law from of $120,000. NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 298e0b6f-a8bd-437d-a32e-2f974ff69de2 01:02:18.496 --> 01:02:20.632 That number is similar when you NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 af43782c-a5d7-42b9-a2dd-93fa881d5fde 01:02:20.632 --> 01:02:23.179 look at the corporate first year. NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 8ea49ae0-004e-49c7-9cac-a8ac7cdf05eb 01:02:23.180 --> 01:02:26.635 So the question is how do we get our NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 475e5c90-bc91-49ab-b3fa-4c974d2aa766 01:02:26.635 --> 01:02:30.325 future lawyers and graduates to take NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 8b28c2d1-183b-4a1d-b3b4-4200b7844ecb 01:02:30.325 --> 01:02:34.537 the judiciary track as difficult as it is. NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 f092f9ba-a5eb-4d7f-aab6-55833fe5d91f 01:02:34.540 --> 01:02:37.100 And if we don't send the signal that NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 1e31d2b9-dbeb-4b63-b077-b6ecac7ae0e1 01:02:37.100 --> 01:02:39.478 we're going to be able to compensate NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 d4618592-cdbe-48f4-aa45-8084e2ff2aa3 01:02:39.478 --> 01:02:41.819 those judges so that they can live, NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 72097ca5-3a4c-45de-8c1e-11ed004dc3f2 01:02:41.820 --> 01:02:43.620 that's going to be a problem, NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 7aeac3c7-057c-429e-8c35-6efa0ef23c47 01:02:43.620 --> 01:02:46.656 particularly the the courts I mentioned NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 3aaeaa99-aa83-4ffd-8849-fb223d9cd8d5 01:02:46.660 --> 01:02:48.496 the mayor appoints all those courts. NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 369dba6a-8db9-4860-bfde-7ff32b1608e9 01:02:48.500 --> 01:02:51.036 Those people have to live in New York. NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 f7e379e1-89df-4b07-94b1-336291bb113d 01:02:51.040 --> 01:02:52.240 Family court judges have NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 b3272d0b-5888-44f5-a48f-63a3c83a9f64 01:02:52.240 --> 01:02:54.040 to live in New York City. NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 980105a0-eaf8-4591-82dd-32c0eca2973f 01:02:54.040 --> 01:02:55.288 Criminal Court judges have NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 c0ae804c-23ef-4131-9f01-b50b5880a855 01:02:55.288 --> 01:02:57.160 to live in New York City. NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 d14c6dfd-2426-4167-b03c-4f5941fe97e9 01:02:57.160 --> 01:02:58.584 Housing court judges have NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 e8bddfdb-ef92-4ba0-9a3c-e38208496266 01:02:58.584 --> 01:03:00.720 to live in New York City. NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 d160725f-ac98-44c7-81a7-7836f4e28fe4 01:03:00.720 --> 01:03:04.040 So they're subject to the NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 d4b6eba6-f37d-4d33-838a-0cc9b2b1373f 01:03:04.040 --> 01:03:07.753 inflation and the GP index that NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 1cdac66a-4a1a-4124-baed-1a5699eae2a0 01:03:07.753 --> 01:03:10.118 reduces their their buying power. NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 ede13b77-088f-4729-8111-120f109cc643 01:03:10.120 --> 01:03:11.624 Why should they stay? NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 bc895af4-3df3-46b0-9e1d-7c9a67e84201 01:03:11.624 --> 01:03:13.880 They have no reason to stay. NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 55ca74d7-aa24-4d2e-abb3-86a968ad7e98 01:03:13.880 --> 01:03:16.848 They can do just as well or better NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 d58ef9f0-d8b4-4dce-8a49-ff8c667e612d 01:03:16.848 --> 01:03:19.239 outside in the private sector. NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 fe4e4864-e345-44cb-811c-7a911482c9af 01:03:19.240 --> 01:03:21.320 But this is more stark, NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 981780ea-9e3b-4da7-92e6-d20536b6a1d4 01:03:21.320 --> 01:03:24.648 This is more severe for us in the NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 200fd177-00d0-405e-af64-c8d841f47864 01:03:24.648 --> 01:03:27.310 system because it reduces diversity NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 dcac96c5-69ce-427c-9c3a-806cddf7add6 01:03:27.310 --> 01:03:30.424 and undermines the system, you see. NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 e3e7a17f-fc70-40ae-8ea1-c2a67a104b05 01:03:30.424 --> 01:03:31.600 Thank you, judge. NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 6164e889-2ced-4b31-b07f-9c90354c8396 01:03:31.600 --> 01:03:33.920 Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.94025666 6053a6b6-ef7b-4070-b12c-ac42bde08819 01:03:33.920 --> 01:03:39.720 Our next speaker is Judge Shabanin Ali. NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 cca71e41-1a5a-45f6-a45f-f8edce46f458 01:03:43.380 --> 01:03:45.216 If I mispronounce, please excuse me. NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 25ef3e5c-22aa-4cc0-ae33-fe7f1cd9e9a0 01:03:45.220 --> 01:03:46.740 I apologize. No, Judge you. NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 7481ca75-305a-4954-a7c4-fe4d6f529b12 01:03:46.740 --> 01:03:48.420 You actually pronounced it correctly. NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 1c3054ae-7bb7-4ad7-8941-28aae7ecce97 01:03:48.420 --> 01:03:52.020 I've been mispronouncing it the entire. NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 e382def8-a411-40fd-b220-9dc184cb21cf 01:03:52.020 --> 01:03:55.296 That's always a good way to start with the. NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 a85593ee-6dbd-4d94-bd3b-4c65b5c5d8b1 01:03:55.300 --> 01:03:56.434 And I'm keeping track of my NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 83ffd6b9-910c-4eaa-99e7-c262eaf81c7b 01:03:56.434 --> 01:03:57.780 time to honor the time as well. NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 3f5ccd3a-70b1-4530-be36-c389c375e70c 01:03:57.780 --> 01:03:59.820 Yeah, do your best. Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 db34b196-ee23-4356-9628-72158e623d7c 01:03:59.820 --> 01:04:00.724 Good morning, Your Honor. NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 3a618e4b-4be8-462f-b5b0-468cddd4544d 01:04:00.724 --> 01:04:01.908 Good morning, Sheriff Ahey. NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 42bd4397-70a5-4623-a059-f5eea5501e30 01:04:01.908 --> 01:04:04.456 And to the members of the Commission. NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 5727369c-da80-479c-9fb4-3ca2d253e0d5 01:04:04.460 --> 01:04:06.338 My name is Judge Shahabadine Ali. NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 828e3158-6392-4894-91b7-cec7bfced30b 01:04:06.340 --> 01:04:09.133 I am the supervising judge of New NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 6761eef0-1a43-411c-a226-87523251f734 01:04:09.133 --> 01:04:11.760 York County Civil Court as well as NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 045a54ca-152e-477d-b714-2fdb682c442c 01:04:11.760 --> 01:04:13.680 the President of the Asian American NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 e4004f9e-f482-4f6d-8b55-63a339fedb8a 01:04:13.680 --> 01:04:15.520 Judges Association of New York. NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 d2076b36-1554-45db-ae32-f0a16a450ed8 01:04:15.520 --> 01:04:16.592 I understand your time. NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 705a98cc-06f8-4d7d-b513-bbeea07358e8 01:04:16.592 --> 01:04:18.680 We have we're we're we're pressed for time. NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 56e6adb7-dd87-4deb-8a3b-25fda8689698 01:04:18.680 --> 01:04:21.456 So I will do my best to refund NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 cee825df-c211-4b48-9aad-2338f4e30664 01:04:21.456 --> 01:04:23.440 time to the Commission. NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 cd1099c3-5a81-41cc-8a9b-ea349109f9b6 01:04:23.440 --> 01:04:26.840 I I do believe that there is a an opportunity NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 c3e37abc-0fba-47ac-bf3f-38a6959eae49 01:04:26.916 --> 01:04:29.148 to submit a formal written statement. NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 bbed9c6b-b220-4c53-9342-4741f542ee51 01:04:29.148 --> 01:04:31.292 I will take advantage of that and I NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 03e2177a-c7f0-4fd1-bb7f-92679d12243c 01:04:31.292 --> 01:04:33.226 would like to highlight maybe two points NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 b7b5b75c-272c-4a5e-b49e-cd082e57a49e 01:04:33.226 --> 01:04:35.439 made by our Chief Administrative Judge, NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 0849d210-1dfc-43b7-a37a-5fb748f7c3ae 01:04:35.440 --> 01:04:36.030 Judge Dias, NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 c1bb8c07-ee7e-458f-8f99-0035104346e1 01:04:36.030 --> 01:04:37.800 and is also with Judge Wooten. NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 21ad1551-561e-46ea-9cc1-8f3fca2993c8 01:04:37.800 --> 01:04:40.056 Is always a pleasure to follow Judge Wooten, NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 db9dd5f0-42aa-4f5a-876b-07ccd7caa587 01:04:40.056 --> 01:04:42.160 because I can begin by saying I agree NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 8cf31ccb-dfe8-4eec-a9e8-da97374c94aa 01:04:42.220 --> 01:04:44.334 with everything he said about diversity. NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 014d1121-783f-41e1-9289-d62fc0d78f1c 01:04:44.334 --> 01:04:46.644 The Asian American Judges Association, NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 410482d1-6961-4e59-8f4a-022e5820e91c 01:04:46.650 --> 01:04:49.530 I'm not sure if you're all familiar with us. NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 f35636aa-87df-4553-889e-f2612f9024bc 01:04:49.530 --> 01:04:52.730 We're 10 years old, started in 2013. NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 d4af7fc1-ad30-4ffe-83cc-80f9318feb52 01:04:52.730 --> 01:04:56.330 We count in New York State. NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 5cd2ff2f-c48d-438f-b831-0416500634d6 01:04:56.330 --> 01:04:59.620 If New York State has 3400 judges, NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 f29c57de-00a1-4b6e-bf04-404a4b7041a2 01:04:59.620 --> 01:05:02.445 including town and village judges, NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 bdc48417-6555-462f-a028-2c255c56f870 01:05:02.450 --> 01:05:05.684 we count 61 judges in our ranks. NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 4759d21b-469e-469b-b730-2b6cf6e6838b 01:05:05.690 --> 01:05:06.770 And like the commissioners who NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 15c11473-5d50-4455-b18b-662d02a8c68f 01:05:06.770 --> 01:05:07.850 talk about their math skills, NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 157968e3-7ad8-4f4d-b27f-1b12a67b4986 01:05:07.850 --> 01:05:10.976 I actually do love math that accounts NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 0cb9f647-0f3d-4ddc-81ed-8c58e7575e20 01:05:10.976 --> 01:05:13.873 for 1.8% of our judiciary where the a NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 5c8b681b-8ddf-4f25-95ee-14c3ba6133cc 01:05:13.873 --> 01:05:16.226 API community in New York State hovers NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 4d33a4ae-d8dd-4db8-a2e8-3368e3896a2b 01:05:16.226 --> 01:05:18.266 around and the numbers are fluid, NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 9fcc1144-4706-4fe1-a2e5-d60e750e6dde 01:05:18.270 --> 01:05:20.510 hovers around 13 to 14%. NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 0485a2c6-37f0-412a-b4a0-44b47f63b446 01:05:20.510 --> 01:05:23.385 So we are drastically underrepresented NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 725338f1-93c6-423c-8316-aaa02271ca3a 01:05:23.385 --> 01:05:25.110 in our judiciary. NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 846bc956-3eb8-44bd-805d-eaa247fcc554 01:05:25.110 --> 01:05:27.770 The purpose of our administration of of NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 f0f670d4-47fd-4de0-8bc6-f1cd56889c92 01:05:27.770 --> 01:05:30.288 our association is to promote diversity NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 22876d74-9310-498b-9d7f-1c7c356f6b62 01:05:30.288 --> 01:05:32.910 but also promote broad based diversity. NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 b8200569-0c16-4a33-b441-969072040b51 01:05:32.910 --> 01:05:36.950 The inclusion of all in our court system. NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 765a5e02-2653-4aba-9c60-19239178c7c7 01:05:36.950 --> 01:05:39.462 Of the 61 judges, NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 3f726f64-1e7b-477f-a24e-fafb18c97b90 01:05:39.462 --> 01:05:43.230 we're fairly new to the bench, NOTE Confidence: 0.92687196 f01ff5e0-5471-4500-b82d-a7a17bd16766 01:05:43.230 --> 01:05:45.590 74% of our judges in the raw number is about NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 6ad3f6c7-c95b-405d-92fd-e2975188ae9e 01:05:48.430 --> 01:05:50.446 6048. Judges have been on the bench NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 aeb19f4f-db47-4fc9-842d-fc8c8994eb7a 01:05:50.446 --> 01:05:53.064 six years or less and I'll and that NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 1dc1c9b4-b645-4657-ab13-bd188370f2f0 01:05:53.064 --> 01:05:54.749 becomes irrelevant in the moment. NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 7bf37b70-4240-4b09-870d-917d2342aed5 01:05:54.750 --> 01:05:57.090 So I do support everything that NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 ec1776c5-5c28-46c1-bb83-a44da9972e48 01:05:57.090 --> 01:05:58.650 Judge Zias mentioned regarding NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 5977534f-b3fd-45f8-b191-530ac0c69e87 01:05:58.721 --> 01:06:00.989 restoring the value of our paycheck, NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 2ae3f750-0cf1-4208-8a33-d344fbb6834b 01:06:00.990 --> 01:06:03.294 but also maintaining the NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 dd981e4e-3e8c-40dc-bebf-1b0d696b3877 01:06:03.294 --> 01:06:05.178 integrity of our court system. NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 50a80cfa-b166-4312-8690-5f193bbbd50f 01:06:05.178 --> 01:06:08.068 And that I'll get to also in a moment. NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 b151cdd0-d477-4262-9815-3d27f0fb70b0 01:06:08.070 --> 01:06:09.510 Out of the 62 counties, NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 8f678109-575a-4212-a89a-5b9b97905f85 01:06:09.510 --> 01:06:11.926 our judges are represented, NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 82d78ca1-09b3-4145-ad67-b097e9de6f99 01:06:11.926 --> 01:06:15.965 only ten of those counties with 87% NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 53767e10-bc44-40ba-ac4c-f5abfe6a45c7 01:06:15.965 --> 01:06:18.870 of our judges in New York City, NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 187132e6-0e86-47fa-b249-7e46c9021e5b 01:06:18.870 --> 01:06:21.950 53 including my, including myself. NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 b6bae211-4f5d-4136-a5b6-b5ca77c8f6b0 01:06:21.950 --> 01:06:23.864 So when we talk about a PIT rate, NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 00b9b421-36f2-4f73-9334-1d6dea7d8bb1 01:06:23.864 --> 01:06:25.149 which I have to confess, NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 b24d8873-e31a-47ae-9b0a-5f414914df07 01:06:25.150 --> 01:06:27.318 I had to Google when the NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 074bda93-33f2-48f5-a93e-01666200e73f 01:06:27.318 --> 01:06:28.310 budget director was speaking, NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 8d67e3ba-b65b-41c3-aabc-f0508b11bfca 01:06:28.310 --> 01:06:29.630 I had no idea what a pit was, NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 2bacfc02-23d4-4ccb-b421-92c0339abdf0 01:06:29.630 --> 01:06:32.230 but it turns out to be a personal income tax. NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 803d128e-8adb-4462-b103-28738479b4f8 01:06:32.230 --> 01:06:34.190 Who knew? Makes sense, right? NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 5982c3fa-0093-41d0-8c2a-1cc4cb030fdd 01:06:34.190 --> 01:06:35.432 We're we're in New York City NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 3f190ce6-74c2-48a1-87e9-94175fafc3a6 01:06:35.432 --> 01:06:36.749 and we have to be bound. NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 f36a079d-8ae9-4eae-b90b-d7d3394a54c2 01:06:36.750 --> 01:06:39.350 We are required to live NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 b10f73a0-7ef8-4a09-9872-ddd527c3837f 01:06:39.350 --> 01:06:40.506 within the five counties. NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 1e3aa4f4-216e-4e0a-af52-c2affb99051a 01:06:40.506 --> 01:06:42.749 I happen to be married to a judge, NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 acda3703-e436-47f3-8dc2-bcec8c6c60c7 01:06:42.750 --> 01:06:43.598 a family court judge. NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 8df81325-8936-429c-afd4-c60680cf8e99 01:06:43.598 --> 01:06:45.222 We we have an option to leave NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 800cb71c-7a18-4284-808b-64a078d68eda 01:06:45.222 --> 01:06:46.430 Manhattan where we reside, NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 e89bd20e-9c83-49c6-93e1-e4200b725efc 01:06:46.430 --> 01:06:47.990 but not to leave the city. NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 fb8069c2-a224-49dd-b704-d10e051e324f 01:06:47.990 --> 01:06:49.110 So we are we're, NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 1be34aed-3a3f-4755-bb39-0933cf0bf3ad 01:06:49.110 --> 01:06:49.390 we're, NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 c4386bc2-08fb-44f3-b2ee-50b5fa830be5 01:06:49.390 --> 01:06:51.504 we're put in tough in tough positions NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 89909ede-3094-41f2-8046-0c39fdde097b 01:06:51.504 --> 01:06:55.940 and tough circumstances and 95% of our NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 6828f952-ad70-4314-8a55-05bdb178f5f0 01:06:55.940 --> 01:06:59.146 members are assigned to the trial courts, NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 b2e86ba5-0430-4159-8d74-16f9b246551f 01:06:59.150 --> 01:07:01.950 the very busy high volume trial courts. NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 d780dfd4-30f9-4e87-bb69-c63a7d41e3fd 01:07:01.950 --> 01:07:04.566 Just for context of how new we are, NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 a7bc3bbf-691f-4468-bd2a-cc4d52cd458f 01:07:04.570 --> 01:07:05.470 the New York, NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 bfff9546-41e4-4b4f-94db-a5a17b12585f 01:07:05.470 --> 01:07:07.942 the New York State courts or New York NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 7b6a4fd0-cc29-4162-a644-5bcefa4f5663 01:07:07.942 --> 01:07:10.084 State in general has had a court NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 dbd24487-6f15-4ea2-b34c-fb1a454c2a91 01:07:10.084 --> 01:07:12.666 system in some fashion for 357 years. NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 f0ff3e85-70f4-40d4-901f-39bb71727b51 01:07:12.666 --> 01:07:15.234 We've never had an A AP NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 e0e7f47b-14a8-43ff-b800-fef55ab74a0c 01:07:15.234 --> 01:07:16.810 identifying judge in Judge Fahey, NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 d3f3ec79-066b-4f9b-abbb-02ebbf82a8d3 01:07:16.810 --> 01:07:18.190 your court, the Court of Appeals, NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 1a0846fc-1cd2-4ab9-88ab-439a68dc9a7d 01:07:18.190 --> 01:07:19.090 we've never had one. NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 26a9748a-d7b5-4528-80cc-ec2804466d8b 01:07:19.090 --> 01:07:20.922 We've never had a judge in the 4th NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 7cbee9d9-9bcc-41ba-95a7-d20d968cb885 01:07:20.922 --> 01:07:22.789 or the 3rd departments and we've NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 a71b421f-7f71-4ac0-9de2-4db3f8869e80 01:07:22.789 --> 01:07:24.609 only had one in Judge Weinstein. NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 b20dd47f-0d67-49b0-bed6-a2729cf495bf 01:07:24.609 --> 01:07:25.248 You'll appreciate this. NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 6b349c73-11f4-4477-8a56-f133498c27a4 01:07:25.250 --> 01:07:27.854 We we've only had one administrative judge NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 fd538403-0713-4dcc-9499-11a766b846e5 01:07:27.854 --> 01:07:30.330 in the history of the New York State. NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 a5477abf-3448-459d-a92c-fcf1d3f7c2b6 01:07:30.330 --> 01:07:32.735 So we have a lot to do in terms of NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 8e338bf2-a635-406a-bbe1-fc9da62072f7 01:07:32.735 --> 01:07:34.064 not not even catching up because NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 91ccccd0-e65d-4087-99b3-0430ef5ab3fc 01:07:34.064 --> 01:07:35.549 we'll probably never catch up, NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 f6c8fcdf-e2ee-4911-ae30-48d616991891 01:07:35.550 --> 01:07:37.950 but just to keep pace, NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 9da5af8d-4e54-40e5-baf3-05d96968e17f 01:07:37.950 --> 01:07:40.626 pay parity in line with inflation, NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 21b76fe6-3e5b-484c-a562-57cd0bd95dc6 01:07:40.630 --> 01:07:41.986 restoring the value of our paycheck. NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 ae7db6dd-d173-4687-a6bf-5dce3cd0d445 01:07:41.990 --> 01:07:44.470 Those are all points that we agree with. NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 3495f00d-683a-4706-8b09-36b9299403dd 01:07:44.470 --> 01:07:45.642 Why does it matter? NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 4354d1d7-f2e3-41c7-b084-08acced4607d 01:07:45.642 --> 01:07:47.470 The a API community stands in NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 3773f415-88f2-4e3b-9260-e9ddff3ed689 01:07:47.470 --> 01:07:48.710 a very different position, NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 c41a8df7-6cab-4c77-9c69-e18afd425d01 01:07:48.710 --> 01:07:49.850 a very unique position. NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 1b30c79e-5958-443d-a645-3dad55010d6b 01:07:49.850 --> 01:07:52.078 We are all we are either immigrants NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 e92d726c-ddef-4aa6-9ca6-5360893b0db7 01:07:52.078 --> 01:07:52.988 like myself. NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 86f7eb40-2e92-47de-ac31-88814b49f9eb 01:07:52.990 --> 01:07:54.474 I was born out of the country NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 71222a5c-dbf8-4782-b063-533916e932bb 01:07:54.474 --> 01:07:55.933 and came here for the pursuit NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 be28f88f-31a7-421c-a73f-4a56986d2ec5 01:07:55.933 --> 01:07:57.223 of the the American dream. NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 deb745b5-9052-477f-83b5-50695943704d 01:07:57.230 --> 01:07:59.300 That is the opportunity or NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 eaa262a1-cf83-4c32-b139-b809fee34b29 01:07:59.300 --> 01:08:00.956 children of first generation. NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 7e9b7d46-7025-4843-9850-eeac8f8c3a72 01:08:00.960 --> 01:08:02.335 If you know anything about NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 d2de16d9-75f4-41e5-83fd-b2e77f132cf7 01:08:02.335 --> 01:08:03.435 a good Asian family, NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 e6c9e346-513f-4783-89cf-92d51d895075 01:08:03.440 --> 01:08:06.398 there are only three acceptable professions. NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 ef84783b-39e7-4758-94ef-85f6c4212976 01:08:06.400 --> 01:08:08.758 You are their doctor and engineer. NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 bc371b85-5c89-44de-990a-d39de15b6699 01:08:08.760 --> 01:08:09.585 And the third, NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 1cd9e38c-1c97-44a8-aab3-9de98a52d122 01:08:09.585 --> 01:08:11.216 the third space is blank, right? NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 0fd0581c-797d-49d1-991a-f7e06d18c785 01:08:11.216 --> 01:08:13.008 So we're already in a tough position NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 0c200340-0842-4442-9fec-e3d8f09e7925 01:08:13.008 --> 01:08:14.679 when we decide to go into law. NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 8315c0d4-754c-471b-9eee-eddc7577d493 01:08:14.680 --> 01:08:16.360 The pursuit of of of the American NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 9436f78c-7622-4e4a-8b4f-5669ee01f84b 01:08:16.360 --> 01:08:17.845 Dream is to make money, right? NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 4cb64013-c1e2-458f-9bdc-1ca4f80054c1 01:08:17.845 --> 01:08:18.595 I'll just put it out there. NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 9b094afd-5fc5-420b-9705-f65b752bcb15 01:08:18.600 --> 01:08:19.884 It's to make money. NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 66a1bd45-9bf3-41ac-87b9-bb12ee78c585 01:08:19.884 --> 01:08:22.440 So when you go into public service, NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 0fb66f27-9220-4d22-bc12-e56b8a058abf 01:08:22.440 --> 01:08:23.379 it's a choice. NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 e5cfcf25-3929-4a8b-bb8e-6be6df203e36 01:08:23.379 --> 01:08:25.257 But it shouldn't be a choice NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 c5ec8a0b-f647-49b4-845b-10308dab59e0 01:08:25.257 --> 01:08:27.136 between earning a living and NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 8196d52b-8d5c-4eea-9ebf-7f23fa83bf32 01:08:27.136 --> 01:08:28.640 doing or pursuing something. NOTE Confidence: 0.9327462 2be4b042-614d-4f29-b327-b5cca0c14acf 01:08:28.640 --> 01:08:29.080 That's great. NOTE Confidence: 0.9391434 a4d9009b-67fa-46e1-89f6-dcd70b613c71 01:08:32.690 --> 01:08:34.510 The choice is really for those of NOTE Confidence: 0.9391434 bb8f6bf3-dd64-4c0d-810b-5b33aef11909 01:08:34.510 --> 01:08:36.605 us who are in the profession of NOTE Confidence: 0.9391434 b702b8c2-cf7e-4d24-a33f-f61d77c1a7af 01:08:36.605 --> 01:08:38.483 a beautiful marriage of the law, NOTE Confidence: 0.9391434 59969504-374c-4461-a01c-14d56e3d0969 01:08:38.490 --> 01:08:40.750 scholarship and public service. NOTE Confidence: 0.9391434 3ee2b4e6-ab2c-4d1f-b443-f5b5b2b7f482 01:08:40.750 --> 01:08:43.010 It fuels our soul. NOTE Confidence: 0.9391434 b73a5e40-9440-4e20-be3b-cb2420b994c8 01:08:43.010 --> 01:08:44.010 But the job should also NOTE Confidence: 0.9391434 cc90090e-ffb5-43e4-8499-bb9fe77c2dcd 01:08:44.010 --> 01:08:44.810 fuel our bank accounts. NOTE Confidence: 0.9391434 06fc5fdb-9723-4600-9021-184789c76da5 01:08:44.810 --> 01:08:47.006 We shouldn't have to be put in this position. NOTE Confidence: 0.9391434 5aa18166-04ef-4643-86b6-305912317509 01:08:47.010 --> 01:08:49.266 No one goes into public service NOTE Confidence: 0.9391434 d5af1e73-7080-48ae-8206-aa910045827f 01:08:49.266 --> 01:08:50.770 thinking they'll make $1,000,000. NOTE Confidence: 0.9391434 3711704f-c7d6-46a2-bbc3-0ac363450e4f 01:08:50.770 --> 01:08:51.946 But we shouldn't have to go NOTE Confidence: 0.9391434 bb24ea38-1dee-47c3-a6ae-6c123a870831 01:08:51.946 --> 01:08:52.730 into public service thinking, NOTE Confidence: 0.9391434 c7b57858-2b72-450b-9357-32cecd069828 01:08:52.730 --> 01:08:53.978 how are we going to pay NOTE Confidence: 0.9391434 ac453582-936a-43ac-b2ed-f1ead902e1df 01:08:53.978 --> 01:08:55.130 for our bills as well? NOTE Confidence: 0.9391434 e0f252a8-86d9-416e-af53-f355a4623f43 01:08:55.130 --> 01:08:56.786 We are certainly no different than NOTE Confidence: 0.9391434 6da680d1-0388-431a-b804-ee03e8096c38 01:08:56.786 --> 01:08:58.740 litigants that come before us in terms NOTE Confidence: 0.9391434 b8104db6-fd63-48ae-a96a-fb82efa53919 01:08:58.740 --> 01:09:01.140 of trying to make our our ends meet. NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 3b93bfa0-eae6-48ed-b587-a5dcfb7653e7 01:09:04.420 --> 01:09:05.725 Something that I've seen personally NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 7416271b-9d1e-4c0d-a503-067ca035cc44 01:09:05.725 --> 01:09:07.976 in my role as the president of the NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 7067c2e4-9447-4a9a-819b-84b0f50d7430 01:09:07.976 --> 01:09:09.160 Asian American Judges Association NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 4cb7201e-ab6d-4d0e-a036-702f34a648d5 01:09:09.160 --> 01:09:11.140 is that I speak to individuals. NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 4a9adf75-582b-4e29-b946-5f27cf0513a7 01:09:11.140 --> 01:09:12.808 I speak to individuals about their NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 d315cd4b-e764-429b-9570-6c86f74c0f49 01:09:12.808 --> 01:09:14.460 paths to the bench and whether NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 524ea702-c206-4fd5-8c29-54be2aae21d7 01:09:14.460 --> 01:09:16.133 or not the bench is for them. NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 7040135f-adf0-4ce4-bca7-19cd34ceb474 01:09:16.140 --> 01:09:18.028 That's an individual choice. NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 23791d32-affa-4af2-86de-4eb0368b0bc2 01:09:18.028 --> 01:09:20.860 But my my discussion with individuals NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 dfe51640-b0d2-4081-be60-5ed4df9e201e 01:09:20.935 --> 01:09:23.260 is more of here's the process here, NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 fce3eb43-fe06-4970-9b54-e92e8ab93586 01:09:23.260 --> 01:09:25.010 here's how it can happen for you. NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 fa61dcc9-997e-417e-bf07-e34f33e00adf 01:09:25.010 --> 01:09:26.492 You make that decision and we NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 c6fe6a27-bdbc-4831-97bd-11a084d0aa3b 01:09:26.492 --> 01:09:28.306 get folks who are in the private NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 94b6e636-e793-4f3c-9af1-b3780a7a6e25 01:09:28.306 --> 01:09:29.848 sector making a lot of money. NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 89722089-09fd-4fa2-89ca-fea1125a0b4f 01:09:29.850 --> 01:09:31.756 They have a good living, right? NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 040080a9-044a-44df-936a-331b3617fa30 01:09:31.756 --> 01:09:35.164 The the opening year eligibility is 10 years. NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 fcc9ec26-ff1e-4308-b1d0-0f39b70e1966 01:09:35.170 --> 01:09:36.920 Most of the judges wind up on NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 af6c3054-fe94-4813-868f-cc13aa8f739c 01:09:36.920 --> 01:09:38.704 the bench close to 20 years NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 a73b5b1f-f35c-47a8-8fc4-a778bc8d4c6c 01:09:38.704 --> 01:09:40.004 after experience like myself. NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 87cc4cd3-5771-45e4-9429-0a930e2a5ca9 01:09:40.010 --> 01:09:41.935 That's a real big that's that's a NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 30e26b91-c2d7-4f7e-844f-28dd77dfa60d 01:09:41.935 --> 01:09:43.872 real big sacrifice financially, right? NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 58ce4a62-7bac-4a9d-b354-8cdc0991d119 01:09:43.872 --> 01:09:47.018 Those who are in the the public NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 87ed7617-a97a-4901-8039-01c3fc2424ed 01:09:47.018 --> 01:09:49.450 sector District Attorney's office, NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 298f48e0-f9cb-4840-8985-62eb0b4b23be 01:09:49.450 --> 01:09:51.457 the legal aid or as myself I was once NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 66c155fa-a2e0-4992-b64f-d01794d57067 01:09:51.457 --> 01:09:53.408 an Assistant Corporation council. NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 74079267-15cc-48b6-9b91-a31ba3a02311 01:09:53.410 --> 01:09:54.910 I know we have assistant NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 84891db5-2a05-408a-8186-0de6d8653148 01:09:54.910 --> 01:09:56.410 corporation council on the panel. NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 b64a756d-82a9-453e-a2f1-5903f2fe104d 01:09:56.410 --> 01:09:57.700 You have to make that decision NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 606380c8-94e7-4341-8771-6c915929af46 01:09:57.700 --> 01:09:59.090 whether or not you have to go. NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 9c43dc8e-5c7b-4a82-b06e-54f590ef6c8a 01:09:59.090 --> 01:10:01.244 So we have this discussion and NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 265287dd-3fa4-4407-8e31-d85b0348a2bd 01:10:01.244 --> 01:10:03.116 and I go back and forth with folks NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 83c15a11-4742-4421-b06e-549194fb9a66 01:10:03.116 --> 01:10:04.778 about why I think the bench is NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 42822cbe-7265-4975-82de-6842886ecc57 01:10:04.778 --> 01:10:06.620 great and I'm and and and this has NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 0936dea8-f467-44f9-93eb-f5290561e586 01:10:06.620 --> 01:10:08.358 happened more than once and it's NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 207f1bdd-19f1-4c02-86a8-9636b3daf5e4 01:10:08.358 --> 01:10:09.806 heartbreaking when someone stops me NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 6fc1f611-583f-4a44-84d8-2e82bf460f69 01:10:09.806 --> 01:10:11.819 during my pitch to why they should NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 05eb3f65-841f-4dbd-b83e-a4d0601eadd1 01:10:11.819 --> 01:10:14.043 join the bench and they tell me Shaw, NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 284d0dfa-697e-4cc3-8ea7-ca9ed7001462 01:10:14.050 --> 01:10:15.890 I literally cannot afford to NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 90d48729-2508-46e9-be77-ecce07357af2 01:10:15.890 --> 01:10:18.240 join the bench at this point. NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 0e771390-6fc6-4c01-95c5-3f314fa80a0c 01:10:18.240 --> 01:10:20.496 I literally cannot afford and that's NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 06bcf3a7-c61d-4c61-8be5-e5c845339269 01:10:20.496 --> 01:10:22.759 when my pitch stops because it would NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 18f4bd3d-b29e-40b9-910f-fd5032d0d478 01:10:22.759 --> 01:10:24.854 be unconscionable for me to say I want NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 74d5771a-9928-4faa-a5eb-f8a63dd5973c 01:10:24.854 --> 01:10:26.716 you to put yourself in this position. NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 bbdb06ba-fc52-46ee-95d2-f0a0316e2f29 01:10:26.720 --> 01:10:28.334 We're not Attrition is not really NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 d53e8bdd-9b73-417b-8623-6ad6a9d32e8c 01:10:28.334 --> 01:10:29.898 our issue because we've been on NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 ba0f0f4b-72dd-4345-8e2a-17ff3927fb6f 01:10:29.898 --> 01:10:31.438 the bench for less than six years. NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 a07e046a-6f3e-46a2-bdbd-e53e79a61fca 01:10:31.440 --> 01:10:34.576 The real issue is attracting judges, NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 f28255ac-0d6a-4b43-8f72-ef2b1a155ae8 01:10:34.576 --> 01:10:36.352 attracting folks to come in Our NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 86f35012-b824-4dec-a912-745c72e14b58 01:10:36.352 --> 01:10:37.560 ranks will never grow. NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 1b74e468-9602-44e9-9ddc-4e1d3834f6b1 01:10:37.560 --> 01:10:39.438 In fact we've lost three judges. NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 c99ab7a5-5183-485e-a1d8-cd466db50259 01:10:39.440 --> 01:10:41.816 Our ranks will not grow unless NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 ad14c06c-c879-4beb-b43d-aeec1b1d5dc3 01:10:41.816 --> 01:10:44.918 it's a unless it is is financially NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 ddb331bb-1677-4464-bf85-1743815283d6 01:10:44.920 --> 01:10:48.110 attractive to get the best. NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 363bffec-66ad-485f-87ea-2070ebc7ee74 01:10:48.110 --> 01:10:49.923 When I was inducted in 2018, NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 5cbf4c58-7270-4bfd-9a97-a8ea74c5d97f 01:10:49.923 --> 01:10:51.588 my mother was still alive. NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 86945a63-d25d-4382-b87f-dc10b1a9a236 01:10:51.590 --> 01:10:53.278 When I was abducted in 2018, NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 2b31f0e9-cfc6-4514-89e0-e89195b2ebb9 01:10:53.278 --> 01:10:56.670 I had that moment with a parent where I said, NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 23d4a06e-5158-4dd8-963f-ee698c70d42f 01:10:56.670 --> 01:10:59.070 mom, did you ever think I would be a judge? NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 1bcafb7c-8289-4b7d-9c3e-25f4a0d35494 01:10:59.070 --> 01:10:59.770 And she said no, NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 e4be6a11-d761-46c1-a09f-94a425b481b2 01:10:59.770 --> 01:11:01.110 I never thought you'd be a judge. NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 6fa9b1ce-0216-4465-bfdf-e405dd82abaf 01:11:01.110 --> 01:11:01.668 And I said, NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 b55a64e3-5d7c-4b46-9739-45a71bde9e58 01:11:01.668 --> 01:11:03.430 well that wasn't the answer I was expecting, NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 98f57f8d-cae8-46a5-9850-1b5215d90bbb 01:11:03.430 --> 01:11:04.630 but why did you think that? NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 34b9d931-131c-4964-bf30-ba8e316ff255 01:11:04.630 --> 01:11:05.149 She said, well, NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 3c1d4bb4-8168-4427-82cd-a5438efb52ac 01:11:05.149 --> 01:11:06.187 when we came to this country, NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 b6b94a1f-5fae-4872-abc2-415a35c64d27 01:11:06.190 --> 01:11:08.470 judges were viewed as being the rich folks, NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 f9dd86fe-7c8b-413d-968a-195f91f661bc 01:11:08.470 --> 01:11:09.217 the the the, NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 9903f1ef-6a38-4709-b8ab-ffde7ca4e6b6 01:11:09.217 --> 01:11:10.711 the Jewish share base where the NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 e9d9928b-6fbb-4b30-b572-16ee37c5b9b6 01:11:10.711 --> 01:11:11.470 rich would go. NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 37babec5-2db0-40a1-bb08-8fe6d1930a8b 01:11:11.470 --> 01:11:13.640 We've luckily debunked that myth that you NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 398a4d87-fd72-4805-be22-12264c5d77a8 01:11:13.640 --> 01:11:16.385 do not have to be rich to be on the bench. NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 6be96137-faaf-44a5-bcf4-4816e1e78afe 01:11:16.390 --> 01:11:17.874 But have we really? NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 e299be8b-d338-4b27-9fcc-f5b182ae77e6 01:11:17.874 --> 01:11:18.987 Without this raise, NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 390b1266-80c8-4d45-bbf2-8240cca3c125 01:11:18.990 --> 01:11:20.802 the bench is only comprised of NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 417b14c9-20fa-4ff1-9854-69fcbc271c2f 01:11:20.802 --> 01:11:22.274 those who are able, NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 f6fd7760-dbd2-497a-8428-3299829d70de 01:11:22.274 --> 01:11:26.786 talented and can financially afford to do so. NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 04e2b2fa-8266-4f2d-9f7d-261dbe261c5c 01:11:26.790 --> 01:11:28.561 Going back to the point of maintaining NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 c43e21a3-9c16-4850-9c8a-197edd709c65 01:11:28.561 --> 01:11:30.148 the integrity of our court system, NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 c83a6d9b-4152-43ed-a921-3bc5e4541ab1 01:11:30.150 --> 01:11:32.222 we cannot get to the point where NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 d8956024-206c-4d38-adcc-10ca840a86ab 01:11:32.222 --> 01:11:34.273 our bench is only comprised of NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 829a1df9-debb-4892-95c5-cd15e37ff084 01:11:34.273 --> 01:11:36.463 those who can financially do so. NOTE Confidence: 0.93215036 2c81ac65-104e-45eb-8bbf-911b38e8120c 01:11:36.470 --> 01:11:38.470 There is a large population, NOTE Confidence: 0.9314208 113a6426-d4a4-4ad9-8a85-8d72ff095970 01:11:38.470 --> 01:11:41.993 close to 13 to 14% of our population NOTE Confidence: 0.9314208 63e0cae5-73da-412f-a16b-f32457cbb647 01:11:41.993 --> 01:11:45.100 that is eager to be on the bench. NOTE Confidence: 0.9314208 21dafb05-1cd9-4f82-b68d-8817b6e1efc4 01:11:45.100 --> 01:11:47.137 I've never once met someone who said, NOTE Confidence: 0.9314208 da6bdf27-d7a1-4025-9bd9-c959563ba77b 01:11:47.140 --> 01:11:49.012 who had a desire to be on the bench, NOTE Confidence: 0.9314208 68076be8-de1e-4522-b11b-5e4e2304fe44 01:11:49.020 --> 01:11:50.620 who said I don't want to be on the bench. NOTE Confidence: 0.9314208 204eb41c-bbbd-4dd7-9283-c72ce850eee6 01:11:50.620 --> 01:11:51.424 It's other reasons. NOTE Confidence: 0.9314208 9c97cc97-bda0-46f3-861e-44d56510e975 01:11:51.424 --> 01:11:53.300 And I and I asked this Commission NOTE Confidence: 0.9314208 ee5cf062-bce7-4fb9-bcdd-6a4780b434e5 01:11:53.354 --> 01:11:54.619 to really look into that, NOTE Confidence: 0.9314208 ebd9fe81-8f50-4247-9fcf-793f8391f977 01:11:54.620 --> 01:11:56.720 that finances and money should not be NOTE Confidence: 0.9314208 717700d2-9ea6-4529-ae96-253997367866 01:11:56.720 --> 01:11:58.330 that consideration and that it'll be NOTE Confidence: 0.9314208 e3557739-c83a-4d3b-b665-c3e56769f0ea 01:11:58.330 --> 01:12:00.248 my honor to submit a written a formal NOTE Confidence: 0.9314208 74230bcb-6f84-4e7f-8bd5-97f65beb6193 01:12:00.248 --> 01:12:02.216 statement on behalf of the association. NOTE Confidence: 0.9314208 46d69922-b459-4079-a378-2e41651e3313 01:12:02.220 --> 01:12:02.860 Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.9314208 d491531f-9100-4ad2-8b8d-588e0967ba60 01:12:02.860 --> 01:12:03.820 Thank you, judge. NOTE Confidence: 0.9314208 ddfd0bea-443b-4122-a1a9-6c756078cfb7 01:12:03.820 --> 01:12:04.700 Thank you for your time. NOTE Confidence: 0.93315893 5e486005-ab75-48ed-a5a2-882dbf5aeef9 01:12:07.100 --> 01:12:08.936 Our next speaker is a judge, NOTE Confidence: 0.93315893 4ac87bb1-1d74-4f1f-a8a4-3a5c8ff5a60c 01:12:08.940 --> 01:12:10.753 John Collins, President of the New York NOTE Confidence: 0.93315893 6258907f-991d-4e3e-a672-08f3668e9c43 01:12:10.753 --> 01:12:12.460 State City Court Judges Association. NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 1aa3a70e-a9f5-4e34-ba7e-0789d230cf57 01:12:20.560 --> 01:12:21.960 Honorable members of the Commission, NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 4cd2ec9c-36cf-4fd8-a0c6-6cc64a61674f 01:12:21.960 --> 01:12:23.645 thank you for allowing me NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 24697829-b709-4988-9028-2228ee845c6b 01:12:23.645 --> 01:12:24.993 to testify this morning. NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 cc4c4074-6df9-4d72-ad51-af449f88822d 01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:26.400 I'm John P Collins Junior. NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 1ff84da9-718a-452c-814e-1e5179c28514 01:12:26.400 --> 01:12:28.073 I'm a full time judge of the NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 8ecabcbe-9745-4871-9b5c-11eabd6fff6e 01:12:28.073 --> 01:12:29.160 White Plains City Court. NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 281c3e6a-a3bb-41d8-9a41-2acbd1981990 01:12:29.160 --> 01:12:30.798 I'm also the president of the NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 af701fcb-c64e-469d-88b7-21973e47d291 01:12:30.798 --> 01:12:32.647 New York City's New York State NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 6a532173-afe5-457b-b07e-17e0d3d864f4 01:12:32.647 --> 01:12:34.397 Association of City Court Judges. NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 3798228c-9b0e-458f-8dac-97fc54a0332f 01:12:34.400 --> 01:12:36.590 I represent the over 170 judges NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 772c36ba-8e61-44f9-b380-1062132f6b93 01:12:36.590 --> 01:12:39.488 that sit in our state's 61 city NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 d39efe37-2991-4b1a-a738-7c6d7bdd021a 01:12:39.488 --> 01:12:42.316 courts outside the city of New York. NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 403cebff-1d89-46f8-9b4d-7cbfb1e94812 01:12:42.320 --> 01:12:44.108 Our members sit in cities ranging NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 51cf3087-d2d8-42a5-817c-f6b08fa55765 01:12:44.108 --> 01:12:46.040 from Long Island to Plattsburgh, NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 9b9fd96c-50a4-4e9b-a64b-cd5e94e34eb7 01:12:46.040 --> 01:12:47.788 from Buffalo to Albany, NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 52410f74-062a-4470-9669-6fbe81df9cae 01:12:47.788 --> 01:12:49.973 from big cities like Syracuse NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 3951909f-28c1-4e72-9654-2b0de40cb629 01:12:49.980 --> 01:12:52.260 to small cities like Cheryl, NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 6e8b040f-f9f5-41f5-9c3e-2935997ba084 01:12:52.260 --> 01:12:54.420 from suburbs like White Plains NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 09010b0f-41ac-4541-ad14-97f861a95e7d 01:12:54.420 --> 01:12:56.580 to rural areas like Oneonta NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 32ecafaf-d7b1-4ea5-a8f5-02e1a7d0c776 01:12:56.580 --> 01:12:58.580 and every city in between. NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 cb0f03a8-eabb-43b6-a19c-fedc3376fc6d 01:12:58.580 --> 01:13:00.785 We are often the only court that NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 b3a05b1e-84ad-4fb0-b861-1fce9eaa9fcc 01:13:00.785 --> 01:13:02.699 most New Yorkers will ever see, NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 aa6ba336-195e-4d26-846f-dc0a5ab7615c 01:13:02.700 --> 01:13:04.430 and because of our close NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 3adad499-1614-44ea-b55a-29d81735af51 01:13:04.430 --> 01:13:05.814 relationship with court users, NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 1a7e0a93-9ad3-417f-84b7-b722e5936e89 01:13:05.820 --> 01:13:09.018 we are highly customer service oriented. NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 67024404-2fe4-4794-9de5-5bedf2dcb3f7 01:13:09.020 --> 01:13:10.795 I'm here today to advocate NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 32711289-ea71-4e1d-8b3e-86c1ea30a731 01:13:10.795 --> 01:13:11.860 for three proposals. NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 79581067-8e98-4825-95a9-836b1b2671ed 01:13:11.860 --> 01:13:13.664 1st, to establish parity NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 5bdd3010-bc51-4d80-a617-b9cb023c95ae 01:13:13.664 --> 01:13:15.919 among the City Court judges, NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 cbd8df2c-956b-492e-979c-c586f6ed51d4 01:13:15.920 --> 01:13:18.237 the New York City Civil court judges, NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 aa6d8793-a1db-40d9-b539-d6587ab22365 01:13:18.240 --> 01:13:20.396 the New York City Criminal Court judges, NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 c7221521-dbe0-48f4-b4d2-ae6752e87417 01:13:20.400 --> 01:13:22.997 and the Long Island District Court judges. NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 216e3484-8eab-4153-b0f1-bdc23a32ab03 01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:23.343 Second, NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 f034eed7-8ff8-4d51-85e1-e90a13ff71ea 01:13:23.343 --> 01:13:25.744 to increase the salary of Supreme Court NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 67d9f2c3-931a-4165-9bdd-ac5db2c4632e 01:13:25.744 --> 01:13:28.204 justices so that there is pay parity NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 9e1b239d-c88c-47bf-8525-6eb566882668 01:13:28.204 --> 01:13:29.919 between the Supreme Court justices NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 e802d05b-cee2-4243-9b89-26e1bb8ecd98 01:13:29.920 --> 01:13:32.116 and the Federal District Court judges. NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 1b8b1a26-89c9-4156-b9d7-8b3c4af25ad3 01:13:32.120 --> 01:13:34.178 And 3rd to implement future adjustments NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 801f92ac-013c-4134-b693-cc7644571db9 01:13:34.178 --> 01:13:36.440 so that pay parity is maintained. NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 41d129a3-9b17-4598-89c0-fa426a3bdc61 01:13:36.440 --> 01:13:37.505 As of April, NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 51e9dc4a-5383-480a-9890-2c9d40a78516 01:13:37.505 --> 01:13:39.280 first of a given year, NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 2751f1a8-222c-4cb2-9d4b-72dc32d6c5c1 01:13:39.280 --> 01:13:40.468 you've already heard much NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 28c198ee-968b-472c-8151-80d04cb95468 01:13:40.468 --> 01:13:41.953 about points two and three. NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 c99066c2-27be-4377-894c-b6b6631cf496 01:13:41.960 --> 01:13:44.088 So I'm going to concentrate in my NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 972ad065-70b9-4c75-b9f7-7ba6efed7446 01:13:44.088 --> 01:13:46.790 testimony on the first city Courts in New NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 22aef1fe-1a83-40a1-9641-1b93ea46a383 01:13:46.790 --> 01:13:48.565 York State exercise broad jurisdiction. NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 f389a315-fd38-4d19-aa07-ef2cebb6cd2d 01:13:48.570 --> 01:13:50.845 We preside over a full range of NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 fa6fbf62-3200-43be-9b5c-61a2bbab4099 01:13:50.845 --> 01:13:52.910 criminal matters including felonies from NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 1f6b9927-cb6c-497d-8733-0f02c25274fc 01:13:52.910 --> 01:13:54.966 arraignment through preliminary hearings, NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 cda9fcd6-bdb6-4e86-b68a-96ba7ed6f815 01:13:54.970 --> 01:13:57.490 misdemeanors and violations from arraignment NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 1b0149a3-3efc-450d-acd6-ebedff6176fa 01:13:57.490 --> 01:14:00.650 through plea or jury trial verdict. NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 95ae137b-2683-4b13-9163-118c520d036a 01:14:00.650 --> 01:14:02.486 We also preside over civil cases, NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 d25a8f40-07ef-4b56-8613-66887407a05e 01:14:02.490 --> 01:14:05.436 evolving disputes up to $15,000 and NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 9fc0eb78-5fed-491a-b67f-cce2d133df4b 01:14:05.436 --> 01:14:07.400 commercial and residential landlord NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 67ee70a5-bf39-43e6-bdd9-5dfcd6b2cb40 01:14:07.469 --> 01:14:09.887 tenant cases arising in our cities. NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 4253a7a5-18c7-447f-89a9-d8924d4414bd 01:14:09.890 --> 01:14:13.286 We have countywide small claims and NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 53a11497-d29f-4c5a-8920-2b771a1da38f 01:14:13.286 --> 01:14:17.480 commercial claims jurisdiction up to $5000. NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 f637c07f-b790-4f59-ac55-ab28f8b90748 01:14:17.480 --> 01:14:18.956 At the beginning of the pandemic, NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 4da38513-90ed-4506-bf86-e078ca690961 01:14:18.960 --> 01:14:19.944 in March 2020, NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 f15969be-c3e8-4f69-82da-ec28b07ddf05 01:14:19.944 --> 01:14:21.912 we were appointed as acting County NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 a8fb8c5f-3319-4709-81e9-542ba796776e 01:14:21.912 --> 01:14:23.591 Court judges and immediately NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 d4e62050-1973-4917-80de-d7b8ee4d2922 01:14:23.591 --> 01:14:25.736 called upon to conduct arraignments NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 9fa5e55e-a428-49a7-a7cc-22bffbdbc685 01:14:25.736 --> 01:14:27.840 and emergency proceedings all NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 a0a6e829-d933-47aa-a31a-862cb79bd4fe 01:14:27.840 --> 01:14:29.920 over our respective counties. NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 7702be91-f618-4880-8800-a7867f2d75a0 01:14:29.920 --> 01:14:31.864 When attorneys try to tell me that the NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 4be27962-afa2-4523-9fd0-e064322ebe26 01:14:31.864 --> 01:14:33.717 courts were closed during the pandemic, NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 e5e0c625-4774-4c30-a00d-4cc36d637ed6 01:14:33.720 --> 01:14:35.784 I briskly informed them that the NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 db600a5d-39b1-47a5-b845-d980e15689b2 01:14:35.784 --> 01:14:38.002 city courts were never closed and NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 4abc8020-9f7f-4957-be4f-92c5f5dc4a3b 01:14:38.002 --> 01:14:40.414 I was physically present in my NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 a0dd5820-2ca2-47de-baaa-b8a4dbd9a6c7 01:14:40.414 --> 01:14:42.329 courthouse starting in May 2020. NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 17bac59f-625b-48fa-ba8a-a16a74d33fa9 01:14:42.330 --> 01:14:43.735 We essentially sit as family NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 1f055f20-4085-4c8c-b57e-6791e17cc004 01:14:43.735 --> 01:14:45.910 court judges when we act as Raise NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 fd28609b-6303-45df-90f4-125fed6d4a04 01:14:45.910 --> 01:14:47.326 the age accessible magistrates, NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 dbcc65dc-332e-4052-aa91-b714358e118e 01:14:47.330 --> 01:14:49.438 often handling these immediate, NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 215c378c-6db4-4f24-ac9b-f96b04d5bf92 01:14:49.438 --> 01:14:51.546 important arraignments of adolescent NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 61e24f1f-4435-4d90-af5a-1671b13e1d6b 01:14:51.546 --> 01:14:54.167 offenders at all hours of the night. NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 9472ba5a-d3ce-428d-8c62-c5fc554cc751 01:14:54.170 --> 01:14:57.050 We also handle local ordinance violations, NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 6cb7e829-4727-4155-a425-cf4950ee8249 01:14:57.050 --> 01:14:58.422 including code, NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 4ad5c0dd-72da-4dd4-aa98-63cda918b583 01:14:58.422 --> 01:15:01.166 environmental and navigation violations. NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 d799563c-fb33-4e08-971d-bb89c067f25f 01:15:01.170 --> 01:15:02.222 In addition, NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 856ee203-ba68-4051-bc9f-f7cfdbc5ee52 01:15:02.222 --> 01:15:04.326 we adjudicate traffic violations NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 bdc2d597-cf00-4a51-9f31-3d52e09767f3 01:15:04.330 --> 01:15:05.527 and parking tickets. NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 68b99c16-984d-450b-90bf-5833e77f9e49 01:15:05.527 --> 01:15:07.921 Many of us sit in centralized NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 ead322cc-45c7-4aa5-b3da-01ac61c2f44e 01:15:07.921 --> 01:15:08.770 arraignment parts, NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 0e906026-dfbf-439d-948c-4f51f9ff7b51 01:15:08.770 --> 01:15:11.230 hearing cases on nights and weekends NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 40ce7d3b-3744-4293-a9d5-acd2b4384091 01:15:11.230 --> 01:15:13.468 from not only our own cities, NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 70bd0694-676f-4538-868f-8452933c1727 01:15:13.470 --> 01:15:15.708 but also town and village courts NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 b60c6fe1-eeb0-4366-a38d-d2bcabaf3bab 01:15:15.710 --> 01:15:17.830 in those counties as well. NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 3099fe36-d47b-4dea-947d-a30a81c4d233 01:15:17.830 --> 01:15:20.126 We are on call all day every NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 c26247c4-fb5a-40b4-aacb-d91210e9dc5b 01:15:20.126 --> 01:15:22.254 day to conduct arraignments and NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 67d68ac2-24a6-41af-aee2-d0c6af1354a5 01:15:22.254 --> 01:15:24.390 to issue search warrants. NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 88c3a711-0f89-42bc-8d0f-7221450845b7 01:15:24.390 --> 01:15:26.133 Some of us are assigned to sit NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 4ec12bbb-bb87-4127-940b-f4b4c5870bb1 01:15:26.133 --> 01:15:27.833 as acting family court or county NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 2c2d1c46-1926-4185-9525-984b0a33bd25 01:15:27.833 --> 01:15:29.540 court judges and are periodically NOTE Confidence: 0.931291 c123cad9-3fb8-412a-907a-3e8651d90740 01:15:29.540 --> 01:15:32.130 called upon to perform the duties of NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 9efb662a-69df-4d9b-84e6-3281cd349377 01:15:32.203 --> 01:15:33.827 those courts when needed. NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 096525b6-fcb4-4bef-8665-04d0c74e4b6f 01:15:33.830 --> 01:15:36.287 Many of us preside in specialty or NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 57afaafc-65da-43cb-a1b4-49c6f508ae3b 01:15:36.287 --> 01:15:38.066 problem solving courts to better NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 c04efc23-a3f1-4ce7-9bd9-ad3317fe878c 01:15:38.066 --> 01:15:40.369 respond to the needs of our litigants, NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 ef142a50-c915-495f-b756-34bdd1e699e2 01:15:40.370 --> 01:15:43.450 court users in our communities, NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 10ae4a93-cd18-4d00-aee1-e5e356c61ae4 01:15:43.450 --> 01:15:45.530 including domestic violence courts, NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 17cafb29-c904-4f99-b5b4-642501a613dd 01:15:45.530 --> 01:15:49.129 opiate courts, drug treatment courts, NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 842fc004-6cee-4dd0-af26-6fc012df220b 01:15:49.130 --> 01:15:51.802 DWI courts, veterans courts, NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 fb3df15a-3968-44cc-9cc1-072c6535b1a6 01:15:51.802 --> 01:15:53.806 human trafficking courts, NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 933f2183-0bf7-4078-a9dd-75cabab6900b 01:15:53.810 --> 01:15:55.942 and mental health courts. NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 64a79cad-da6b-438f-9a4a-74087f2d3d3c 01:15:55.942 --> 01:15:57.008 Put simply, NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 a9add129-f6ec-484d-bc34-35bcef758718 01:15:57.010 --> 01:15:58.930 the duties and jurisdictions of most NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 1a4b8f77-b5b7-4010-a1d2-1cb224bc3ea9 01:15:58.930 --> 01:16:01.417 of our courts are greater than the NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 a1f7e56f-8029-49fd-929a-e1fc5fc7b228 01:16:01.417 --> 01:16:03.317 Long Island District Courts because NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 0b4c432c-fd4f-4c6d-92f8-35e2e8143d15 01:16:03.317 --> 01:16:06.099 both Nassau and Suffolk Counties have a NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 9572aee7-3b36-4323-a28d-123bb6e70134 01:16:06.099 --> 01:16:08.059 traffic and parking violations agency. NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 ae5386be-a2e2-482c-b10c-37561d16cd00 01:16:08.060 --> 01:16:10.658 Indeed, the jurisdiction of my court, NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 9810afce-d347-4e16-8e97-c8db8351ebf2 01:16:10.660 --> 01:16:11.860 the White Plains City Court, NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 ba50f696-871d-48c2-a3ee-596f097bda86 01:16:11.860 --> 01:16:13.882 is the equivalent of not only NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 cbe37f91-44b6-4189-a537-ac5b5ba201ee 01:16:13.882 --> 01:16:15.780 three New York City Courts, NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 11915f8a-4487-4616-ad9e-1b7b36188a19 01:16:15.780 --> 01:16:17.256 the New York City Criminal Court, NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 5f133393-23ee-4a29-b388-ca61cbeccbb6 01:16:17.260 --> 01:16:19.180 the New York City Civil Court, NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 a8b3c64a-8419-46b7-bd14-ccbc4fe43965 01:16:19.180 --> 01:16:21.420 and the New York City Housing Court, NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 4c04ac9c-5a1e-46f6-a10f-503706df6873 01:16:21.420 --> 01:16:24.420 but also two New York City NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 2a70e7d5-2f5b-46cc-a347-d62a3479c6c0 01:16:24.420 --> 01:16:25.420 administrative agencies, NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 0de629b8-bae6-42d8-9c17-c6958380d698 01:16:25.420 --> 01:16:27.472 the Traffic Violations Bureau NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 0445d223-d5af-4ad8-9c50-5a5c06534148 01:16:27.472 --> 01:16:30.037 and the Department of Finance NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 fc6e3824-8b5e-4d11-984d-6623e34347f6 01:16:30.037 --> 01:16:31.859 Parking Ticket Services. NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 9bffeb9a-aee5-4657-bfa2-2c6d6d200552 01:16:31.860 --> 01:16:33.974 Judges of the Long Island District Courts, NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 d89ca364-a148-4dca-a54d-f03ea220c955 01:16:33.980 --> 01:16:35.618 the New York City Civil Court, NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 013afc6f-0ed0-4b79-ab74-cebd373d1404 01:16:35.620 --> 01:16:38.280 and the New York City Criminal Court NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 ca8e40da-0c91-4e70-9096-5185e7dc5622 01:16:38.280 --> 01:16:41.150 now earn 93% of a Supreme Court NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 ba69f5be-c311-431e-8845-421b8f3b6851 01:16:41.150 --> 01:16:42.890 Justice salary despite adjudicating NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 6bd9a82e-9955-48d9-a709-e5a382880b2b 01:16:42.890 --> 01:16:45.560 the same cases as those courts. NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 974be226-12fb-41a9-a7b0-e14083acb967 01:16:45.560 --> 01:16:48.129 A full time City Court judge outside NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 273a8e65-8a70-437a-b54e-5e53ed734137 01:16:48.129 --> 01:16:51.628 of the City of New York earns just 90% NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 6dcd6b01-d7c3-4dc3-ab52-c68719ad2049 01:16:51.628 --> 01:16:55.396 of a Supreme Court Justice's salary. NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 42c2e281-a91c-40c4-9f52-a4319747d179 01:16:55.400 --> 01:16:57.440 We City Court judges performed the NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 d828d9c6-2011-460b-87d1-1ac95ed7e955 01:16:57.440 --> 01:16:59.957 same task as District Court judges and NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 e2ec6a4b-5c9c-4d5f-b7bd-f494b0f12b0f 01:16:59.957 --> 01:17:02.456 the combination of what the New York NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 02b034a5-d118-474f-abf1-0880bc4bba00 01:17:02.456 --> 01:17:05.340 City civil and criminal courts judges do, NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 7f35a623-2405-4870-8b26-43528ee5eb0d 01:17:05.340 --> 01:17:07.895 and we are asked to preside over NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 9231a919-a688-4932-90f6-31e5102ef022 01:17:07.895 --> 01:17:09.620 even more categories of cases NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 58be1239-2a91-4614-a97c-8cdb39b7426d 01:17:09.620 --> 01:17:12.176 than all of those three courts. NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 5879d954-3958-4aa4-9d3c-feb618878d21 01:17:12.180 --> 01:17:14.958 We believe that fairness dictates that NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 b51379b3-c613-419c-89af-7eac6e944e63 01:17:14.958 --> 01:17:17.920 City Court judges should be paid the NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 d81caf16-0ca0-429e-9300-78f3cc0f43a4 01:17:17.920 --> 01:17:20.335 same as judges of the other courts. NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 4b566d34-13d6-4f22-aa1a-27320baed6bc 01:17:20.340 --> 01:17:22.685 Nowhere is this paid disparity NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 1fb92f77-6173-4700-b10d-b7beb09a0dec 01:17:22.685 --> 01:17:25.030 more evidently acute and unfair NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 bc02d23a-9a30-46bf-9fdd-a1a8346b8c20 01:17:25.113 --> 01:17:26.777 than in Nassau County, NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 357414cd-ebea-4774-80e0-caf7d92339fc 01:17:26.780 --> 01:17:28.952 where the City Court judges in NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 83a83523-bb8c-4c73-a625-cd131182931a 01:17:28.952 --> 01:17:31.454 Long Beach and Glen Cove are paid NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 7d7de293-0e7f-4148-bb5b-fc12d0e9bd45 01:17:31.454 --> 01:17:33.720 less than their District Court NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 266fd5c4-ba0f-42c5-8981-70b33f2457a9 01:17:33.720 --> 01:17:36.630 colleagues in the exact came exact NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 025b7e0f-2495-48ec-8c11-4f8b102b3115 01:17:36.715 --> 01:17:38.980 same county mere miles away. NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 1c3ab012-080a-4166-b9f1-ae2f8bb51b3a 01:17:38.980 --> 01:17:39.437 Finally, NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 5552f458-778a-4880-b142-bacb3b5ab605 01:17:39.437 --> 01:17:42.179 the prior court merger proposal of NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 ac42dd3d-dd59-455e-a43c-67b6e4748de1 01:17:42.180 --> 01:17:45.732 2022 would have combined the city NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 69c8d6d1-abae-4643-ae04-fa74c34a2211 01:17:45.732 --> 01:17:47.620 courts outside of the City of New York, NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 dcfb2eee-15e3-4cc8-8ccc-be2cfdecb4f2 01:17:47.620 --> 01:17:48.637 the district courts, NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 57ac6817-f072-4c85-8268-ead21a36aad1 01:17:48.637 --> 01:17:51.426 the New York City civil courts and the NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 7cdb9ca4-bc3d-4dda-93f2-264651fbe786 01:17:51.426 --> 01:17:53.502 New York City criminal courts into NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 767fa9de-f783-4b47-8150-d0ff5128dfcb 01:17:53.502 --> 01:17:55.890 a Municipal Court that would have NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 13dfbf1e-20b9-4dbd-b086-fda93605c554 01:17:55.890 --> 01:17:58.140 had uniform jurisdiction and duties. NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 8c6e39f6-c26b-4fe1-86a6-c3c4830813cd 01:17:58.140 --> 01:17:59.775 Though not enacted, NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 447d26ba-acce-42f7-8c08-d81c202b62cd 01:17:59.775 --> 01:18:01.955 the proposal recognized the NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 66de9c65-b782-4131-9e10-cf71c75fba94 01:18:01.955 --> 01:18:04.800 obvious that judges in these four NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 785c9991-d1ed-4c69-adab-977bc4ecd9df 01:18:04.800 --> 01:18:07.100 courts should be treated equally. NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 45aa0e5b-f060-4ac4-a777-dc10c5dcec62 01:18:07.100 --> 01:18:08.840 We respectfully ask that you NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 6d1f389a-251f-402d-b6fb-24487b45d65e 01:18:08.840 --> 01:18:10.900 adopt our proposals as your own. NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 f0262e1a-7ee2-4ab7-a510-0d2466570d48 01:18:10.900 --> 01:18:13.980 We thank you for your service and efforts. NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 fe6525db-9a07-4f41-a316-3ae0780676a0 01:18:13.980 --> 01:18:15.498 As a former City Court judge, NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 9cee401b-d33c-47b8-9eb7-03fcb7e1c100 01:18:15.500 --> 01:18:17.380 I want to thank you for your presentation. NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 173ea991-4ddb-43dc-8aff-605ffa6da638 01:18:17.380 --> 01:18:18.286 Thank you, Judge. NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 99309273-3180-438d-91f4-fc78613b461f 01:18:18.286 --> 01:18:19.796 I'm well aware you started NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 b269038e-3a90-41a5-9b36-d8e775e59dda 01:18:19.796 --> 01:18:21.260 your judicial career. I did. NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 127e2ada-b785-4d05-ae89-c93a01da70ae 01:18:21.260 --> 01:18:22.580 I was lucky to start there. NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 05af815b-e8aa-49f1-841e-c1ded4a15bcf 01:18:22.580 --> 01:18:23.860 I learned a lot. NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 a2aff5dc-e0fd-48fa-a1f8-ca8afee9bd8f 01:18:23.860 --> 01:18:24.500 Thank you, NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 0042f242-10ed-43b0-a209-47a2c4c13127 01:18:24.500 --> 01:18:24.865 Judge. NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 dda0e9ae-0124-4b36-8344-9f38a8e90cb2 01:18:24.865 --> 01:18:27.055 I'm welcome to answer any questions NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 49c77c39-30ee-4da8-8c34-f999ee8f9a0c 01:18:27.055 --> 01:18:28.510 the Commission may have. NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 ccb43a61-f435-4352-b1c1-14339519c5e3 01:18:28.510 --> 01:18:31.150 I'm trying to cut them off. NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 5f7e7593-d40e-4c0d-a713-f7a554fec89f 01:18:31.150 --> 01:18:32.230 They've been good so far. NOTE Confidence: 0.93144083 d1cd2825-0e8a-41a1-b513-4be665d46fe3 01:18:32.230 --> 01:18:32.350 So NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 ec9da7fd-c2bd-4740-a5ec-01a0ff934acd 01:18:37.630 --> 01:18:42.490 Judge Susan Shelly from the NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 0cb57254-96d7-46ed-809f-e1c947ee115e 01:18:42.490 --> 01:18:43.350 Magistrates Association. NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 ba8c565e-692c-4b65-899d-b87c7681626e 01:18:45.470 --> 01:18:45.550 Good NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 225d4889-4904-46d8-a7ee-d4b69b9d53e0 01:18:50.700 --> 01:18:52.785 morning, Chairman, Commissioners. NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 952b4960-18fe-4859-b396-f253ecf92ffa 01:18:52.785 --> 01:18:56.260 I'm Judge Susan Sullivan Vishalia. NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 91990f64-074f-4c9f-8cfe-e211ce23f62f 01:18:56.260 --> 01:18:58.820 It's an honor to be here this morning. NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 d8fbe64c-c9ad-4c7e-a569-d082b15ca126 01:18:58.820 --> 01:19:00.940 I am a town judge in the town NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 ba1dfe7c-d990-4502-aeb4-b3c8c470754f 01:19:00.940 --> 01:19:02.770 of LaGrange in Dutchess County. NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 62df6731-ecb2-4088-aa0d-c86c9cb2096b 01:19:02.770 --> 01:19:05.017 I'm also first Vice President of the NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 621a6e8b-4c4e-4c7c-b004-1827e5a654cd 01:19:05.017 --> 01:19:07.489 New York State Magistrates Association NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 661d8091-e70b-4bec-849d-a10fec846f0a 01:19:07.490 --> 01:19:09.926 and I'm representing them here today. NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 c89b1ede-65cb-43ba-adfd-5a1dd79f42a5 01:19:09.930 --> 01:19:12.722 I'm also a past president of the Dutchess NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 d3e2471c-54d1-44ea-96fe-41b0a3e2567e 01:19:12.722 --> 01:19:14.649 County Magistrates Association as well. NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 ef7322f9-9a1b-45b9-8193-5f02155e064c 01:19:14.650 --> 01:19:17.037 I've been a judge for about 7 1/2 years, NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 c5e8bf1a-f1eb-4b53-9a79-ab4762a740ff 01:19:17.037 --> 01:19:19.689 so I am here on behalf of our NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 25a8ac0c-ebb9-4181-9cf7-51c7c9b380f2 01:19:19.689 --> 01:19:21.881 organization to respectfully request NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 aee52734-ef5b-4cef-ac64-adbaae88b7d8 01:19:21.881 --> 01:19:24.930 consideration of an increase in pay NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 40145e65-8996-4e03-8e8a-0da588a802ce 01:19:24.930 --> 01:19:27.618 for the judges in the town and village NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 56e4fc24-ae46-4636-8893-d5ad9d111f83 01:19:27.618 --> 01:19:30.250 courts as it pertains to three areas. NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 4bc51d81-c2ea-4add-b207-842776b2dcc7 01:19:30.250 --> 01:19:32.150 One when they are assigned NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 8c9e4a6b-b1af-4f91-9f40-d2ab3e956608 01:19:32.150 --> 01:19:34.088 to a City Court part, NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 fe6d07c0-29cb-4759-9bce-2f59aaa27e14 01:19:34.088 --> 01:19:37.014 2 when they are assigned to another NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 623bf842-8758-40a2-bf84-9f6ed2249038 01:19:37.014 --> 01:19:40.374 town and village court and three on NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 c6ac905a-e2e5-449b-a54d-b995eea2a041 01:19:40.374 --> 01:19:43.062 the off hour arraignment ports parts. NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 d9debf80-63a7-438b-a748-93f665b16e2e 01:19:43.070 --> 01:19:46.443 There are approximately 3150 NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 e827f39c-5fb1-433b-9e4d-945da3fc2ad1 01:19:46.443 --> 01:19:48.441 judges and justices of the New NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 119e8ac8-a72f-4728-b66b-87eff4c1696e 01:19:48.441 --> 01:19:50.309 York State Unified Court system. NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 2b546fc7-8b41-49b9-888c-aa947e8a0914 01:19:50.310 --> 01:19:53.436 Approximately 1800 are Justices of the NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 615a503a-b6a0-4690-89ad-e721d748722a 01:19:53.436 --> 01:19:56.788 Town and Village courts and I do echo. NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 f704f78c-6e24-4635-9256-6492a04cf8d8 01:19:56.790 --> 01:19:58.752 I'm here with Judge Collins of NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 7d20e7d8-5b1e-431b-9c29-6b61ff34411e 01:19:58.752 --> 01:20:00.790 the City courts has set forth. NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 9a88c00a-0e7c-400a-93c9-4e42320ff5fd 01:20:00.790 --> 01:20:02.344 Because many of that also applies NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 9be6fca8-3bb6-434e-a0a2-bc099b21fe24 01:20:02.344 --> 01:20:04.230 to the town and village courts, NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 c7ed5a30-7ac8-47b3-843b-d2dbc15098e9 01:20:04.230 --> 01:20:07.506 as we are the courts closest to the people, NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 c90e69d1-c7a4-4ae7-a6a6-232c8e1394cc 01:20:07.510 --> 01:20:10.667 we handle a wide variety of cases NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 cef2b6f8-6d00-4c36-bea2-a5bcef7df95b 01:20:10.670 --> 01:20:12.665 from criminal matters that we NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 e3f4405c-d642-4545-a50a-496cd00ebe54 01:20:12.665 --> 01:20:15.030 are available 24 hours a day, NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 184ac2da-709e-4190-a189-0b667f575714 01:20:15.030 --> 01:20:19.630 seven days a week, 365 days a year. NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 b9fc8dfe-d43f-4c59-8be8-ab8b1c59791b 01:20:19.630 --> 01:20:22.288 Although that we are considered parttime NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 32ec03e5-57ab-4b6a-8aea-937c8701a06e 01:20:22.288 --> 01:20:25.790 judges and paid by our local governments. NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 cf19ea72-a174-49da-b139-b021e4f090b8 01:20:25.790 --> 01:20:28.128 Typically it's a small fraction of the NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 8da024d2-34fc-4d1e-bff4-74c3e99ecbdf 01:20:28.128 --> 01:20:30.508 salaries given to the state paid judges, NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 fc5e7f46-264a-41e3-9936-7f75078f0b58 01:20:30.510 --> 01:20:33.930 some as low as $4000 a year as if NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 2259322a-9927-422c-86df-28d5e1b7eb2a 01:20:33.930 --> 01:20:38.910 you can imagine for being available NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 5ab4a2eb-c3d6-41d8-a1b8-b23e742de2b3 01:20:38.910 --> 01:20:40.630 24/7 365 days a year. NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 221e2bc5-2752-4863-b0d3-ac87be8fa553 01:20:40.630 --> 01:20:43.549 And we also sit as accessible magistrates NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 522cc03f-1dcb-4d91-83d7-cca6027262fc 01:20:43.549 --> 01:20:46.629 when the family court is not in session. NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 5593838a-1244-49d8-842e-2d1fa789e182 01:20:46.630 --> 01:20:48.390 There are many responsibilities NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 a9717b4e-4d66-4dc6-be67-d93ca5ba914c 01:20:48.390 --> 01:20:51.030 of the Town and Village Courts. NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 f294471c-aa67-4dc4-afee-6da295989fc8 01:20:51.030 --> 01:20:53.100 When a Town and Village Court NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 89507a16-d023-4842-8ccd-f693c2df4a13 01:20:53.100 --> 01:20:54.900 judge is assigned to City Court, NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 2542a224-1cdc-418b-83d1-bce132d1c682 01:20:54.900 --> 01:21:00.020 they by statute receive $250 NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 9e05515d-4d08-4b55-95e2-e29ed59ba93a 01:21:00.020 --> 01:21:04.684 per day or $125 per half day. NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 a0203ca8-2f3c-4b74-a9ea-0623a9fd61f6 01:21:04.684 --> 01:21:07.626 When they are assigned to a town and NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 b998eb65-c536-4e37-a1d3-5fd96aa5ed73 01:21:07.626 --> 01:21:10.377 village court other than a City Court, NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 fd86d9aa-d93a-4faf-ba67-66f9a4324e30 01:21:10.380 --> 01:21:12.473 they are only paid in the event NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 382b02a4-763d-4970-b106-881aa320c625 01:21:12.473 --> 01:21:14.938 that if it's a result of the death, NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 4bf1ab77-0e98-4583-9cea-db9227b0e277 01:21:14.940 --> 01:21:17.240 disability or other incapacity NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 09e38dc7-8083-4d94-82bf-5d38f9752f26 01:21:17.240 --> 01:21:20.690 of a justice and that receiving NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 7c26d37b-a978-4dd5-8afa-7be8bd45beed 01:21:20.786 --> 01:21:23.368 court or a vacancy in that office. NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 5d2df714-7ba9-4d21-8819-e82c77b348ea 01:21:23.370 --> 01:21:24.586 So in other words, NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 ff1b48b1-4e3e-4872-a0bd-f7abf517b88f 01:21:24.586 --> 01:21:26.810 if you are assigned to that court NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 d0259c64-85a8-4dff-ad44-ab244a9a5b9e 01:21:26.810 --> 01:21:29.050 for a case that there is a conflict NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 b8739068-9c0e-4da3-86cc-516354b215f5 01:21:29.050 --> 01:21:30.888 and that happens many times, NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 27cf9c7f-cd9b-4cdd-a139-95b1804269ad 01:21:30.890 --> 01:21:33.330 there is no additional compensation NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 0b8ae240-0833-47d8-a0f0-937e10ab57fd 01:21:33.330 --> 01:21:35.130 for the judges. NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 c66893a1-5596-419a-b329-f84fbd3cd812 01:21:35.130 --> 01:21:36.330 Also similarly, NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 54bb69a2-bd68-417f-bd0d-d2ecfb875927 01:21:36.330 --> 01:21:38.330 in the centralized arraignment part, NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 4712c87a-f625-4961-90a4-aa37c245e17b 01:21:38.330 --> 01:21:41.050 the pay structure is similar, NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 b82ea221-0f73-44a6-91f4-466b9851a88f 01:21:41.050 --> 01:21:45.570 $250 per day or $125.00 for a half a day. NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 9549bb9c-e4fb-42a5-8d6b-0fe12cd18fcc 01:21:45.570 --> 01:21:46.530 And if you do the math, NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 e62f7b56-e283-42e4-bf64-5b7ef36ebae0 01:21:46.530 --> 01:21:49.773 I'm sure you can see that in NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 702d0375-eb93-4dd7-877b-8330b5c1b332 01:21:49.773 --> 01:21:52.238 comparison to City Court judges NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 63c0fc8c-b0d6-43bd-8bc6-7c60609e17d7 01:21:52.238 --> 01:21:54.548 and we respectfully request that NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 586b7d80-f452-49a5-94ff-316b2e39d14e 01:21:54.548 --> 01:21:56.618 that consideration that there be NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 c8c22ed8-999b-40a1-843e-cacea52d1b3d 01:21:56.618 --> 01:21:59.317 an increase in that for our judges, NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 ed90e0bc-ffd6-4191-be51-2f6282d0af0e 01:21:59.320 --> 01:22:03.400 town and village judges also thirdly NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 02c02fdb-e53c-4b75-88e7-7c3cb299de6d 01:22:03.400 --> 01:22:06.760 should be considered for full retirement. NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 363ae8c6-7611-428f-8463-b502cad07811 01:22:06.760 --> 01:22:09.440 We respectfully request that consideration. NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 d638c0c0-b569-4484-963b-96ec070babed 01:22:09.440 --> 01:22:09.845 Presently, NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 294c4e33-ddae-4cac-bb6d-61c6abc7e4cf 01:22:09.845 --> 01:22:13.085 it is based on a percentage of the NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 fc203102-1123-4597-aa01-7829647d2cd0 01:22:13.085 --> 01:22:15.892 hours that the judge works and that NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 28d0a40e-a1f2-488b-8650-d1f6f395048d 01:22:15.892 --> 01:22:18.038 also is done on a yearly basis. NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 fef0bbd2-5a28-49ae-846b-5094a1eb0ce3 01:22:18.040 --> 01:22:20.206 And the judges may also perform NOTE Confidence: 0.9009445 6f398c1e-2a43-45bc-8378-ed85a6012b88 01:22:20.206 --> 01:22:21.650 many hours that are NOTE Confidence: 0.936641723076923 81857949-ca42-4e60-a500-ebe9252f33e6 01:22:21.725 --> 01:22:22.928 outside of court, NOTE Confidence: 0.936641723076923 a4e20e2a-7571-4f14-bdb9-9404d77e3866 01:22:22.930 --> 01:22:24.610 as I'm sure you can imagine, NOTE Confidence: 0.936641723076923 fcef96e3-5d7f-427e-8141-32f98c3261f1 01:22:24.610 --> 01:22:26.914 researching cases, rendering decisions. NOTE Confidence: 0.936641723076923 efb59155-108e-48a9-8f9d-5b6970550712 01:22:26.914 --> 01:22:30.370 The town and village courts provide NOTE Confidence: 0.936641723076923 4ab3f429-5a1b-492a-bafa-7ce7e919a696 01:22:30.456 --> 01:22:32.930 a great service 24 hours a day, NOTE Confidence: 0.936641723076923 fa4e7a78-8d1e-44ff-9158-681582a88c12 01:22:32.930 --> 01:22:36.066 seven days a week, 365 days a year. NOTE Confidence: 0.936641723076923 a0867a6b-f49b-4c3e-ae78-0385312f6b42 01:22:36.066 --> 01:22:37.882 We respectfully request your NOTE Confidence: 0.936641723076923 ae0055c9-84b3-4e56-a2f5-6a4c8b5cef4e 01:22:37.882 --> 01:22:39.290 consideration here today. NOTE Confidence: 0.936641723076923 ba2f73c0-2c6e-4194-917b-b5c4f6b41b06 01:22:39.290 --> 01:22:41.090 Thank you for the opportunity to be here. NOTE Confidence: 0.936641723076923 2b18b5fa-f40b-4bf1-ac05-707da7a5ee86 01:22:41.090 --> 01:22:43.088 Thank you, Judge. NOTE Confidence: 0.936641723076923 5235204d-b959-46ab-b469-a0d5e2311488 01:22:43.090 --> 01:22:46.048 Our next speaker is Adrian Koch, NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 ff89e292-127d-4230-82d0-0b6d4276fa95 01:22:48.600 --> 01:22:51.666 who's the president of New York NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 395e8715-19eb-4ae3-b8e6-dbe7298c20a6 01:22:51.666 --> 01:22:53.199 County Lawyers Association. NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 1c7c4f97-d71d-4754-babc-c589696c401c 01:22:53.200 --> 01:22:53.839 Good morning, ma'am. NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 93a94ced-943e-4afd-81fb-d62d464463a0 01:23:00.550 --> 01:23:01.366 Good morning. NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 614e9828-5b93-4a3b-84ac-1c5a103486f1 01:23:01.366 --> 01:23:02.998 Judge Fahey and distinguished NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 13aa4b51-5540-41c8-8a96-010268cf1c67 01:23:02.998 --> 01:23:04.630 members of the Commission. NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 551962eb-40e1-480c-8344-13af8e179881 01:23:04.630 --> 01:23:06.640 I'm Adrian Koch, president of the NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 738c1371-1c39-4a54-807e-fae2a5f916da 01:23:06.640 --> 01:23:08.750 New York County Lawyers Association. NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 291d9297-5627-4c85-b450-c64938215c1e 01:23:08.750 --> 01:23:10.694 Thank you for the opportunity to NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 4c2494ec-4f79-413c-9e20-2d02539967d6 01:23:10.694 --> 01:23:12.590 testify here on behalf of NYCLA, NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 3704e8bb-8829-4a76-a025-594880c22ec3 01:23:12.590 --> 01:23:16.146 a Bar Association of over 5000 members. NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 2ee5f69c-d420-410e-9d90-c69fe940ea4c 01:23:16.150 --> 01:23:18.622 Among the core values emphasized in NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 071736f9-9612-4022-9e81-cd6a84c35178 01:23:18.622 --> 01:23:20.848 Nycla's mission statement are promoting NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 94c27e87-2512-4f19-b716-a10ae6a016f8 01:23:20.848 --> 01:23:22.880 the administration of justice, NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 5f50aceb-df0e-466c-82e9-93d72f577e0b 01:23:22.880 --> 01:23:25.200 ensuring equal access to justice, NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 f31cb5f1-f2ea-4dce-a655-3b3bc8aaafad 01:23:25.200 --> 01:23:27.625 and advocating for a strong NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 7e0b591e-f85f-4dd5-a60b-cd3bf27d4440 01:23:27.625 --> 01:23:29.080 and independent judiciary. NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 340dd4cb-6da8-4723-92ab-a1d8d79aabfc 01:23:29.080 --> 01:23:31.390 That's why we submitted an amicus brief NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 cf4c6032-3272-4ea9-b650-311a08d9e06e 01:23:31.390 --> 01:23:33.639 in Larrabee versus Governor of New York, NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 c1b2034f-ddb7-4a6a-a854-3ec5549d910a 01:23:33.640 --> 01:23:36.072 in which the New York Court of Appeals NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 bfb76142-dcea-4ed8-8410-db5c824fc958 01:23:36.072 --> 01:23:38.628 ruled in 2010 that the structural NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 7c5058e7-14db-46d6-bb8c-55cf0d7f8dee 01:23:38.628 --> 01:23:41.063 independence of the judiciary requires NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 712ded8c-be85-43f0-b22b-45b28311d5b1 01:23:41.063 --> 01:23:43.623 its compensation to be considered NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 6442ba01-8201-4570-8ec6-38c56084af32 01:23:43.623 --> 01:23:46.123 independently and on the merits. NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 13d33b6e-56da-4d88-bbbf-7afad171f441 01:23:46.130 --> 01:23:47.770 It's against that backdrop that NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 92b48743-ae8b-48c9-aa5c-3fc4414b8171 01:23:47.770 --> 01:23:50.203 I come here today on behalf of NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 29342fec-ed66-4472-acdc-ad0531ab6dc4 01:23:50.203 --> 01:23:52.363 NYCLA to urge the Commission to NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 c6718d4e-5ca6-4d55-ab6e-e4d4d7bfd614 01:23:52.363 --> 01:23:54.691 recommend steps that will enable the NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 0351a9eb-f63f-444d-9389-2f70a3debe56 01:23:54.691 --> 01:23:56.616 compensation of our state's judiciary NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 17282b17-489c-4324-a932-24cd77989368 01:23:56.616 --> 01:23:59.370 to regain and retain parity with NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 7a0334b8-bf93-40e7-a053-2287b7dc5e41 01:23:59.370 --> 01:24:01.730 that of its federal counterparts. NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 0d7c9b9a-8eae-4611-af45-95b477b8f378 01:24:01.730 --> 01:24:04.236 We believe that such parity is essential NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 4a0d9ad5-1701-4526-ba81-478521ee0a07 01:24:04.236 --> 01:24:06.807 in the service of all of those goals. NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 e90c48f0-1100-421f-925e-1d49b52ba5bc 01:24:06.810 --> 01:24:08.448 Administration of justice, NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 168de662-78e6-4b0e-afa4-da883c4416bf 01:24:08.448 --> 01:24:10.086 access to justice, NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 7641acdf-7cff-45d9-8a46-3392436cf55e 01:24:10.090 --> 01:24:11.458 and judicial independence. NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 acc5d68d-d11e-402d-83bf-069900cd0d57 01:24:11.458 --> 01:24:13.738 The impact on administration and NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 37106c9e-2032-41ec-97fb-b33586d40766 01:24:13.738 --> 01:24:16.508 access to justice is straightforward. NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 e5df9702-ed8d-4827-bb5a-197c13a758d0 01:24:16.510 --> 01:24:18.022 This commission's 2015 report NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 3b012e65-98db-4782-934c-0c55eb3a344e 01:24:18.022 --> 01:24:20.778 noted that the salary of a New NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 e2aa433c-fbfd-42b3-9c35-feaca1f59d4d 01:24:20.778 --> 01:24:22.853 York State Supreme Court Justice NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 b51b102d-26c7-4fae-97a4-7d6b5ee7c04c 01:24:22.853 --> 01:24:25.334 ranked 47th nationally among trial NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 22d586f3-61b9-4dcc-b007-5d46199f948d 01:24:25.334 --> 01:24:27.398 courts of general jurisdiction NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 4b8a2e7e-8a3a-4f58-9bae-931e51c1cffb 01:24:27.398 --> 01:24:29.867 when adjusted for cost of living. NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 94dc85c8-07da-49d2-91da-a86cf714c9c1 01:24:29.870 --> 01:24:31.622 Thanks in large part to the NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 5a1f9083-0ac8-4c66-a2cd-5556fc56c803 01:24:31.622 --> 01:24:32.790 work of this Commission, NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 1a6931b0-3de0-4ac9-b3f1-1483418d68c2 01:24:32.790 --> 01:24:35.028 we've come a very long way. NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 fd23906a-29e7-4fd7-822d-6748710f7750 01:24:35.030 --> 01:24:37.442 According to statistics published by the NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 c92208df-e9b4-44ea-a49c-a179f2d994a8 01:24:37.442 --> 01:24:40.137 National Center for State Courts in 2023, NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 06da4923-b0bd-4077-97c1-42c37bb07abf 01:24:40.137 --> 01:24:44.340 our cost of living adjusted rank is now 12. NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 1123d6b6-0aa4-4c10-88cf-c91e794b86b7 01:24:44.340 --> 01:24:45.964 That's a vast improvement, NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 32d6730b-b134-43be-9225-be4279a8408b 01:24:45.964 --> 01:24:48.779 but we respectfully submit that it's not NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 b6b62aba-7835-4810-8909-4b23a28ff506 01:24:48.779 --> 01:24:51.299 good enough for the judges of our state, NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 2f0cd435-37be-406b-a082-63ab8da5b67c 01:24:51.300 --> 01:24:54.372 whom we call upon to handle ever increasing NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 4fce5ca1-4ac3-4839-8849-3130e977aed5 01:24:54.372 --> 01:24:56.579 dockets with stretched resources. NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 d1078a0e-2a34-4401-91ff-c927f3ac66cd 01:24:56.580 --> 01:24:58.890 And to do so in a way that not only NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 902e1627-bab6-4256-b565-2a597ef40ff6 01:24:58.956 --> 01:25:01.910 assures access to justice for our state's NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 1094596c-8294-4763-8be2-17b8a104bf11 01:25:01.910 --> 01:25:04.500 large and tremendously diverse population, NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 2814fd9b-d6ea-49b9-a3f7-d0de74c992c4 01:25:04.500 --> 01:25:07.224 but also maintains New York's position NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 f1708887-e836-4149-8735-5811183a920c 01:25:07.224 --> 01:25:10.038 as the commercial capital of the world. NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 06ff2de4-1ff6-49a8-8b45-bbdc61f8fde8 01:25:10.040 --> 01:25:11.560 Adjusted for cost of living, NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 7673732a-c395-44cd-8d06-53c97919d008 01:25:11.560 --> 01:25:14.045 the compensation of our judges lags behind NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 bb9affad-b018-45e5-ab94-f14e80f9bab5 01:25:14.045 --> 01:25:16.759 that of their counterparts in Arkansas, NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 9457d973-aef0-42e7-9971-7d9e5c20e2b2 01:25:16.760 --> 01:25:18.280 Georgia, Montana, NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 b9d3366b-1177-4f38-84cb-db79a723f481 01:25:18.280 --> 01:25:20.560 Pennsylvania, and Utah, NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 b96ba149-94e3-4e75-9d08-3d4aa8c96b35 01:25:20.560 --> 01:25:22.440 just to name a few. NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 75a75f9a-8ebf-4630-9dad-630c204614bb 01:25:22.440 --> 01:25:23.014 Of course, NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 e0776eea-62ee-4506-bcaa-8a6d3c23ea94 01:25:23.014 --> 01:25:25.023 I mean no disrespect to the judiciary NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 f0f78935-b854-4709-a15d-a1ac9b99a617 01:25:25.023 --> 01:25:27.388 at any of those places who undoubtedly NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 d60b712f-f4f4-4c64-b5ad-1fe0ca4724dd 01:25:27.388 --> 01:25:29.080 deserve every penny they earn, NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 1ad8d28d-8e71-4f35-a8e5-c201a83f87e3 01:25:29.080 --> 01:25:30.295 and probably more. NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 ffeb490d-45ce-4b1f-9379-51cefec98b0a 01:25:30.295 --> 01:25:33.130 But given the heavy caseloads and complex NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 188fcc6c-6ef6-4485-a37d-76ae709178e7 01:25:33.198 --> 01:25:35.556 dockets that our own judges manage, NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 e9f2ceb9-6d39-4c9e-8489-4efea421be72 01:25:35.560 --> 01:25:38.518 they are at least as deserving. NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 3b284090-9b6d-4780-91a4-3914a765f1e9 01:25:38.520 --> 01:25:39.396 There's more. NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 7d6031bb-52d6-4e3b-a88b-f97191b7b44b 01:25:39.396 --> 01:25:40.710 In absolute terms, NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 08f737a0-f6d1-4c1f-b2b2-dbcd42d27946 01:25:40.710 --> 01:25:42.950 without any adjustment for cost of living, NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 600fd807-8599-40ce-9171-5067484c8211 01:25:42.950 --> 01:25:45.380 New York's judges are on a par with what NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 4abd1af8-36ba-4f62-b083-a44ccf65d4b2 01:25:45.380 --> 01:25:48.006 their federal counterparts earned in 2019. NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 07488664-4225-4cab-a409-cb3b379fb0b9 01:25:48.006 --> 01:25:50.686 Those federal counterparts have received NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 2642b35f-91dc-4a0f-948e-2a185f795285 01:25:50.686 --> 01:25:53.790 4 pay increases then since then, NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 30af7c34-06fd-4c3f-a3d1-bd55964f75b8 01:25:53.790 --> 01:25:55.350 one for every year. NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 e783d3a4-f32c-42bb-8469-a53ad305f2ba 01:25:55.350 --> 01:25:58.340 Our state judges now lag far behind. NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 8fa3e80f-d7da-4dac-80d4-0633841e26fd 01:25:58.340 --> 01:25:59.194 In fact, NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 f8c4734d-e8ed-40ec-bd26-099a5241f98b 01:25:59.194 --> 01:26:00.902 this commission's 2015 report NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 905c6c06-1643-403b-a593-8e9020fbab8e 01:26:00.902 --> 01:26:03.276 recommended raises that would fix the NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 3429a704-b278-486a-9e9e-8d6c7da9f2a2 01:26:03.276 --> 01:26:05.383 salary of a New York State Supreme NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 d1502622-4c2a-4c9d-b853-9c30c50c6282 01:26:05.383 --> 01:26:07.724 Court Justice at 95% of the salary NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 6369d1f2-3924-4922-8a3e-527c4c71d789 01:26:07.724 --> 01:26:09.740 of a federal District Court judge, NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 249182b0-cd13-4d42-951b-f89c731b3c13 01:26:09.740 --> 01:26:11.425 and would continue to close NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 dcac9cba-b744-4e3a-bc18-1d2e235b775c 01:26:11.425 --> 01:26:12.773 the gap from there. NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 c7111f65-9bce-4301-b288-0de1f574bd05 01:26:12.780 --> 01:26:14.860 In keeping with that recommendation, NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 13d25b7e-98fb-4aef-9888-3e03408ee52e 01:26:14.860 --> 01:26:15.840 by 2019, NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 5e90ff30-4d8f-4dd0-9085-3b3ef289f29d 01:26:15.840 --> 01:26:18.290 our state judiciary had essentially NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 da62fcb5-ea36-478d-acbe-9b5128980861 01:26:18.290 --> 01:26:21.499 achieved parity with the federal judiciary. NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 e92c5357-9561-481f-9f3d-0d0a4de9542f 01:26:21.500 --> 01:26:22.985 That was great. NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 96199762-f00a-437f-9fbe-121e454b755c 01:26:22.985 --> 01:26:24.965 But because unlike their NOTE Confidence: 0.93841803 83679bb0-37f8-4ed8-874d-8fa997573420 01:26:24.965 --> 01:26:25.955 federal counterparts, NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 7319de87-7108-4e81-9274-b881c4a95020 01:26:25.960 --> 01:26:28.300 our state judges have no NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 a127c922-aecb-4523-8fc2-c5a6ec3bd20c 01:26:28.300 --> 01:26:29.236 compensation adjustments. NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 cad7c37e-543b-4e8c-abb9-e4790ee86e2f 01:26:29.240 --> 01:26:31.796 Since then, we have back slid. NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 13a10faf-1d37-4419-a440-98ef8cfc8c83 01:26:31.800 --> 01:26:34.416 They're back to earning less than 95% of NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 c7a4ca5e-cb35-407d-8f37-d08ff48b0ae0 01:26:34.416 --> 01:26:36.156 what their federal counterparts earn, NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 0d978cbf-6257-4980-8895-1ce0ab0178b4 01:26:36.160 --> 01:26:39.274 and in some instances it's quite a bit less. NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 a56c4c73-0d7e-46e3-b2df-5056fac9a474 01:26:39.280 --> 01:26:41.534 We don't want to lapse into the NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 7bf87dc1-b9eb-41c6-965f-2e5ed6d2cf60 01:26:41.534 --> 01:26:42.886 flatlining of judicial compensation NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 d80086e6-4f80-470a-a9ec-eabc32fa2575 01:26:42.886 --> 01:26:45.140 that occurred in the years that led NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 fca08578-88a3-4d82-b5a4-8fae5d5958d8 01:26:45.140 --> 01:26:47.459 up to this commission's creation. NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 0507531e-b8b3-44ab-815c-50fb24e04e7e 01:26:47.460 --> 01:26:49.500 But without some urgent intervention, NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 6a7eed92-92a9-4a9a-9619-63cb9f61dd31 01:26:49.500 --> 01:26:51.540 we will have exactly that. NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 ae3db696-fa02-4387-ab2a-268abb45b3fb 01:26:51.540 --> 01:26:53.340 It's only going to get worse, NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 160c1889-5c61-4c9b-ba4d-5c272ce01b93 01:26:53.340 --> 01:26:55.050 and our judges will fall NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 91c34a89-c35a-4c11-960f-fb808f051356 01:26:55.050 --> 01:26:56.418 further and further behind. NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 c5dac6aa-7f02-4b0c-a93e-0d72d0930690 01:26:56.420 --> 01:26:58.807 And let me add that these disparities NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 28052fde-24ea-4053-b857-4d2b96085bcb 01:26:58.807 --> 01:27:00.898 are especially acute in New York City, NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 7c36bb12-5ceb-4626-b4dc-0f3d499ee30f 01:27:00.900 --> 01:27:04.518 where NYCLA has its own home because of the NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 d8b0f843-01c8-4560-bb10-567387b6deae 01:27:04.518 --> 01:27:06.899 substantially higher cost of living here. NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 66f3641e-b227-4adb-bfc4-507f496117c7 01:27:06.900 --> 01:27:08.890 We understand the budgetary constraints NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 e3ae1f88-ef7a-4ad5-ba92-8cf235ac7759 01:27:08.890 --> 01:27:11.330 that brought us to this place, NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 ea636712-0e2f-4b6e-8c6e-1a69c6e80273 01:27:11.330 --> 01:27:13.738 and the Commission is quite rightly directed NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 28c7f696-66d0-4ae0-96fc-5dba542acfa5 01:27:13.738 --> 01:27:16.410 to take into account the state's ability NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 1d842ced-4db1-4f52-aeeb-0077f5f35670 01:27:16.410 --> 01:27:18.768 to fund any increase in compensation. NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 1e6ab871-364b-4350-8b4f-cd34ac74c181 01:27:18.770 --> 01:27:20.978 But that ability is only one of a NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 6b59ca21-554e-45d8-8bd9-3f4ebb822da5 01:27:20.978 --> 01:27:22.884 number of factors the Commission NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 2aff8b63-0b0c-4535-bc14-b7699033f204 01:27:22.884 --> 01:27:24.604 is directed to consider. NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 62e4dbe8-927c-4165-b32b-dc1a48263450 01:27:24.610 --> 01:27:26.746 Another of those factors is the NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 283649a2-718e-4b58-90e4-721dd69d4755 01:27:26.746 --> 01:27:28.170 national and federal comparison NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 0e0a1cf7-98f4-4f29-a4eb-f8ee9fdeaee0 01:27:28.232 --> 01:27:29.930 I mentioned a few minutes ago. NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 a1628bae-eae8-402c-903d-7dbf362d00b6 01:27:29.930 --> 01:27:30.833 Another is inflation, NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 6041d721-0f16-459a-85b4-84d7be3ab0ff 01:27:30.833 --> 01:27:33.287 which in the last four years has hit NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 2ba0dc55-2666-4355-860d-0c6b5ee955f1 01:27:33.287 --> 01:27:35.396 levels we haven't seen since the 1970s, NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 96c0e829-07a8-4c27-a906-1cb13ccbdff6 01:27:35.396 --> 01:27:37.326 while our judges have continued NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 aef4e770-5c2c-4ad6-b1d3-72a0f71a9b1e 01:27:37.326 --> 01:27:39.790 to see no salary adjustments. NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 77b6eea1-4848-435b-b13b-9aff19147f27 01:27:39.790 --> 01:27:40.216 Indeed, NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 4337baa3-3ee6-4a04-a28d-14a2fe00ff70 01:27:40.216 --> 01:27:42.772 since 2018 prices have risen A NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 d6f69bc2-d864-4482-8dae-df45a2570dbb 01:27:42.772 --> 01:27:44.790 cumulative total of over 20%. NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 aa8ef78a-0fc8-4345-898d-89573b2386e5 01:27:44.790 --> 01:27:47.513 We urgently need a mechanism to ensure NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 563cc97d-0361-4e09-99fa-38b40b94fa81 01:27:47.513 --> 01:27:50.110 that judicial pay at least keeps up NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 59a1a6d5-dfcf-43df-ab32-18ffd4b7996e 01:27:50.110 --> 01:27:52.710 with the rapidly rising cost of living. NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 a1fe040a-fe84-438a-b42f-34a3b402c582 01:27:52.710 --> 01:27:54.490 Yet another factor the Commission NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 48ccbeaf-b132-4171-989d-2ccf6c5c8de3 01:27:54.490 --> 01:27:56.813 is directed to consider is the NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 e2ee9598-4e1c-4351-a8a3-1168626d52a4 01:27:56.813 --> 01:27:58.741 compensation received by professionals NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 d0083512-a132-460c-97bd-cc821ed645f8 01:27:58.741 --> 01:28:00.187 outside of government. NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 e53a27ba-4e34-446b-b00f-876154778dd2 01:28:00.190 --> 01:28:02.630 I want to pause for a moment on that one. NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 3e7ddf02-cf89-4857-9242-f73891760ae8 01:28:02.630 --> 01:28:04.796 We all hear about how compensation NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 7092e1c4-d337-4bb0-bad7-dc27b48804da 01:28:04.796 --> 01:28:06.721 in the legal profession has NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 f5d43c92-9585-4e32-8d29-be6df20d057c 01:28:06.721 --> 01:28:08.806 skyrocketed and it's literally true NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 a618ebdc-5378-4421-a776-adf7b271a139 01:28:08.806 --> 01:28:11.210 that Supreme Court Justices in New NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 b800cc41-b6ba-44d4-b2a2-eaef5bf7b761 01:28:11.210 --> 01:28:13.226 York County currently make less than NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 81139019-812b-4b5e-aa0a-4b9748019a64 01:28:13.226 --> 01:28:15.340 first year associates at some of NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 c350b8b5-b72e-4ca5-b633-f013f09e17b7 01:28:15.340 --> 01:28:17.500 the firms that appear before them. NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 7210af19-6191-4ce2-a15a-94f488b1d1c8 01:28:17.500 --> 01:28:19.052 We recognize the government NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 5b5a3f4a-9bc3-4152-bbbf-cabb518ed5d1 01:28:19.052 --> 01:28:21.380 service is a high calling that NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 3dce8fe0-4a0f-40a3-9416-f1b193748b1e 01:28:21.451 --> 01:28:23.456 has many non monetary rewards, NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 6fa1920c-c869-4a21-b1a8-43cded619143 01:28:23.460 --> 01:28:26.470 but at the same time our judiciary NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 ed9aaed6-8e9a-482d-adb7-78c5fccf3448 01:28:26.470 --> 01:28:29.203 must pay competitive salaries in order NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 73f9518a-cf9d-4b47-80b5-edf3343ce4ed 01:28:29.203 --> 01:28:31.915 to continue to attract top talent. NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 ad2a5050-c8bf-451d-a3b4-784cc429675f 01:28:31.920 --> 01:28:33.607 This actually brings me back to the NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 e214428b-70cf-4a53-bc33-2593f48a638d 01:28:33.607 --> 01:28:35.404 third core value of nightclub that I NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 f7d60206-e7ae-4c7d-99cd-047794f74e7f 01:28:35.404 --> 01:28:37.360 mentioned at the beginning of these remarks. NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 6bb7ab8a-5795-4473-9fc4-25db3991e6bb 01:28:37.360 --> 01:28:40.520 A strong and independent judiciary, NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 020432a7-9b55-47a3-be8e-22193e6ccc48 01:28:40.520 --> 01:28:41.458 fair compensation, NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 b9359835-5c05-4d6b-b25e-b5dc8c3a57c7 01:28:41.458 --> 01:28:41.927 compensation. NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 e9458e73-7856-424b-b4c3-4e84e46e2a28 01:28:41.927 --> 01:28:44.741 That not only takes careful account NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 8cf84f4a-49cf-4f2d-9d47-d92cb338cf68 01:28:44.741 --> 01:28:47.656 of the need to continue to attract NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 23348d5e-dff8-48ab-aa73-a140c85b05ec 01:28:47.656 --> 01:28:49.688 and retain excellent jurists in NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 490c960f-7eca-47d3-a958-f9f29fec45b2 01:28:49.688 --> 01:28:51.568 an increasingly expensive world in NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 61847d38-2328-40d1-afee-e1eeed670dd1 01:28:51.568 --> 01:28:54.552 which more and more is asked of them, NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 ea823676-bffc-401a-a56c-fc2c162a2ebc 01:28:54.552 --> 01:28:56.760 but also demonstrates that we actually NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 7ae5c912-2667-42ad-9a31-f47bb3f71336 01:28:56.827 --> 01:28:59.490 place a high value on our judges that is, NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 3a9f2a52-ecc6-4fa4-a1dd-5906d663d01c 01:28:59.490 --> 01:29:00.330 in Nykla's view, NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 2cd3a69e-3363-4168-9da6-b2319f53e823 01:29:00.330 --> 01:29:02.705 essential to the strength and NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 869be915-ad45-4209-9f47-3914945bee96 01:29:02.705 --> 01:29:04.605 independence of our judiciary. NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 3442d41a-4620-44ac-9541-6d59b47ff230 01:29:04.610 --> 01:29:07.650 I want to say one more thing in that regard. NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 4bd8838c-6961-4485-b2da-ee75a4f266c4 01:29:07.650 --> 01:29:09.990 It goes without saying that a NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 b2543ad2-ccf5-4d00-ba87-554353854545 01:29:09.990 --> 01:29:11.945 strong and independent judiciary is NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 6650d7ae-57cd-4228-a1f9-5d48f8060923 01:29:11.945 --> 01:29:13.889 indispensable to the rule of law, NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 8afe3f64-16f7-4913-8519-b5a3e02561e5 01:29:13.890 --> 01:29:17.210 which in turn is vital to our democracy. NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 4ac93c1b-69b0-4002-9e71-865097111cd4 01:29:17.210 --> 01:29:19.226 But that is even more true now NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 18c45483-2f34-4279-9990-4d19b4f34023 01:29:19.226 --> 01:29:21.427 than it was when this Commission NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 609b16ef-53d1-476e-9bab-58936fa2602b 01:29:21.427 --> 01:29:23.947 completed its last report in 2020. NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 6a9ec75e-4c91-450f-8ce2-0fc25f0cbd48 01:29:23.950 --> 01:29:24.928 In recent years, NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 512f96d3-20de-4249-b172-62b844161795 01:29:24.928 --> 01:29:26.558 we've seen judges both across NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 1c287361-b2be-42e9-9238-aae1546ff58e 01:29:26.558 --> 01:29:28.786 the country and right here in New NOTE Confidence: 0.9325249 f7b231a8-449d-4e29-b32d-40abc2d6c302 01:29:28.786 --> 01:29:30.301 York come under personal attack, NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 6d473aec-fc6a-4685-a08b-4dc968374dd2 01:29:30.310 --> 01:29:32.236 not only with criticisms that are NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 5f9552ae-1342-48c1-af3e-4446b4ec941a 01:29:32.236 --> 01:29:34.496 at times vitriolic and against which NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 dd1ca981-e8e7-4435-bd1d-9d0662ca6a26 01:29:34.496 --> 01:29:36.328 judges are ethically prohibited NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 694c2c3f-8a9b-45bc-94c7-f861f5d75e4f 01:29:36.328 --> 01:29:37.702 from defending themselves, NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 d26ee1d7-b9ef-4a31-8a13-9d6139672832 01:29:37.710 --> 01:29:40.062 but also with actual threats to their NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 660715d4-ac44-4fc5-8b72-794fc3acac2b 01:29:40.062 --> 01:29:42.747 safety and the safety of their families. NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 cf2e7151-b099-48f9-82a0-d08b9b7969f3 01:29:42.750 --> 01:29:44.724 Nycla's own voice has been loud NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 cec53702-8342-425b-bb9f-04196f47ae4c 01:29:44.724 --> 01:29:46.781 among those that seek to defend NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 0acc8a13-ae35-403d-a1fb-610bd9e52345 01:29:46.781 --> 01:29:48.466 and support them with words, NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 02af953a-8b0a-458a-a2c0-af40305931e0 01:29:48.470 --> 01:29:50.857 and we believe that this is important. NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 71e4fa3b-cf5e-463d-94f7-d511288ce53a 01:29:50.860 --> 01:29:52.954 But this Commission now has an NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 56a96e1e-dabb-42ac-8e7a-c513c0e7c72e 01:29:52.954 --> 01:29:55.136 opportunity to defend and support New NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 f64eec21-69fd-425c-a857-b33e858be043 01:29:55.136 --> 01:29:57.656 York's judges with more than just words. NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 88890077-8bf0-41c6-b0c5-f3d740a3a830 01:29:57.660 --> 01:30:00.260 We strongly urge that perhaps more than ever, NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 73793d37-7b73-4914-89f2-c1f92dada398 01:30:00.260 --> 01:30:02.420 it's critical to our democracy that NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 c3af2e53-30ca-425f-a4c0-75ea72b4bc74 01:30:02.420 --> 01:30:04.245 judges be fairly compensated and NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 fbefbc99-4ecf-4165-91a7-39864610c8fa 01:30:04.245 --> 01:30:05.850 that the Commission should take NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 e734c783-585b-4586-81a0-8055b9f088c7 01:30:05.850 --> 01:30:07.789 steps toward that end by restoring NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 8f0e036b-92c4-40f6-bea1-9d87491b25b5 01:30:07.789 --> 01:30:09.577 pay parity between the judges of NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 933f3fba-2c2c-4166-bbcc-d1d118fe0ead 01:30:09.577 --> 01:30:11.888 our own courts and their federal NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 6f03e5ab-6d4e-4e6f-9536-1e55ef026833 01:30:11.888 --> 01:30:14.023 counterparts and ensuring that we NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 e15c4321-7670-4fe0-bc25-9ad388b594df 01:30:14.023 --> 01:30:16.228 retain such parity going forward. NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 b5c204d7-00a4-455b-9d2f-9c8e36c948cb 01:30:16.230 --> 01:30:17.772 Thank you again both for allowing NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 fb6036ee-8f3c-49cf-95af-a99c17384a3c 01:30:17.772 --> 01:30:19.389 nightly to be heard on these NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 c44b6f8e-1849-4477-8a6f-42b64fd41bc8 01:30:19.389 --> 01:30:20.991 critical issues and for the important NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 9cafebcd-448c-449e-954a-666f17d7ffc8 01:30:20.991 --> 01:30:22.550 work the Commission is doing. NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 41baab04-24c1-48a6-8ce8-b4f16e7f81fd 01:30:22.550 --> 01:30:24.314 And I'll also quickly add that we've NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 5ac424be-c2d6-424b-b527-7ca25783c86c 01:30:24.314 --> 01:30:25.957 submitted a written version of this NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 24a406b1-35a0-4f24-9ac3-f15aa60cfb2a 01:30:25.957 --> 01:30:27.352 testimony that contains lots of NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 e646ea58-779a-42ad-8ddf-c256f77c84d6 01:30:27.352 --> 01:30:28.755 footnotes with source material for NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 6c784ade-06ac-4cdd-b69c-666387d218ee 01:30:28.755 --> 01:30:30.345 the various data I've cited here. NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 86b7beae-59b0-4593-8004-c8ebdd3bb3db 01:30:30.350 --> 01:30:31.910 But what I really like this, NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 ca27fff1-4d0d-4b41-8012-bb21269821ae 01:30:31.910 --> 01:30:34.568 it's exactly 1130 that you hit NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 2c05c464-c39b-4297-96f3-f1c1478075af 01:30:34.568 --> 01:30:37.736 it right on the button. So you. NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 6b854021-8634-4c96-aa4c-c5d723a121f9 01:30:37.736 --> 01:30:38.988 I'm impressed by that. NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 34a06657-319f-4fd5-8259-526d9beb784c 01:30:38.990 --> 01:30:39.594 Very impressed. NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 9679623d-19b2-48da-840a-8c5a4cbe121f 01:30:39.594 --> 01:30:41.708 We're going to recess for 10 minutes. NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 eaabc7b8-6494-4fa5-8e6d-eb14323e055c 01:30:41.710 --> 01:30:43.630 Our next speaker is John Zoll. NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 958f94fd-f640-43c1-92d4-a3305db3a280 01:30:43.630 --> 01:30:44.098 You know, NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 25fbd0a8-e281-4840-aa96-1d0e1ab7e06a 01:30:44.098 --> 01:30:45.268 I just want to say, NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 8e9c8df5-ac9f-48a6-9671-c317406740e5 01:30:45.270 --> 01:30:46.002 Miss Scott, NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 e8ef445b-2244-4c70-9f05-a5acb750842f 01:30:46.002 --> 01:30:47.832 thank you for submitting your NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 11538af7-d910-43ed-8b15-a641e362571c 01:30:47.832 --> 01:30:49.920 testimony in advance so we could NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 c8344b78-f6b0-4e05-9a03-4361a4c7a67f 01:30:49.920 --> 01:30:51.470 review it before this meeting. NOTE Confidence: 0.9385183 5cad5b27-e612-4866-b107-538876c378f5 01:30:51.470 --> 01:30:52.070 My pleasure. NOTE Confidence: 0.9140199 eebba50c-ffcf-4a82-8776-d789970d5182 01:30:55.950 --> 01:30:57.870 OK, brief recess, 10 minutes. NOTE Confidence: 0.9140199 879d618d-ec2f-4756-90de-9a3f11b48972 01:30:57.870 --> 01:30:58.830 I promise only 10. NOTE Confidence: 0.9140199 b1bde341-cba8-4877-9e24-5669a0007fbc 01:31:02.630 --> 01:31:06.588 Please be seated. Our next speaker NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 f4ff27e3-d0bd-4de5-ac64-430de66bf72f 01:31:11.630 --> 01:31:13.886 is Judge John Zoll, President of NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 f9ea1566-4c4c-42c1-a536-97cd6b22dd3a 01:31:13.886 --> 01:31:15.748 the Association of Criminal Court NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 0feea259-79a4-4b36-b670-348dae61efd9 01:31:15.748 --> 01:31:17.778 Judges in the City of New York. NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 f7a8c93d-d62d-4fb8-80bf-4f99b8b9ffb2 01:31:17.780 --> 01:31:18.740 Good morning, Judge, NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 4796d372-295f-4d0f-a9bd-518aac8e881f 01:31:18.740 --> 01:31:20.780 or good afternoon, I guess almost, NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 728e94d4-960d-4d7d-b3e9-1aae9f80a121 01:31:20.780 --> 01:31:22.828 I think it's still good morning. NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 9675b35d-d009-42d4-b72d-551a348619bf 01:31:22.828 --> 01:31:24.652 And to the rest of the NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 225f48a3-8d76-4a19-b6e1-2bf55eef25a6 01:31:24.652 --> 01:31:26.299 members of the Commission, NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 8603b788-b50d-4f19-ac12-726ffd6c4cbc 01:31:26.300 --> 01:31:28.660 thank you for allowing me two or three NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 680ea654-0e32-430b-994d-7797c182b2aa 01:31:28.660 --> 01:31:30.766 minutes to address the Commission on NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 e1310dbc-2414-4770-b44b-06f6630f99dd 01:31:30.766 --> 01:31:32.938 fairly specific music to our ears, NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 be4d440e-633f-4de2-ba30-2cc6c64b4c8d 01:31:32.940 --> 01:31:33.642 fairly specific topic. NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 e2fc8436-df97-42c0-a845-45fb0b4efa8c 01:31:33.642 --> 01:31:35.740 Well then if you just want to grant it, NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 a62187ca-74c6-4b25-a4ed-8e8a14ca9478 01:31:35.740 --> 01:31:38.458 then I'll just walk away, which we could. NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 8eb2c853-ce9a-4148-9464-c6d73bd487d5 01:31:38.460 --> 01:31:39.978 So my name is John Zoll. NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 db17c118-e6e2-49e1-8ea6-dc39233805eb 01:31:39.980 --> 01:31:41.882 I'm the I'm an acting Supreme NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 73f54538-b0ee-42fd-ad38-f12920860360 01:31:41.882 --> 01:31:43.623 Court Justice sitting in Queens NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 23227450-e97f-44dc-b897-ac184f929f05 01:31:43.623 --> 01:31:45.678 County Supreme Court criminal term. NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 3070f67e-193e-4d2e-b630-51602eab3752 01:31:45.680 --> 01:31:47.675 I'm also the president of the Association NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 fa370e6e-bdab-415a-84d6-21ae8ed9b199 01:31:47.675 --> 01:31:50.039 of New York City Criminal Court Judges. NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 62d988b7-7213-4f4c-8203-4d08aba9b3d3 01:31:50.040 --> 01:31:51.664 We represent approximately 120 NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 2bde0975-167d-4879-8c8a-f347b5792b34 01:31:51.664 --> 01:31:54.100 judges who preside over matters in NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 782de364-b862-4f96-9d3b-97259d1b4aae 01:31:54.171 --> 01:31:56.385 New York City Criminal Court and NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 563131d6-f91d-4068-b3e9-dcc08c011fcd 01:31:56.385 --> 01:31:58.240 the Supreme Court criminal term, NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 d6eeccc1-158e-4f57-9b5c-3e806f5a4e71 01:31:58.240 --> 01:31:59.840 along with my fellow officers, NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 13e065bb-d5e8-4c7e-91ad-23fe37abad9d 01:31:59.840 --> 01:32:00.514 Laura Ward, NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 ddaba88c-6144-4ce2-9da4-079ede277800 01:32:00.514 --> 01:32:02.199 Mary Bejerano and Jermaine Auguste. NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 ebc59549-8d28-46b7-8e3b-0070825403fd 01:32:02.200 --> 01:32:04.480 You know we take great pride NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 51a1e0a8-35af-4c0e-90f2-1d899bfc15d7 01:32:04.480 --> 01:32:06.600 in the work that we do. NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 7fd477a4-0f48-4bcd-ac64-aa99182e4235 01:32:06.600 --> 01:32:08.220 Some of our judges who will NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 db63d5bb-85c7-4574-b707-893bd12fcf89 01:32:08.220 --> 01:32:10.083 sit in the criminal courts are NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 24035401-5d8b-4712-ba93-c8f6c39f4cc2 01:32:10.083 --> 01:32:11.535 elected civil court judges. NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 d431f25b-f38a-4f0e-8d1a-dc24be875fb5 01:32:11.540 --> 01:32:13.676 But the overwhelming number of our NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 cf97f87d-4195-42d8-901a-8e2f150b1187 01:32:13.676 --> 01:32:15.780 judges are appointed by the mayor, NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 5d54805b-0ad1-487d-9931-ffdc7bfe0260 01:32:15.780 --> 01:32:17.580 go through that vetting process. NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 3874d83c-9f5e-40c1-b3ba-3231b7eb1b0d 01:32:17.580 --> 01:32:20.532 And then at a certain point in their career, NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 16d53993-82c3-4498-a55c-af3c13cf168e 01:32:20.540 --> 01:32:22.670 it's they're hopeful that they're NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 67ddee0e-ca57-466f-aedf-e3dda2e1d16e 01:32:22.670 --> 01:32:25.025 appointed as acting Supreme Court justices NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 8ef14191-556d-447f-9119-22351d6a1df3 01:32:25.025 --> 01:32:26.950 by the deputy Chief administrative NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 16d42a62-74a8-4528-bca2-3299fc7790f4 01:32:27.013 --> 01:32:28.735 Judge of New York City courts, NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 bde3f6bc-598e-48b4-99a5-3fd822837c3c 01:32:28.740 --> 01:32:30.574 and they would then serve as an NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 54a78bb3-38ed-489d-a0bf-6ec8d3a6d7c6 01:32:30.574 --> 01:32:31.820 acting Supreme Court Justice. NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 22dbbe0d-b78e-4ff2-afee-3ca4ca2561d6 01:32:31.820 --> 01:32:33.041 At that point, NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 99ca25b7-957c-4dfb-8a7f-d916c4a3d12d 01:32:33.041 --> 01:32:35.076 they received the New York NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 c4d84932-1e27-4a53-bd8e-b4dbca6180de 01:32:35.076 --> 01:32:36.929 State Supreme Court salary. NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 7eb5f569-8dff-4684-908c-705d0675e88c 01:32:36.930 --> 01:32:37.167 First, NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 7532841f-7469-4a33-a282-769f4a535ea4 01:32:37.167 --> 01:32:38.589 let me thank the Commission for NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 c511d8ee-048f-453a-b304-8914a331de2b 01:32:38.589 --> 01:32:39.761 the important work that it's NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 632a8af8-e0d5-428a-8c38-fb68dc370463 01:32:39.761 --> 01:32:42.146 doing for judicial salary review. NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 272285f2-edfa-43f1-986e-44a66e6134ec 01:32:42.146 --> 01:32:42.690 Second, NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 9b429035-6b19-4ddf-a3ac-a4d9bb4dc58a 01:32:42.690 --> 01:32:44.496 we very much support and agree NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 99a2caae-22c2-43de-a862-b0a1f6c47a37 01:32:44.496 --> 01:32:46.585 with the position of the Office NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 6a8b7e9a-c4fe-4a7d-b247-6c81d1fabdc9 01:32:46.585 --> 01:32:48.237 of Court Administration and NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 74dd0b05-b057-4e0c-8150-dea590d9dbfe 01:32:48.237 --> 01:32:49.889 our Chief Administrative Judge, NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 5daa9b78-4407-4eae-a7eb-b9355ea68d2b 01:32:49.890 --> 01:32:50.632 Joseph Zias, NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 5d951d76-7fa7-4753-b695-27bc104d0f1f 01:32:50.632 --> 01:32:53.229 and we support a statewide increase in NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 665ac31f-3e00-4595-82c7-6bce84f1ade7 01:32:53.229 --> 01:32:55.326 salary compensation for all New York NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 d5480d06-89c8-46ff-96df-f64447973ace 01:32:55.326 --> 01:32:58.210 judges on par with the federal judiciary. NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 9ad48142-b2ca-4b82-b096-46bd069dda1f 01:32:58.210 --> 01:33:00.865 We make one additional request NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 13489c96-885b-4c18-9cd3-cc1f9425be7f 01:33:00.865 --> 01:33:03.475 for the Commission to discuss. NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 0a765d5d-4778-4abf-9a35-905c5dd49571 01:33:03.475 --> 01:33:07.190 We respectfully ask that the Commission NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 a549788d-20a0-4aca-9f84-13ba30fa98b4 01:33:07.190 --> 01:33:10.383 consider if it does in fact recommend NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 45deb3c3-a52d-46de-bb0f-b1136c5da9c4 01:33:10.383 --> 01:33:13.341 an increase on power to federal NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 cea681ba-c685-4404-9098-21274a7c5588 01:33:13.341 --> 01:33:16.781 judiciary that it keep the existing NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 b444cf42-c4f3-4828-b172-78c1e5824902 01:33:16.781 --> 01:33:18.322 differential dollar differential, NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 3677b53f-42af-4bb3-a277-06c50888af1c 01:33:18.322 --> 01:33:19.690 not percentage differential, NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 6fff9fc7-0f66-453e-9841-434da19c55f8 01:33:19.690 --> 01:33:21.730 between Supreme Court judge pay NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 4dea9a33-f0ad-4143-a2da-3f391721827c 01:33:21.730 --> 01:33:23.770 and Criminal Court judge pay, NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 29d758f8-cf13-4a7f-b472-5f7f454c0401 01:33:23.770 --> 01:33:28.250 which at this point is $14,700. NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 6f01679f-088e-470f-b66c-1fbb714db34c 01:33:28.250 --> 01:33:32.016 So we we asked to Commission to NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 7e0d001b-bdfe-4306-9dd0-a88e1a953153 01:33:32.016 --> 01:33:34.767 consider this that I think the exact NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 1a1f62c4-e51f-46c3-a50b-9808dbdc69bc 01:33:34.767 --> 01:33:37.482 amount would be 93.68% in differences. NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 87b08ac5-3986-49ea-a696-7e23b67468cc 01:33:37.482 --> 01:33:41.171 I make these this request because of NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 487cc08b-1271-4c76-a314-a87e8afab60d 01:33:41.171 --> 01:33:43.278 the Criminal Court work as hard as NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 53ffa89a-f19b-4c8e-ba89-917c8ec22553 01:33:43.278 --> 01:33:45.673 I believe is any judge in the state NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 f11241ae-fd29-4df3-a0c5-44ea3e29067a 01:33:45.673 --> 01:33:47.819 or any other judges in the state NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 c4651d0d-1c3b-4e3c-8e32-0b150bba48a5 01:33:47.819 --> 01:33:50.364 having done that was in that I was in NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 fb36aab6-c98d-4d7b-995e-e28d7662b73c 01:33:50.364 --> 01:33:52.589 that position for a number of years. NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 4016c1b5-d462-45c0-8730-8421dbaa6b09 01:33:52.590 --> 01:33:55.386 These judges preside over all-purpose parts, NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 2325a706-1b9e-4603-88db-8207bf3c730c 01:33:55.390 --> 01:33:57.482 with calendars usually approaching NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 f3069048-dd75-40fd-9bf8-246d3e5c3519 01:33:57.482 --> 01:34:00.097 100 plus cases per day, NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 db4bd0a3-16ca-4796-b49f-cbe320f1303c 01:34:00.100 --> 01:34:02.225 Walk into a courtroom entirely NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 8d9570a9-94e6-4102-b760-8c4c49dfe418 01:34:02.225 --> 01:34:03.500 filled with citizens, NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 a39c7026-a9de-438c-8cc2-c77463efc373 01:34:03.500 --> 01:34:04.046 defendants, NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 640d240f-4122-4731-9b10-692d25ba6d8e 01:34:04.046 --> 01:34:06.776 accused people and their families, NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 40c2005d-e2bb-4207-b57d-b85ca4ea736b 01:34:06.780 --> 01:34:09.258 and are trying to matriculate those cases. NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 e486ff1b-ba40-4f66-900b-94082b5273f1 01:34:09.260 --> 01:34:10.262 Get them done. NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 5ace632d-cbd2-402d-a25b-b60ed92f6b90 01:34:10.262 --> 01:34:13.049 A Criminal Court judge is like driving a car. NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 4e30120e-f5ad-4470-afac-6634413a6218 01:34:13.050 --> 01:34:15.058 They participate literally in NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 09c47c96-1a1d-4016-b584-a5c995469448 01:34:15.058 --> 01:34:16.564 every single case. NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 f0f465b4-06c4-4610-a7b9-0e1b260cfd45 01:34:16.570 --> 01:34:18.208 No one else can adjourn a case for them. NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 5f37ffd6-dd88-41da-8401-573cc0496e8e 01:34:18.210 --> 01:34:19.360 They get the papers handed NOTE Confidence: 0.923324541666667 eb5d36ab-dff1-4fb1-a0ff-457e5ef76842 01:34:19.360 --> 01:34:20.510 to them by a bridge NOTE Confidence: 0.93855757 0308f01e-ab92-4fe9-a2d1-c895d00150d2 01:34:20.569 --> 01:34:22.290 officer. They find out where that Kate, NOTE Confidence: 0.93855757 b3e5bbd8-0e4a-46ce-a0ed-609b3cb38a57 01:34:22.290 --> 01:34:23.850 what's going on with that case. NOTE Confidence: 0.93855757 095cc614-482a-4a87-bf5e-2017c4760a18 01:34:23.850 --> 01:34:25.566 They engage with the District Attorney. NOTE Confidence: 0.93855757 6afc86e3-0646-4d22-9938-ab76d2532c9c 01:34:25.570 --> 01:34:27.166 They engage with the defense counsel. NOTE Confidence: 0.93855757 32a9da91-11d6-4bb4-8aca-04a539c10210 01:34:27.170 --> 01:34:28.808 Sometimes they'll have to take a plea. NOTE Confidence: 0.93855757 f82d9b90-3132-4bbb-90bf-522311951396 01:34:28.810 --> 01:34:30.875 Nothing can happen in the Criminal Court NOTE Confidence: 0.93855757 5dbab501-5db2-4c70-a3e8-42f323f2e252 01:34:30.875 --> 01:34:32.914 without the judge handling each and every NOTE Confidence: 0.93855757 2c102358-e8ce-439e-8c45-8a7dc0686a1a 01:34:32.914 --> 01:34:36.010 single one of those 100 plus cases a day. NOTE Confidence: 0.93855757 c79a8aff-52b6-4252-8921-0f27efa4fcde 01:34:36.010 --> 01:34:38.026 They're often often asked NOTE Confidence: 0.93855757 ee41bf0c-39cf-42e4-a543-c6279dfcf241 01:34:38.026 --> 01:34:41.050 to do the least by way. NOTE Confidence: 0.93855757 efd82dd8-3bff-42cd-8bf1-beb7318c0906 01:34:41.050 --> 01:34:42.714 I'm sorry to do the most with the NOTE Confidence: 0.93855757 38564097-003b-4cdf-90b1-dcf4cc27f63c 01:34:42.714 --> 01:34:45.250 least amount of resources, Sorry. NOTE Confidence: 0.93855757 4f1e4a00-8c32-4098-83b1-f307d421124b 01:34:45.250 --> 01:34:47.980 And they'll be asked to work night NOTE Confidence: 0.93855757 5f770792-0728-40be-8dc1-7c2a1410b0a0 01:34:47.980 --> 01:34:50.807 courts in average about 7 weeks a year, NOTE Confidence: 0.93855757 b1c9b621-184b-444d-95cf-c19efcbe0f27 01:34:50.810 --> 01:34:55.208 exceeding almost 4950 shifts per year. NOTE Confidence: 0.93855757 6fc12784-9298-4b15-b46e-d3f3c449f971 01:34:55.210 --> 01:34:56.683 Presently the percentage NOTE Confidence: 0.93855757 ff9336aa-5033-4838-b9a7-ad5f6131c335 01:34:56.683 --> 01:34:58.990 difference in salaries is 93%. NOTE Confidence: 0.93855757 b6fd8b02-ebd8-4b50-963d-6d2c4c0a3886 01:34:58.990 --> 01:35:02.810 When the first increase went through in 2011, NOTE Confidence: 0.93855757 c9eb28fb-37cc-41ba-83e2-5355ec4bc7ba 01:35:02.810 --> 01:35:05.810 the 93% equal to 11,100. NOTE Confidence: 0.93855757 c7927696-8859-4f96-87d5-40f8ca7120f7 01:35:05.810 --> 01:35:07.174 That's the difference between NOTE Confidence: 0.93855757 fb922c80-968b-434c-9b01-00d48d80095e 01:35:07.174 --> 01:35:09.220 the Supreme Court judges pay and NOTE Confidence: 0.93855757 73afcbcb-4045-4660-9abf-0989c2f6e496 01:35:09.278 --> 01:35:10.928 the Criminal Court judges pay. NOTE Confidence: 0.93855757 9cd0be0d-d250-48a2-8a32-69d09770a3e3 01:35:10.930 --> 01:35:14.543 In 2015 it maintained the 93% NOTE Confidence: 0.93855757 355bdd4d-c14a-4de3-967e-6c9c40562884 01:35:14.543 --> 01:35:17.098 difference but 9093% difference. NOTE Confidence: 0.93855757 576e82d6-9c27-40f1-b761-26d44a337500 01:35:17.098 --> 01:35:20.890 But that amounted then to what it is now, NOTE Confidence: 0.93855757 9908be1f-d1cb-44ce-9643-2d0e91c4bbbc 01:35:20.890 --> 01:35:21.686 14,700 difference. NOTE Confidence: 0.93855757 b5801038-dc13-4121-bad7-cdb95820fb16 01:35:21.686 --> 01:35:23.676 Should the Commission and again NOTE Confidence: 0.93855757 8a38f070-82a6-4a7a-bad8-d9d8c934c9b1 01:35:23.676 --> 01:35:26.549 we always ask that they do so but NOTE Confidence: 0.93855757 c4d52b92-3404-4030-8ff5-520ab8f98f50 01:35:26.549 --> 01:35:28.164 if the Commission recommended an NOTE Confidence: 0.93855757 5805dc5f-14dc-41ee-8c6a-e048694d4e42 01:35:28.232 --> 01:35:30.103 increase to federal parity the NOTE Confidence: 0.93855757 ee4a4b7e-2fd2-4b8c-9935-80e80f8a418a 01:35:30.103 --> 01:35:31.368 now the difference would be NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 f859fe9f-5dab-4f85-a85a-7465e726abde 01:35:33.610 --> 01:35:35.565 $16,282. I understand you know NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 6f639032-4cd1-4843-aa8e-15a322c94b5f 01:35:35.565 --> 01:35:37.520 it's a very respectable salary. NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 12af72e4-01fd-4071-888c-4a580718ca26 01:35:37.520 --> 01:35:38.872 We certainly you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 f41d9ffb-d23a-4678-9c98-31b3a259fcb3 01:35:38.872 --> 01:35:41.320 we agree with that we know that. NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 66761e57-bacb-4140-88f4-928f5e212160 01:35:41.320 --> 01:35:43.868 But we just ask that you recognize NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 a5d5b2b0-1454-4464-8852-71a4a30f4109 01:35:43.868 --> 01:35:46.465 that over time this really does NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 ff04a94d-18c3-4566-963f-8d435bd677ac 01:35:46.465 --> 01:35:48.835 diminish the Criminal Court judges NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 736130ad-bda1-4d3d-82cd-d356afe74b79 01:35:48.840 --> 01:35:52.056 parity with the Supreme Court judge NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 acdb05a0-7e4a-4696-926e-0a65c554aab3 01:35:52.060 --> 01:35:55.332 to to correct this or to fill the NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 4ef04150-8b2b-4681-8e12-2955b069be3d 01:35:55.332 --> 01:35:58.220 gap up to 93.68% would cost less NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 9d3479c4-573f-4436-826b-b41d70fcf421 01:35:58.220 --> 01:36:00.150 than $150,000 per year just for NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 b41c3e13-d116-4197-a195-ca499525dfc6 01:36:00.150 --> 01:36:02.016 the New York City criminal judges NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 0473dc77-0ef0-43b5-a721-d86390b96d16 01:36:02.016 --> 01:36:03.894 who would be receiving that pay. NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 d553e54d-7496-4d65-9b1c-4f1a3219ce82 01:36:03.900 --> 01:36:05.860 I just want to turn one additional comment. NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 786f0bce-dd1b-4012-926c-bca2d39b592c 01:36:05.860 --> 01:36:09.040 When Judge Justice Weinstein was talking NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 e6edf10c-a32a-48c6-af40-f6eb50e8e59b 01:36:09.040 --> 01:36:11.872 to Judge Zias about about morale, NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 a15cbf43-3d41-4daa-87d0-e43791e591db 01:36:11.872 --> 01:36:14.364 I just want to throw in very NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 6911721a-e47c-40ba-abd7-ea3be13e26b4 01:36:14.364 --> 01:36:16.331 quickly that from 2004 to 2010, NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 cd22058b-aafa-4070-8ae9-3572801a2170 01:36:16.331 --> 01:36:18.113 I was a supervising court attorney NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 a75d8455-ed2e-4b4a-9896-ea109a93036a 01:36:18.113 --> 01:36:20.158 in Queens County Criminal Court. NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 ced6f2ba-c5c5-4a5c-8014-597a0e262778 01:36:20.160 --> 01:36:22.272 I work for the supervising Judge NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 90b8bd6c-4e0b-4616-b31c-99c981dd79f5 01:36:22.272 --> 01:36:23.680 Judge Deborah Stevens Modica. NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 5b62e1a7-c7eb-48ff-96a5-f7f9eeb537c5 01:36:23.680 --> 01:36:25.340 And during that period, NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 067f44b5-f22e-4d9f-ad42-9002033a9184 01:36:25.340 --> 01:36:27.312 as we got into 2005, NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 56965090-4da0-4e21-a1d4-3ab62254b4d9 01:36:27.312 --> 01:36:29.184 6-7 and eight and then the NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 cff7bc93-60f3-40ca-9cff-b0aeac243fa5 01:36:29.184 --> 01:36:30.969 financial crisis hit and that was NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 0f930ff2-f662-4ee2-ab0d-fe678830da08 01:36:30.969 --> 01:36:33.400 going into like years 9 and 10 of NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 9fed7b11-03b3-4e2e-abee-969996b7ce9b 01:36:33.400 --> 01:36:35.320 not receiving a salary increase. NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 ca82493c-f46b-4da6-ba73-d7481b8686f7 01:36:35.320 --> 01:36:38.320 I worked with Judge Lyus, NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 f7ee624c-be87-44f5-a768-753b199a6ebb 01:36:38.320 --> 01:36:39.763 Judge Fernando Camacho, NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 4358efb5-d43b-4859-adfc-596909aed7be 01:36:39.763 --> 01:36:41.206 Judge Robert Racidi, NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 7a2c255c-0ce0-4ddb-b661-d3a4ba1207a9 01:36:41.210 --> 01:36:43.010 Pauline Mullins and I literally NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 4e79d307-bc91-4ede-94f8-d3e26048e0b8 01:36:43.010 --> 01:36:45.256 saw every single judge in Queens NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 40bb01e1-246f-45bc-887a-53e90d617bb4 01:36:45.256 --> 01:36:47.151 County Criminal Court every day NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 98f251ae-950a-41c3-a180-9249d14e000f 01:36:47.151 --> 01:36:49.050 during that period of time. NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 d2947202-05a5-4d1d-8f2e-fd07cfba519c 01:36:49.050 --> 01:36:51.810 And to answer Judge Weinstein's NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 9ca7d481-55c3-42af-8d75-91a9384d548c 01:36:51.810 --> 01:36:53.018 question of Judge IAS, NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 7c339a0e-f019-4c09-bca4-88d7e8160bb5 01:36:53.018 --> 01:36:55.354 morale was at its very, very lowest. NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 af25deaa-7ca1-4ef4-832f-04938b6d7776 01:36:55.354 --> 01:36:57.414 Yet performance by those judges NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 621ce23a-8528-42c5-a333-0a056ec148de 01:36:57.414 --> 01:36:59.330 was at its highest. NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 89649d11-27eb-41f0-b356-c2f0b2c2df3b 01:36:59.330 --> 01:37:01.650 Morale performance never suffered ever. NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 d7df5f33-7424-40c2-94a4-9d5d470946f6 01:37:01.650 --> 01:37:02.770 In fact, it increased. NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 ca819324-237e-491e-830c-6c1f748ebb24 01:37:02.770 --> 01:37:05.232 But when I asked them to cover multiple NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 e6d568f9-3989-4bb1-b1a4-16918c6cc99b 01:37:05.232 --> 01:37:07.380 parts to finish calendars in another NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 f5914ec5-ff35-44c6-85e5-8862e95e02fb 01:37:07.380 --> 01:37:09.828 part and started bench trial at 4:00, NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 48535bc0-9200-4f1a-a9fc-db20277ed881 01:37:09.830 --> 01:37:11.126 they never said no. NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 434babf5-a24f-4164-a6da-b5076e0981fc 01:37:11.126 --> 01:37:13.310 They weren't smiling when they said no, NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 184b1047-52c8-4890-803a-8da2297d6f0c 01:37:13.310 --> 01:37:13.780 but they, NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 5ea1f7fa-be50-4877-9c6a-caabf07f254a 01:37:13.780 --> 01:37:15.425 I mean they they always said yes, NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 cbb18928-a488-4f67-a34a-9df53ba8d176 01:37:15.430 --> 01:37:16.798 but they weren't smiling when they NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 7e244b7a-21dd-45b9-aec4-136bd06a5da7 01:37:16.798 --> 01:37:18.389 said it and they never said no. NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 8103ce6c-3d58-4d2e-ad4e-705964a57c1a 01:37:18.390 --> 01:37:19.455 But that again, NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 325e80cd-4821-483e-ab39-336db14a33e1 01:37:19.455 --> 01:37:21.585 if there is a denial of NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 cea6afd3-193a-4d6f-a850-71171c203c38 01:37:21.585 --> 01:37:23.629 an increase in salary, NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 baeb6ead-3468-437c-ab4c-af6a13a96bc6 01:37:23.630 --> 01:37:25.630 we're getting into that time NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 94401737-b647-46a7-9c08-00b65d8ccd75 01:37:25.630 --> 01:37:27.630 period again where you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 bcd229f2-bd94-4fd1-901b-edb0765f53ec 01:37:27.630 --> 01:37:31.590 judges really become very dissuaded NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 588ef23c-07cc-47e2-84a3-2a24c895152f 01:37:31.590 --> 01:37:33.480 judges back then they wouldn't, NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 6b43826c-c57a-4aaf-94e8-1bf0cc862c08 01:37:33.480 --> 01:37:35.503 they hesitated to call in sick when NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 89ceacc9-dbfb-4511-826f-23551162135a 01:37:35.503 --> 01:37:36.893 they were dreadfully ill because NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 bb2cd8a0-9006-4c2b-83a6-bae627867451 01:37:36.893 --> 01:37:38.936 of the consequences it would lead NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 89853361-f8ba-4fa4-8fa7-b27ba3cf3a3f 01:37:38.936 --> 01:37:41.400 to their colleagues in a given day. NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 ce516472-5b94-4bff-917a-424f59d7518c 01:37:41.400 --> 01:37:41.720 Anyway, NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 5976981b-55ac-4092-b5b1-49c975a18c58 01:37:41.720 --> 01:37:44.079 that that really does conclude my remarks. NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 6503b38d-0557-4131-90ad-d114b9a61d7c 01:37:44.080 --> 01:37:46.488 We again just asked the the Commission NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 bb2477eb-4fd3-433c-bca6-88ab52d0adf1 01:37:46.488 --> 01:37:48.892 to consider and discuss the possibility NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 09a7d236-ecf4-4f6e-a9ac-3e2e15640107 01:37:48.892 --> 01:37:51.992 of keeping the percentage difference NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 5f9b493b-f42a-4832-8ecf-e1d6f28ff9ff 01:37:51.992 --> 01:37:55.280 differential at 93.68% as opposed to 93. NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 dc375f9a-becd-4248-9a70-af613be6b982 01:37:55.280 --> 01:37:56.120 Thank you for your time, NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 332e8dc1-99ae-41ab-b15c-9a72d123f1b0 01:37:56.120 --> 01:37:56.456 Judge. NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 052fc940-88b9-4c62-8983-934ca66822aa 01:37:56.456 --> 01:37:57.128 Hold on, NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 f4fd8346-3605-4486-9cf6-f2fa0b3b080a 01:37:57.128 --> 01:37:59.480 just one brief question from Judge Wise. NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 1fb329ce-3314-45e4-a27b-9bebc3509f74 01:37:59.480 --> 01:37:59.984 Yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 f1c26b26-3fd9-45bd-9852-212c8106f422 01:37:59.984 --> 01:38:01.496 Thank you Judge. NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 57493781-6772-4b89-bda9-5dfe07a22ae4 01:38:01.496 --> 01:38:04.780 Though you mentioned the the night NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 e143ec7f-793c-46ca-8c7b-93ac9f60c797 01:38:04.780 --> 01:38:08.360 shifts of the Criminal Court judges. NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 b33d4ebe-63d9-4bc6-ad29-2237e97e27c5 01:38:08.360 --> 01:38:10.232 Am I correct too that they've NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 fdd21f07-246e-4b18-bc1c-ee3bc52bbb03 01:38:10.232 --> 01:38:12.399 they're also asked to work weekends, NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 811447b3-b0c3-45a0-bdbc-2cc3cb7b2bd9 01:38:12.400 --> 01:38:13.716 their weekend nights though NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 aceb8da1-172f-4665-be98-401fc78cf9a5 01:38:13.716 --> 01:38:15.032 acting Supreme Court justices NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 7b877869-82c7-4388-940a-4f75a5f15eeb 01:38:15.032 --> 01:38:16.959 will do what's called a off for. NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 7b000795-36b0-4152-8db8-7709a815ac09 01:38:16.960 --> 01:38:18.000 Those are the day shifts. NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 4b49f11a-6150-46e0-88bb-db59ca3ddd7f 01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:20.360 But when I was last in Criminal Court, NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 0fb9e22d-8da7-4ca6-ba62-571e28087382 01:38:20.360 --> 01:38:21.800 I would do seven nights in NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 fa924937-1d13-4f08-ba1e-5cb3ec3d9189 01:38:21.800 --> 01:38:24.164 a row of of night court. NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 9bd19803-6bf5-45e9-970f-3a4267e1fc43 01:38:24.164 --> 01:38:26.519 It would start on Monday, NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 eea96b34-35ff-483a-b019-487995c842d3 01:38:26.520 --> 01:38:28.194 I think and go through Sunday or it's not, NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 7f005439-0e34-48ca-b2c6-5e154f94d923 01:38:28.200 --> 01:38:28.998 I'm sorry, NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 656a69f9-6866-432c-aad3-dc30039f44f8 01:38:28.998 --> 01:38:31.392 start on Saturday and go through NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 355ba35b-9bc8-4ce9-aafc-09c0576eb653 01:38:31.392 --> 01:38:33.363 Friday and seven straight nights. NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 d019f946-f3d5-425e-b450-fe15dc897a86 01:38:33.363 --> 01:38:36.100 And I think I would have to NOTE Confidence: 0.929060598 5b3fd7af-748a-49ec-8db0-cb6e9892d120 01:38:36.186 --> 01:38:37.908 do 7 or 8 weeks a year NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 4d87c11d-a8c6-41b7-af66-b8204733fd60 01:38:37.910 --> 01:38:39.998 depending upon how many judges are NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 ec765951-f6cd-460c-bb64-e648920bdc90 01:38:39.998 --> 01:38:42.250 staffed in that particular county and NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 2575dabf-fb80-4900-b4cd-5380e8921d4b 01:38:42.250 --> 01:38:45.180 take the bench at 5 done hopefully NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 67a5b880-fdc1-47d0-8067-328a535dd38c 01:38:45.180 --> 01:38:47.385 at 1:00 if there's more cases that NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 00ac0c5d-28d4-4f72-a79a-59c1de54b90c 01:38:47.385 --> 01:38:49.440 have to be done as long as overtime NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 5364ccf1-4e1b-45db-889b-1d8875372d0c 01:38:49.440 --> 01:38:51.426 is okay in that particular borough NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 3e9718e8-72a6-4da2-9794-9e9b75b6c1f3 01:38:51.426 --> 01:38:53.904 with sometimes work till 132 o'clock. NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 7ccdc849-65c7-44b9-b55c-841420938c0e 01:38:53.904 --> 01:38:57.602 And I can honestly tell you on Friday night NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 a39915af-5b06-4e85-a58d-a25d92429627 01:38:57.602 --> 01:39:00.490 after 12:00 on your 7th day in a row, NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 45f8059d-66da-401c-b6f0-75ec5d7575eb 01:39:00.490 --> 01:39:02.290 it's it's, it's tough to smile. NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 442059c4-c20b-494d-b214-13f46bbe7ac3 01:39:02.290 --> 01:39:04.330 So that's all I would say. NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 11e09a4f-9f99-4c41-a7a9-72be84f43ba3 01:39:04.330 --> 01:39:07.170 Thank you. Thank you all. NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 b5d292e3-ebfc-4925-a0b6-3d422709c78c 01:39:07.170 --> 01:39:08.594 Thank you very much. NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 081a107e-988a-4f71-9d42-e6791d04bae5 01:39:08.594 --> 01:39:10.730 Our next speaker is Fran Hoffinger, NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 6c9fed5c-2eff-42eb-88c6-9b810402e139 01:39:10.730 --> 01:39:13.986 chair of the New York City Bar Association NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 f8222514-f16a-4d46-94f3-21e599808eab 01:39:13.986 --> 01:39:16.730 Council on Judicial Administration. NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 0c7793b0-980e-4380-b0b9-9cc06574eb0f 01:39:16.730 --> 01:39:20.084 Hello, just about good afternoon. NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 cb4ebb0b-8fe1-4671-a625-056d958ce24a 01:39:20.084 --> 01:39:21.890 And I I've been cutting as NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 9c7fa458-8391-45d5-b885-df3aa7f044b3 01:39:21.947 --> 01:39:23.479 I'm listening to everybody, NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 5baa3e92-5953-455c-bbd0-54a53eaf5a01 01:39:23.480 --> 01:39:25.919 so that's okay do your best try and keep. NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 d3b7a690-fed4-45e6-8ff1-35723f3b3963 01:39:25.920 --> 01:39:28.279 And so I'm trying to hopefully brief, NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 2ae1c0f3-a0b1-4a63-839a-271af1c62554 01:39:28.280 --> 01:39:32.296 and I apologize if I'm repeating my name, NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 39552704-b22b-4e9b-8d61-3a0f11a8fcdc 01:39:32.296 --> 01:39:34.078 as you know, is Fran Hoffinger. NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 8b50ff40-55f5-4d2a-b7e9-c188f0b97323 01:39:34.078 --> 01:39:36.394 And I'm testifying today on behalf NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 78039587-c69c-420b-ba68-cf62cfa85939 01:39:36.394 --> 01:39:39.200 of the New York City Bar Association. NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 41fba21d-959f-4fe8-af3b-c59452378840 01:39:39.200 --> 01:39:41.276 And it's Council on Judicial Administration, NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 e14ac6fb-77ae-4f8e-8d77-5a381a707927 01:39:41.280 --> 01:39:42.669 which I chair. NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 2fb0ef99-4b7f-4867-a2b1-9f76776832d0 01:39:42.669 --> 01:39:44.984 The Council on Judicial Administration NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 0126f75e-6fad-46de-a4b2-f87d3a894882 01:39:44.984 --> 01:39:47.427 coordinates the work of several of NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 42bb2fb6-e048-4df8-87f2-9852e3946371 01:39:47.427 --> 01:39:49.599 City Bars committees on issues that NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 c1215016-8ac4-41a9-9119-e388315efc85 01:39:49.672 --> 01:39:51.817 impact state and federal courts. NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 3d41cb18-28ba-441a-b6a2-d5b90016da68 01:39:51.820 --> 01:39:54.130 The Council includes as committee NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 48a93a35-6384-48a8-8f20-046f04e4a14b 01:39:54.130 --> 01:39:55.054 designated members, NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 cde44a3d-38ce-429c-bafa-03f27bd6ff97 01:39:55.060 --> 01:39:57.740 representatives from the Judiciary Committee, NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 8a44bf80-3fb8-4953-b95b-a97279ed8e66 01:39:57.740 --> 01:39:59.615 from the State Courts of NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 1e300edd-7551-4210-bbf3-5df1b326782b 01:39:59.615 --> 01:40:00.740 Superior Jurisdiction Committee, NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 4870031d-6066-4c1e-ab0e-d0c4708b5b8b 01:40:00.740 --> 01:40:02.000 the Federal Courts Committee, NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 1080ba06-d01a-4b0d-9f64-2a21948281af 01:40:02.000 --> 01:40:03.260 the Civil Courts Committee, NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 cbc2e3e6-a4e3-4fcb-b2fa-4001aa2b2d1e 01:40:03.260 --> 01:40:05.072 the Criminal Courts Committee, NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 eb076723-12b4-4052-98b5-2ceb55391039 01:40:05.072 --> 01:40:06.884 and the Litigation Committee. NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 d7906534-b3cd-43d1-b3ed-b72f419d9b6b 01:40:06.890 --> 01:40:09.140 City Bar is a voluntary organization NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 06b6aef2-ff38-4f21-a77e-7323c8babaa7 01:40:09.140 --> 01:40:11.577 of lawyers and law students founded NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 72e02be1-9647-41bc-8c43-5907efe85c94 01:40:11.577 --> 01:40:14.546 in 1870 of approximately 23,000 NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 e4d9e0d4-6520-40a5-a35d-d9ab594c1e24 01:40:14.546 --> 01:40:17.082 members dedicated to improving NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 6c7ea2c3-5589-4163-8cd3-68779665ff70 01:40:17.082 --> 01:40:19.329 the administration of justice. NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 7610be98-4702-467f-a660-7268192ad201 01:40:19.330 --> 01:40:20.413 The City Bar, NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 22ae47e2-1dac-44b3-8527-8ad90eb0ab97 01:40:20.413 --> 01:40:21.496 whose membership includes NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 76bd342c-de72-4f36-b77b-25e998b59c57 01:40:21.496 --> 01:40:23.434 practitioners from a wide variety NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 c197d536-b189-41b1-a756-e840e85fd80c 01:40:23.434 --> 01:40:25.166 of backgrounds and disciplines, NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 685ec663-1618-47f9-bc50-8c13dd0cb2ac 01:40:25.170 --> 01:40:28.278 has had a longstanding interest that in NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 86eff398-f13d-4a61-b66a-da1700ccf433 01:40:28.278 --> 01:40:31.609 issues that affect state and federal courts. NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 78ee3329-5bf7-4644-a374-7268ff6f073d 01:40:31.610 --> 01:40:33.680 I am a practicing attorney and NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 0bc12878-6155-45c5-82e9-ab1237bf4520 01:40:33.680 --> 01:40:36.149 I've been one for over 38 years, NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 7918b669-9eda-4474-a6e7-a6eb1a7322e0 01:40:36.150 --> 01:40:38.870 having appeared in courts all over New York NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 9c5169dd-879d-4bb7-a1fc-068c9be285d5 01:40:38.870 --> 01:40:41.909 City and Westchester and maybe once upstate, NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 2e2fc2d5-37a9-460e-8419-53da2d456a0a 01:40:41.910 --> 01:40:43.510 including but not limited to NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 28ae50eb-ea1b-4d17-9a40-9861e5a2b06c 01:40:43.510 --> 01:40:45.478 the state courts, Supreme Court, NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 58a78552-9fef-469c-a735-93a86712c9e1 01:40:45.478 --> 01:40:46.990 including criminal term, NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 2b68ef92-f96e-465c-9957-73aa962e4873 01:40:46.990 --> 01:40:50.310 commercial division, civil IAS, parts, NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 078d96d4-5e66-4a19-899a-89a782afc32c 01:40:50.310 --> 01:40:52.494 matrimonial and guardianship parts, NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 67d80564-ac88-4966-a7e1-5f5e3a64cc11 01:40:52.494 --> 01:40:54.816 Criminal Court, family court, NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 4b0fd690-62aa-453a-8d14-0e991b2fe018 01:40:54.816 --> 01:40:56.042 housing court, NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 b67fa2a4-6464-45af-8551-a539ac5045e0 01:40:56.042 --> 01:40:57.268 Surrogates court, NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 319613ee-a75e-4031-a07f-6e0864e36d4d 01:40:57.270 --> 01:40:58.755 the Appellate Division and in NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 effb791e-f5c0-4240-a937-2db0b9e50871 01:40:58.755 --> 01:41:00.240 federal courts in the Southern NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 0e6cbc6e-dd71-440d-8526-0c795c3e3504 01:41:00.291 --> 01:41:01.726 District in Eastern District of NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 c4ab4486-b641-4eaf-a07b-4691bf8a95ad 01:41:01.726 --> 01:41:03.560 New York and in bankruptcy courts. NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 b42a6c3f-9d73-4428-b0f8-4e3841869c19 01:41:03.560 --> 01:41:05.296 I serve on the Judiciary Committee of NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 f4d98753-e451-4752-9867-53a010d9325a 01:41:05.296 --> 01:41:07.278 the New York Women's Bar Association. NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 eba7a7e7-f906-4b8b-94e8-49d74087e8bd 01:41:07.280 --> 01:41:09.356 And I was an administrator in NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 51875ec2-5d1a-47ec-a989-82a5c2032da7 01:41:09.360 --> 01:41:12.114 2007 and a panel member in 2005 NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 b2662c5a-df28-468d-aaa1-72030d95a19c 01:41:12.114 --> 01:41:14.478 of the New York County Democratic NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 7735a266-d0f7-4d92-933b-5646d1549e8e 01:41:14.478 --> 01:41:16.055 Party's independent screening panel NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 342a54bf-ceb1-4eeb-adfc-a6a45ffb4689 01:41:16.055 --> 01:41:17.399 for civil court judges. NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 757eeca8-3912-4177-b993-d9b93e659454 01:41:17.400 --> 01:41:19.536 Thank you so much for allowing NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 555048b0-9c05-439a-b504-59e1f24bbaa5 01:41:19.536 --> 01:41:20.960 me to testify today. NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 868d5407-f47a-439b-b3c4-e62c02caa939 01:41:20.960 --> 01:41:23.305 Instead of focusing my remarks on the NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 3fc7376f-57d6-43fa-8387-e96feb89d390 01:41:23.305 --> 01:41:25.193 statistics that you've heard and you NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 fcc74cd3-8569-4198-869d-155133ae5189 01:41:25.193 --> 01:41:27.111 will continue to hear and also some NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 d2fc75f6-ee28-48eb-bb68-b3a5d78097d5 01:41:27.167 --> 01:41:29.176 of the other things that you've also NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 9af8246e-6085-4101-b7de-46dfd0acb79f 01:41:29.180 --> 01:41:30.615 heard from many of the judges and NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 420a1a1f-811d-425c-95ee-f2598ac0311c 01:41:30.615 --> 01:41:32.378 many of the other people testifying. NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 c4ff6e84-b122-4508-a81c-f8c102990ee0 01:41:32.380 --> 01:41:32.866 Today, NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 edc25835-b0c3-4e06-b401-c89bf0841aa1 01:41:32.866 --> 01:41:36.536 I'd like to just address a somewhat narrow NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 7da5dcdc-4e47-4ba9-81ae-37912cf8548f 01:41:36.536 --> 01:41:39.420 issue of why raising the Supreme Court, NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 35e44c4c-c5c9-401a-9309-5d201ef86377 01:41:39.420 --> 01:41:40.264 I'm sorry, NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 9b45e51c-1e1c-4527-a3e9-de78440eedaa 01:41:40.264 --> 01:41:41.952 the state judicial compensation NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 1fec08b1-f04c-4e44-b5df-4f81121fe970 01:41:41.952 --> 01:41:43.996 is so important to creating NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 dda3c054-5709-405c-9c9d-2ce97ed0d09d 01:41:43.996 --> 01:41:45.936 and maintaining a high level, NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 885e343a-071a-401c-b01d-46f75f7e0ef6 01:41:45.940 --> 01:41:49.380 independent and high performing judiciary. NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 8bb387f9-affa-435b-84aa-cf672ea5ca00 01:41:49.380 --> 01:41:50.224 Simply put, NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 815a5356-0740-458d-bfb4-e81dd071e5fb 01:41:50.224 --> 01:41:53.178 if we want to attract the best, NOTE Confidence: 0.9321977 35c8aa2a-88e6-43b6-84af-dce52e377c0e 01:41:53.180 --> 01:41:55.574 the brightest and the most talented judges, NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 77d3a6e9-cb44-42c2-9ab5-159146f76efb 01:41:55.580 --> 01:41:58.338 we needed to do more for them. NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 f06a6800-eefd-4c6a-a79f-4be9371eb6ea 01:41:58.340 --> 01:42:00.305 Raising their salaries is a NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 6afe5898-5d41-46cd-ab47-735bc563642c 01:42:00.305 --> 01:42:01.840 matter of respect and dignity, NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 516cafb6-435f-40fe-a373-e7349e2ba90b 01:42:01.840 --> 01:42:03.859 the same respect and dignity that we NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 3f0ba617-b6c2-42c5-a799-00488479b8f9 01:42:03.859 --> 01:42:05.644 expect them to show to the litigants NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 282c36a8-faec-4acc-ac4a-230f5d430990 01:42:05.644 --> 01:42:07.677 that appear in front of them and the NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 ba286b8e-b767-4499-b7c4-8068e7f06356 01:42:07.677 --> 01:42:10.538 attorneys that appear in front of them. NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 7a18a515-6d39-4e29-87e2-517e395c64bf 01:42:10.540 --> 01:42:12.425 If the state court salaries NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 83784ae7-a301-4ecb-af8b-0195efe684da 01:42:12.425 --> 01:42:13.933 do not remain competitive, NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 446495dc-39cf-49c6-be8c-03e2923f7a06 01:42:13.940 --> 01:42:16.080 fewer and fewer candidates NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 74103f3d-bb35-41bc-84c9-5be0fc6cfdcf 01:42:16.080 --> 01:42:18.220 will seek the position, NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 132ef35b-171c-44ca-9289-e5b9b9509d93 01:42:18.220 --> 01:42:20.790 further harming our current understaffing NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 a09fea1c-973e-4422-989f-307f5548d699 01:42:20.790 --> 01:42:24.143 and likely affecting the quality of the NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 eedc5900-b82f-4def-a113-41323275c3d9 01:42:24.143 --> 01:42:26.628 candidates who seek to be state judges. NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 08fa93b6-9cc0-45e9-9e40-84c25d7ffe2a 01:42:26.630 --> 01:42:27.802 Now, we've all heard, NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 ab01794b-568c-4379-ac14-7d3efe5f689c 01:42:27.802 --> 01:42:29.947 and I understand that the State court's NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 1118fb90-f8b1-42d4-b9ea-1f75ad4c9a03 01:42:29.947 --> 01:42:31.933 salaries were previously raised to the NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 840ea656-2598-41dd-90cc-1a0cd6f1091d 01:42:31.933 --> 01:42:34.150 same level as federal court judges, NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 ef488da5-34ec-4ce8-977e-142ba59db80d 01:42:34.150 --> 01:42:35.690 with Supreme Court's receiving the NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 e207300c-4d13-4f2a-80ab-eb1273e03af4 01:42:35.690 --> 01:42:37.230 same salaries and the Criminal, NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 a170fcc1-fd6b-49bf-b8c9-a2777ebde8d4 01:42:37.230 --> 01:42:39.915 Civil, Family and Housing Court NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 36a5b64a-21cf-4dd8-b435-ffc11ce240b5 01:42:39.915 --> 01:42:42.406 judges receiving somewhat of a NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 d6057ce3-fa8f-495c-bb59-e638e3d037e0 01:42:42.406 --> 01:42:44.685 percentage less and those based NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 bd9b04b1-f019-4a5a-bd4c-eafa9cdcd22c 01:42:44.685 --> 01:42:46.910 on protocols that this Commission NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 f02b89c1-7e2f-4687-be30-00728e738b8a 01:42:46.910 --> 01:42:48.384 previously recommended in 2015. NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 aafdd653-e3d6-48a9-a578-8656a57926ce 01:42:48.384 --> 01:42:50.354 But the federal bench received NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 3cff2c42-b104-46df-8367-457949693332 01:42:50.354 --> 01:42:52.476 and continues to receive automatic NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 1bb1726a-ef84-4718-a3c8-787ebf17321b 01:42:52.476 --> 01:42:54.388 cost of living adjustments. NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 8ebc3cc3-8bff-4a05-917f-802f3f00d577 01:42:54.390 --> 01:42:57.150 COLA adjustment increases every year, NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 3581d824-6cf5-4703-b446-dc96b77d35b1 01:42:57.150 --> 01:43:00.587 while the State courts judges did not. NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 83c1867c-c680-4d59-a748-5d06440c0b9b 01:43:00.590 --> 01:43:01.510 So at a minimum, NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 bf116d4f-2e9a-4a86-a4a0-3a192e8ee473 01:43:01.510 --> 01:43:03.270 the state court judges should be raised, NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 3f1257a6-bb72-4e3f-80f5-d2d6d975dacf 01:43:03.270 --> 01:43:06.348 and indeed as Judge Zaya said, NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 a1958e39-f5df-4713-89ad-a378f7520dc8 01:43:06.350 --> 01:43:08.688 restored to the same level as those NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 7496a1e2-cd51-436e-b051-157ebeac825e 01:43:08.688 --> 01:43:11.118 of the Federal Court judges with NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 3d0fb353-e908-46ec-96c1-095bc8d3e27b 01:43:11.118 --> 01:43:13.373 automatic COLA increases every year. NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 27c237bc-f75d-44a5-8316-5bdebd02eedf 01:43:13.380 --> 01:43:15.340 We should not be putting our state NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 8dfdf4e8-e4c0-40da-adc6-80066ab4252b 01:43:15.340 --> 01:43:17.166 court judges in the position of NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 9847cdb5-501c-4e68-8021-40e14a78c929 01:43:17.166 --> 01:43:19.322 repeatingly have to having to come back NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 0dadbec8-02c5-4d15-aac9-40fb022f1b04 01:43:19.384 --> 01:43:21.456 and ask for cost of living increases. NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 28685063-762b-4ac5-aae2-d0e75f84d591 01:43:21.460 --> 01:43:23.581 Judges are not paid the same as NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 8d674b5f-1831-4097-a165-dbadccdbf9b4 01:43:23.581 --> 01:43:25.140 lawyers in private practice and NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 959ba623-b4e5-4084-add1-1cd9825a51cf 01:43:25.140 --> 01:43:27.468 often take a pay cut when they take NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 9178b609-ba2a-457a-82cb-a45f32893ce6 01:43:27.534 --> 01:43:29.658 the bench and enter public service. NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 65a2ca0d-8a5e-4c63-8278-9a9f2e6187ba 01:43:29.660 --> 01:43:31.949 They are not expecting to make the NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 75517435-6f2c-4cfd-aa32-d51efc4287fb 01:43:31.949 --> 01:43:34.280 same salaries as law firms as law NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 d2c38690-a9cb-4763-b0dd-797a0f0aae43 01:43:34.280 --> 01:43:36.380 firm partners in big law firms. NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 94b59038-d95a-4030-b22d-44429513fcbf 01:43:36.380 --> 01:43:38.417 But those who are the face of NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 b36f82f7-3c03-4606-959c-aca7c110daf1 01:43:38.417 --> 01:43:40.549 justice in the state court should NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 edb67cdf-b6ba-49d8-b28d-7a79355569db 01:43:40.549 --> 01:43:42.514 be treated fairly and with dignity, NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 d826ea21-7cc1-40e9-bd3a-9fd1a41f4dff 01:43:42.514 --> 01:43:44.631 and again in the same way that we NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 41e51d02-9be2-4357-bfea-c8f099ede699 01:43:44.631 --> 01:43:46.416 expect them to treat us as lawyers. NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 723d339c-af14-40b3-90e8-47bfa32fa557 01:43:46.420 --> 01:43:48.484 And the people of the state of New NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 56df9c96-6ae9-41a7-9670-9c5e39f2d33d 01:43:48.484 --> 01:43:50.232 York expect to be treated when NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 29424db6-bd92-44f7-855d-083cfb20789c 01:43:50.232 --> 01:43:51.697 they are coming before them. NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 ca58234f-be7d-4ce2-bd55-69ac6755c7cc 01:43:51.700 --> 01:43:53.324 Being a state court judge in New NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 915f5199-26ec-4b50-bf5b-e64995922034 01:43:53.324 --> 01:43:54.340 York is not easy. NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 b77bd6e7-bad4-4157-9616-bc608dc5d692 01:43:54.340 --> 01:43:56.890 Our judges routinely handle complex NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 d9bd6b77-78b0-41c3-abe6-1e814a3ac308 01:43:56.890 --> 01:43:58.420 cases involving international NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 cdd6aa27-f039-4944-ae45-0ddbc3b89438 01:43:58.420 --> 01:44:00.980 businesses and financial transactions, NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 247006ef-2348-4037-a2c3-248ddf77800e 01:44:00.980 --> 01:44:03.255 and an enormous docket of family court, NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 142a4669-2927-4ccf-95c6-8317e4e755b8 01:44:03.260 --> 01:44:05.392 housing court, Criminal Court, NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 dc107e15-65f3-46cb-8eea-83fddcc19aea 01:44:05.392 --> 01:44:06.458 consumer debt, NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 041eaf8a-3d86-4e99-9cf9-d44389ab28a0 01:44:06.460 --> 01:44:08.470 and other cases that affect the NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 73185236-840f-41ee-bc48-c325f122082e 01:44:08.470 --> 01:44:10.380 daytoday lives of New Yorkers. NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 311e8495-7502-42c5-abbe-97ee13bf3dd0 01:44:10.380 --> 01:44:10.691 Furthermore, NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 f64963f4-519e-4d79-b13f-985a398797c3 01:44:10.691 --> 01:44:12.557 the people served by the New NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 be84cf46-ba9c-4b54-a5cd-c19900ead648 01:44:12.557 --> 01:44:14.658 York State courts are varied and NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 fac0dc20-567f-4018-9c65-8fc1a2d029c3 01:44:14.658 --> 01:44:16.134 economically and racially diverse, NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 75e5b7b8-9022-487e-a880-68499e6a25f7 01:44:16.140 --> 01:44:19.020 and many New Yorkers appear in court pro se, NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 4556f2f8-9ed7-434e-a860-ebd27cfd52b2 01:44:19.020 --> 01:44:20.714 which means that not only do the NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 494c8f9e-9b9c-412f-b910-2316704aa31c 01:44:20.714 --> 01:44:21.710 judges managing heavy dockets NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 ba2e2a62-6002-4118-8349-0cf2efe21d66 01:44:21.710 --> 01:44:23.018 have to do their own work, NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 6da4ba64-8dea-4a89-b885-09ea8e558310 01:44:23.020 --> 01:44:25.162 but they also have to help shepherd NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 6953c2bc-72d7-4779-848a-f95a8259256e 01:44:25.162 --> 01:44:26.834 individuals through the court system NOTE Confidence: 0.9296746 aed70a3b-13cf-4c90-a877-a18c29d902b1 01:44:26.834 --> 01:44:28.574 without the assistance of counsel. NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 1dd9d74a-d167-497a-9828-8d14a83c1843 01:44:30.750 --> 01:44:32.540 Amazing state court judicial salaries NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 98148316-a896-4c20-b691-63d128761839 01:44:32.540 --> 01:44:34.989 back up to the federal excuse me, NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 e65aa171-f9f8-480a-81d1-fe05b9708174 01:44:34.990 --> 01:44:37.643 to the level of federal court salaries NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 dadc3a43-b020-4219-8b09-143f286b3543 01:44:37.643 --> 01:44:40.388 and adding an annual COLA increase. NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 b63ca07f-d446-40af-8621-2d01bca91a6b 01:44:40.390 --> 01:44:42.259 By doing that we are letting the NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 11f4c965-0af8-442a-b2fb-f099b3a47f7a 01:44:42.259 --> 01:44:44.166 judges know that the people of the NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 023a9390-2d61-48a1-840d-61c2da7795bb 01:44:44.166 --> 01:44:46.195 state of New York highly value their NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 d97af143-739f-44f8-8164-d73c2f0af78e 01:44:46.195 --> 01:44:48.210 public service and believe they NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 722b1a60-22a8-4804-b3b6-2edad736ffd3 01:44:48.210 --> 01:44:49.822 should be compensated appropriately. NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 825b0cbb-7850-4133-9956-be1fa307ec58 01:44:49.830 --> 01:44:51.444 I've also been told that the NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 2198e63f-6411-4fde-9dfa-f515f7f3ed4c 01:44:51.444 --> 01:44:53.179 judges benefits such as medical and NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 9bcff437-3c2b-40d5-b7a7-a7664220f436 01:44:53.179 --> 01:44:54.679 dental coverage right now cover NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 4fce4228-05dd-49d4-9b95-594b68f54ffa 01:44:54.679 --> 01:44:56.468 less than they did in the past, NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 2d27cb57-60ab-4426-9b34-9e4589d36e21 01:44:56.470 --> 01:44:58.945 probably because of rising healthcare NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 71d9235f-5ffa-4b51-a678-8c05c301c87a 01:44:58.945 --> 01:45:02.240 costs and particularly in New York City. NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 0ff77b59-cf02-49e7-84e0-ba3d1520e535 01:45:02.240 --> 01:45:02.512 Anecdotally, NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 159b7477-f167-43dc-bb5a-e51c4ccd2b3c 01:45:02.512 --> 01:45:04.688 I learned of 1 judge a single parent NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 b6c29394-88f7-46e2-930d-9b491d9c2e54 01:45:04.688 --> 01:45:06.803 who struggled to pay for much needed NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 da34c774-191d-4bed-a6e3-1db76d552fe5 01:45:06.803 --> 01:45:08.582 medical care which wasn't fully covered NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 8ad4c411-bd14-4d3d-8bfb-4e4b92afc666 01:45:08.582 --> 01:45:10.718 by her medical insurance as well as to NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 7661666b-53f9-4b19-945f-1e6f3d79157d 01:45:10.720 --> 01:45:14.320 pay for the college costs for her child. NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 8d3c8812-0a92-4313-8021-360c19c18c52 01:45:14.320 --> 01:45:16.035 As you've heard and as you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 5ba78544-8d98-4f63-98d3-fe69c811d188 01:45:16.040 --> 01:45:18.641 of course, judges in New York do not get NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 aa8fcc14-ff19-469b-86aa-4b1e61b4b643 01:45:18.641 --> 01:45:20.760 location pay as the court attorneys do, NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 3c59bf2a-bdea-4067-9e44-ea504f90d01f 01:45:20.760 --> 01:45:22.386 and the rising cost of living NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 b0cce681-f75c-460d-838e-7a04bc65de83 01:45:22.386 --> 01:45:23.199 due to inflation, NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 eadc82e3-d0dc-4c61-bd53-f2c900f81ca0 01:45:23.200 --> 01:45:24.840 especially in New York City, NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 6ae08c97-3d9c-4d02-915c-9c2355ca62be 01:45:24.840 --> 01:45:26.940 makes it more and more difficult. NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 abbd7f99-042b-42c9-8fd4-214c4d9c1476 01:45:26.940 --> 01:45:27.900 So at the very least, NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 10a34695-ba12-44cb-983c-4904748bad73 01:45:27.900 --> 01:45:29.985 we should do what this NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 51d5bb3b-75cc-4e0a-acbd-a4b08448def2 01:45:29.985 --> 01:45:31.653 Commission recommended in 2015, NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 dd40f259-bdd1-456c-9c2b-1c7f8d193354 01:45:31.660 --> 01:45:33.208 pay the state court judges the NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 25d5800e-905d-4665-abca-3b1542bc54e2 01:45:33.208 --> 01:45:34.940 same as their federal counterparts, NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 48706a1d-f3c7-4050-95fd-b2d429471501 01:45:34.940 --> 01:45:37.496 and have an automatic COLA increase, NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 f0963493-65ca-40d0-b025-3561c04e3f23 01:45:37.500 --> 01:45:38.820 which may not have been recommended. NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 faa1182f-10a1-4b13-a6c0-984195e4ebc0 01:45:38.820 --> 01:45:41.100 But we're suggesting that NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 e4af7ceb-70c0-4c3c-bf40-3240129f1ba1 01:45:41.100 --> 01:45:42.448 we're asking for that. NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 06d51adb-5907-4d8b-be27-680b3a58d76d 01:45:42.448 --> 01:45:45.125 We need to let the judges who are NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 7acc6ec2-4a38-4c8e-a0b0-61ad10902b2b 01:45:45.125 --> 01:45:47.540 doing a good job know those who are NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 4ac56ad6-6824-4036-bf8f-6dc9be084422 01:45:47.540 --> 01:45:49.460 working hard to address the backlogs, NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 b62f475b-189b-43d2-8333-65abe0f5cb72 01:45:49.460 --> 01:45:51.791 making sure that motions are being decided NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 2aa38b6a-a9c4-4823-800b-41f41c1b87ad 01:45:51.791 --> 01:45:54.058 and trials held without undue delays. NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 e75cb86f-1c9c-47b8-8769-fe46b439e8b3 01:45:54.060 --> 01:45:56.225 Treating lawyers and parties who NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 28058b58-3095-46d2-93fb-802e7db63195 01:45:56.225 --> 01:45:57.712 are appear before them fairly. NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 6ac9ea29-41f4-4df9-862c-2771bc144773 01:45:57.712 --> 01:45:59.290 We need to let them know NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 9ee80585-0e44-4768-94cf-7f40e9c8956b 01:45:59.342 --> 01:46:00.578 that we appreciate them. NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 3d289ac1-3473-4b9e-87b9-0f95b86a3cb2 01:46:00.580 --> 01:46:02.332 Many of our judges worked hard NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 39773286-a849-4ff0-9e88-7bbac9492c69 01:46:02.332 --> 01:46:04.020 through the throughout the pandemic, NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 6ce55f5f-5c85-4c61-b961-7fb6347e3bf1 01:46:04.020 --> 01:46:05.860 some even doing double duty NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 056107b0-8836-4762-b50b-1bed40655144 01:46:05.860 --> 01:46:07.332 and cutting their parts. NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 680a4029-c0e8-412a-95f3-97cbb8ab767d 01:46:07.340 --> 01:46:09.125 I learned that a number of judges NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 240525c7-d1e3-4797-ade0-13a4edc59746 01:46:09.125 --> 01:46:10.840 assigned to the Supreme Court parts NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 d6f2193d-443a-4596-9980-12e2ead4a66a 01:46:10.840 --> 01:46:12.622 in New York City were covering NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 4d002db4-84a5-499e-b2dc-dc9cd5da8ff0 01:46:12.622 --> 01:46:14.010 family court emergencies when NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 9d26086c-2984-4e95-85d2-86db0ac1f069 01:46:14.010 --> 01:46:15.735 the family courts were closed. NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 eeea8823-a65f-4a55-a2d2-3879490d9429 01:46:15.740 --> 01:46:17.396 Those judges handled the backlogs in NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 bf63d0c1-036b-4bb0-8318-97b8d447360a 01:46:17.396 --> 01:46:19.340 their own parts due to the pandemic, NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 3a2b57dc-d555-49ba-9c09-9fdc1dfe3ecb 01:46:19.340 --> 01:46:21.140 kept their parts open and running, NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 74d944bd-4560-4c4f-8e15-3260c8397595 01:46:21.140 --> 01:46:24.535 and also took on family court cases. NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 8c7548cb-e4b6-4a22-b0aa-5dba160e8543 01:46:24.540 --> 01:46:26.465 We want to retain good judges and NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 1f38b35b-e1b0-4480-b499-8826d1393932 01:46:26.465 --> 01:46:28.962 we want to keep on attracting the NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 bdbceb7a-25cf-4053-92ef-25e64c3f2189 01:46:28.962 --> 01:46:30.972 talented lawyers to service judges, NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 5e025ca2-924b-4d5d-b60d-2274a30df36d 01:46:30.980 --> 01:46:32.650 but it is hard to do so if they don't NOTE Confidence: 0.94036376 e6b4106f-3516-4d53-a1ff-c3d214c6380c 01:46:32.695 --> 01:46:34.494 feel that they are being treated fairly. NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 5f880762-86db-424b-8bff-979638be0db2 01:46:37.980 --> 01:46:39.989 It's also important to do so to NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 fb01a0bd-0c81-4219-a50b-b07060085c77 01:46:39.989 --> 01:46:42.230 create a level of accountability for NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 b8d4abe4-2024-4982-a8e0-71ac949a8291 01:46:42.230 --> 01:46:44.415 those who who are underperforming, NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 081c34f9-80cc-402f-97d4-1462641ea03a 01:46:44.420 --> 01:46:46.305 and raising their salaries will NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 0a4f3950-2203-424c-b981-3f543c2f6dce 01:46:46.305 --> 01:46:48.703 make the state court judgeships more NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 19b633cd-c4c9-4894-818a-e2f96af0f6c1 01:46:48.703 --> 01:46:50.948 attractive to well qualified applicants, NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 5ada1c12-cd89-43d2-bb35-b2fed2668740 01:46:50.950 --> 01:46:53.197 which will help weed out the poor NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 23eb6e62-988d-4605-94aa-4ed5c23622c0 01:46:53.197 --> 01:46:55.000 performing judges and improve how NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 c3db6489-708a-4b2d-94ec-72f2f2d34800 01:46:55.000 --> 01:46:57.830 justices served in our state courts. NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 92266451-0105-47d7-8533-d1b00c9e9747 01:46:57.830 --> 01:46:59.440 There are many other issues in the NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 b16ea889-0fed-4a77-81d7-56a8dfe1761c 01:46:59.440 --> 01:47:01.107 state courts that need to be addressed, NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 fd9c7334-d7c4-41b8-990a-23581adb548c 01:47:01.110 --> 01:47:03.302 not the least of which include raising the NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 252dd324-384c-437b-a960-5528739f7e59 01:47:03.302 --> 01:47:05.547 number of Supreme Court judges statewide, NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 4b469167-5483-4713-8f05-82071adcab7c 01:47:05.550 --> 01:47:07.110 addressing issues surrounding NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 0c7bb5b6-4322-4621-998a-202165906c99 01:47:07.110 --> 01:47:09.190 diversity and racial equity, NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 953bbfb8-450d-4efd-85a2-4442864dedbf 01:47:09.190 --> 01:47:11.830 addressing the nonjudicial staff shortages, NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 3b9db05a-3095-4016-bec8-ce98d3e5c061 01:47:11.830 --> 01:47:13.684 and working to improve the physical NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 cfcc2415-a3ea-4f6f-a1df-f1aa6485f5d2 01:47:13.684 --> 01:47:15.430 condition of courthouses around the state, NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 cca4d02e-8eed-4fc6-975e-42e9356cc6dc 01:47:15.430 --> 01:47:17.686 and particularly in New York City. NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 01daff51-5fd6-4ec9-afd5-c4876da93b94 01:47:17.690 --> 01:47:19.978 The City Bar just issued a report about NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 35467d45-7b57-4827-909d-3b1f26534f6d 01:47:19.978 --> 01:47:21.591 eliminating the constitutional cap on NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 f6a99e89-a5e5-4083-b4a6-fdf668dd677a 01:47:21.591 --> 01:47:23.565 the number of Supreme Court judges, NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 4d3155ad-8905-48c8-87c0-7aee4a767ebf 01:47:23.570 --> 01:47:25.460 and we have a Working group on NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 72581fe1-6890-4617-92e3-062e49b71ac8 01:47:25.460 --> 01:47:27.275 racial equity in the state courts NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 834b4299-cbf9-42e8-a4fe-7171c290007d 01:47:27.275 --> 01:47:29.171 that just issued a progress report NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 7a915932-639c-4d54-86b4-3ef3d1cd14cb 01:47:29.171 --> 01:47:30.714 and recommendations creating lasting NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 7a32c08c-fe69-47f5-8efb-6dfd017273d9 01:47:30.714 --> 01:47:33.054 reform in the wake of Secretary NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 51fc2ec5-29bd-47bb-8d18-b574f4f32dba 01:47:33.054 --> 01:47:35.390 Jay Johnson's Equal Justice Report. NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 aff0c0c9-2d3e-49aa-87dc-50afc303b0c0 01:47:35.390 --> 01:47:37.526 Such both initiatives, we hope, NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 61be900d-cb44-4f3a-ac6e-0d5a60b9139b 01:47:37.526 --> 01:47:39.892 will leave to lead to much needed NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 07471fd6-69ad-453d-8d42-ee154bf925f6 01:47:39.892 --> 01:47:41.530 improvements in the state courts. NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 865014a3-d8bb-4e20-9dcd-0fa559cfd0fb 01:47:41.530 --> 01:47:43.679 But today we are here to address NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 1195baea-2fb9-4d9e-bf45-8fedd4ecf162 01:47:43.679 --> 01:47:45.818 the critical need to raise judicial NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 6aec30d7-f870-4dcf-92b1-105a58c4ef57 01:47:45.818 --> 01:47:47.738 salaries for state court judges. NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 75ac10a1-8f8f-422d-bff4-9bb2abecaf90 01:47:47.740 --> 01:47:49.816 It is a worthy first step, NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 aa88bd78-47d2-4657-b198-dc567e008e8a 01:47:49.820 --> 01:47:52.604 and one that can be achieved in our NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 9bef0b52-1b9a-4ea1-b72e-239886befb96 01:47:52.604 --> 01:47:53.300 continuing effects, NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 8a7dafcb-25df-4f75-a39b-9b688e23a750 01:47:53.300 --> 01:47:54.030 Excuse me? NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 07cb7188-abbb-460d-bd5e-ebb58fd3415c 01:47:54.030 --> 01:47:56.220 Efforts to improve the state courts. NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 b6d9ec3c-00df-4283-bdb9-413a05b642b7 01:47:56.220 --> 01:47:57.552 Our judges deserve it, NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 fafee7a3-bf98-49d2-b194-c555dffff9c8 01:47:57.552 --> 01:47:59.933 and the people of the state of NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 9fd8993c-0297-4c6c-9145-2fc84305a5f4 01:47:59.933 --> 01:48:01.811 New York deserve to have judges NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 e1a52cc3-21fa-4d2c-b043-6014d85a9703 01:48:01.811 --> 01:48:03.860 who are paid fairly adopting the NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 3b9141d1-f33a-41da-92c7-b9b54654108b 01:48:03.860 --> 01:48:05.460 recommendations of the City Bar. NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 a73a5b85-7b32-4464-b2af-3e3813b4b271 01:48:05.460 --> 01:48:07.416 To raise the state court judges NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 c89fb6bf-e962-48fa-a3d0-f43b6b7bf3c4 01:48:07.416 --> 01:48:09.832 salaries to the current level of the NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 5c39baee-4120-4d62-a08a-7b5be01ad0e5 01:48:09.832 --> 01:48:11.932 federal judges with an automatic COLA NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 5d7e9a5f-13c8-4a94-81a4-c96b5d83bf8c 01:48:11.932 --> 01:48:14.177 increase is not only just and equitable, NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 7d4b26cc-bab3-491b-965f-1944bd70af5e 01:48:14.180 --> 01:48:16.875 it is the right thing to do. NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 09a1944e-7548-4567-a703-1767b078baae 01:48:16.880 --> 01:48:20.000 Thank you very much. Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 087f5ec2-fb68-458c-8de2-3cbe60457464 01:48:20.000 --> 01:48:22.114 Our next speaker is Judge Alan Spodak, NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 de599e1c-d43d-4da4-8843-891e058eafd8 01:48:22.120 --> 01:48:23.878 president of the Supreme Court Judges NOTE Confidence: 0.9324766 964f48d2-1510-48a8-a191-e639e34ec2b5 01:48:23.878 --> 01:48:25.679 Association of the City of New York. NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 f11c01b9-acb9-49dd-8f5b-22d68297cc7f 01:48:28.320 --> 01:48:30.880 Judge still, good morning. NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 1325253d-3bf9-4bb4-af1a-f984cd9c1022 01:48:30.880 --> 01:48:32.718 We're hanging in there. I'm not rushing. NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 aec49757-af27-4445-aa08-330e9a23f609 01:48:34.840 --> 01:48:37.536 Chairman Fahey and the other members of the NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 5ed9c3c7-0888-4355-be4b-0e147029c017 01:48:37.536 --> 01:48:39.600 Commission thank you for the opportunity NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 5ec058da-fc63-4d82-84b8-b57c89b4e952 01:48:39.600 --> 01:48:42.610 to speak to today and provide testimony. NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 993b5800-5ef5-47b7-b5c4-b4d38f936a64 01:48:42.610 --> 01:48:45.026 My name is Ellen Spodak and I was NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 f0c161f8-b9ec-4727-8b26-5260b8445202 01:48:45.026 --> 01:48:47.354 elected to the Supreme Court in 2008 NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 8617178a-b386-4924-8362-8ddf42a802b4 01:48:47.354 --> 01:48:50.090 and currently served on the Supreme NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 00c784eb-2910-4cb8-aa42-ab1bfea50916 01:48:50.090 --> 01:48:51.886 Court Second Judicial District. NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 0ed0a485-8b28-401f-b473-eccb7492ca6e 01:48:51.886 --> 01:48:55.230 I am President of the Supreme Court Justices NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 35e58857-ac57-4891-b2e4-70c139b73a29 01:48:55.300 --> 01:48:57.687 Association of the City of New York. NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 871f9821-05e3-4fd9-b7df-2980f568d3ad 01:48:57.690 --> 01:48:59.922 It took over 20 years for a Commission NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 7e82af1a-bba4-4c93-bf60-488900c8d31d 01:48:59.922 --> 01:49:02.916 to be formed to consider judicial pay NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 d8369112-4661-41a0-8b3a-e2906761cbe8 01:49:02.916 --> 01:49:04.808 independently from the legislature. NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 1673d359-5a76-48f4-a9e3-7495c9303de6 01:49:04.810 --> 01:49:08.191 It was agreed by that Commission and NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 f9a11cda-8ecb-4e4b-ad58-a01ba4f3d9d2 01:49:08.191 --> 01:49:10.141 this Commission's predecessors that NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 a52eef91-6c24-49c2-9b1e-89f4f6e598de 01:49:10.141 --> 01:49:12.691 the appropriate benchmark for New York NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 b246b49c-f893-491e-ae8d-2a08f067e8e8 01:49:12.691 --> 01:49:15.560 State judges is federal judicial pay. NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 65dd8caf-43e2-4644-a126-09ff813cb2d8 01:49:15.560 --> 01:49:18.000 And just as an aside, NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 31dc2e0f-97ca-4c58-8d8a-3bd27976bbe5 01:49:18.000 --> 01:49:20.226 initially New York State judges were NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 d285abac-a825-4664-8777-ec4af511c733 01:49:20.226 --> 01:49:22.599 paid more than federal court judges, NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 ce140812-a4e8-408a-8341-60c248aacdc6 01:49:22.600 --> 01:49:26.430 and federal court judges look to New NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 69a3abdb-166e-45c5-86bd-0d8f5894b371 01:49:26.430 --> 01:49:28.964 York State to determine their pay. NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 2dc80b4d-f830-4d14-8c64-766c5065dfb5 01:49:28.964 --> 01:49:32.800 And somehow that got lost in translation. NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 ceca8218-f873-4785-a057-0bb5035e50c2 01:49:32.800 --> 01:49:33.964 Despite this agreement, NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 a39bce4f-b52f-46f5-b01e-2b9ba0b0425c 01:49:33.964 --> 01:49:36.680 actual parity was last achieved in 2019, NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 5a7eff18-2573-42fd-992d-120f4b07c69b 01:49:36.680 --> 01:49:41.550 and even then only fleetingly. NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 84227b99-02d0-45a8-8246-6f1d84c21daf 01:49:41.550 --> 01:49:43.615 2019 20 commissions declined to NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 9856e8ed-8735-428f-9e22-321bd788a13c 01:49:43.615 --> 01:49:45.680 increase judicial salaries in line NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 f594730b-0c58-4e67-abc8-33f078aee7d8 01:49:45.750 --> 01:49:47.630 with our federal counterparts. NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 d5f38231-4e0c-4d4e-b08c-6fc27485df2a 01:49:47.630 --> 01:49:49.458 By way of explanation, NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 13d2f2a9-3814-4763-bf1f-30354dd5fd86 01:49:49.458 --> 01:49:51.743 they cited fears of budgetary NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 e5330a1a-e20f-4959-a9b8-3deee9b96f6f 01:49:51.743 --> 01:49:53.922 shortfalls and the COVID-19 pandemic. NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 2f7a7ff1-8c7d-4336-94d7-118896152e54 01:49:53.922 --> 01:49:56.683 It is worth emphasizing, however, NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 773d6c84-4607-43bd-8665-acabdc070c9a 01:49:56.683 --> 01:49:58.655 that the commissioner's economic NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 4dce7377-6204-412a-a3f8-be70e64139f9 01:49:58.655 --> 01:50:01.910 fears did not come to fruition. NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 fd3cfa27-9d12-4a7a-9d51-489d4f563e90 01:50:01.910 --> 01:50:04.948 We also lag behind the salaries of, NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 e9913f1d-e3ef-4c26-9cdc-4d5d3f5a512d 01:50:04.950 --> 01:50:08.016 I'm sorry, did not come to fruition. NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 6c462960-849f-4eea-be04-acfe6ca98450 01:50:08.020 --> 01:50:09.044 In fact, NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 233c6381-1ab5-4973-b63e-5601e474f820 01:50:09.044 --> 01:50:12.116 the state reported general funds operating NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 070ac12b-3935-4bb5-9991-383c2c483eec 01:50:12.116 --> 01:50:15.251 surpluses at the ends of 2020 and 2022. NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 abafffd1-7a3d-4fd3-8655-29eb64378cc3 01:50:15.251 --> 01:50:18.699 As a result of the Commission's in actions, NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 b84092c9-ae73-435e-86d6-81b35ace5280 01:50:18.700 --> 01:50:20.875 New York State judges compensation NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 06ba87e1-bdc0-45ea-a407-bc37606991dd 01:50:20.875 --> 01:50:23.540 has remained frozen for four years. NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 7b40f8a0-a6ea-4589-8d9f-73ec43dca4af 01:50:23.540 --> 01:50:24.450 Once again, NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 305790de-feb1-4f01-b381-d7881056d38a 01:50:24.450 --> 01:50:26.725 our salaries significantly lag behind NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 63ba812a-ca8b-4e24-85f8-26195fe932fb 01:50:26.725 --> 01:50:29.608 other state and federal District Court NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 a1663a45-550b-4051-b0db-f8eeee76b21f 01:50:29.608 --> 01:50:32.013 judges with far lower caseloads. NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 f6c79536-fc14-49f5-8c99-485c52537e45 01:50:32.020 --> 01:50:34.648 We also lag behind the salaries NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 a7c7eb12-4f70-4bc3-adda-fbd637ee2938 01:50:34.648 --> 01:50:36.400 of professionals in government NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 fc797e88-adb3-423d-8a6c-5d1af428cc56 01:50:36.475 --> 01:50:37.960 and private practice. NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 4f6fb29f-9187-4a56-9ebf-e5d6b92a9ae6 01:50:37.960 --> 01:50:40.490 This disparity has resulted in NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 63685369-2f7e-43b2-b111-708def601698 01:50:40.490 --> 01:50:42.514 continuing pattern of chasing, NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 5d3e78fb-e97a-43fb-a28e-db7bbd83ba22 01:50:42.520 --> 01:50:44.840 temporarily achieving but then NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 c8aa6a71-2902-4c0b-8777-5ecb97656d57 01:50:44.840 --> 01:50:47.160 not maintaining competitive pay. NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 a1988d6a-fb4e-4d15-a000-55f149eb3a31 01:50:47.160 --> 01:50:49.862 This is all against the backdrop of NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 0c79ca8b-ac52-4b4d-9be3-aee53b741979 01:50:49.862 --> 01:50:51.876 rising inflation and an increased NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 3f8773df-38f2-4432-a30c-d51766b27cae 01:50:51.876 --> 01:50:53.440 cost of liver living, NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 dfea18df-93ce-44d8-a39c-a7103476aa0e 01:50:53.440 --> 01:50:55.720 particularly for judges in New York NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 a6a2e84c-a432-4e5c-b854-e57e3990faad 01:50:55.720 --> 01:50:58.656 City And when I'm even though I NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 4df362b6-4a25-4f52-b215-12bdc5e0a248 01:50:58.656 --> 01:51:02.108 know that OCA considers Nassau and NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 073948e3-d5df-493c-aed2-7e57bd11a603 01:51:02.108 --> 01:51:04.616 Suffolk and Westchester upstate NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 0a12b9f2-6601-4348-91a0-ec369bace60c 01:51:04.620 --> 01:51:07.014 and as a Brooklyn born native I NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 89237a79-d987-4d91-a055-27168077d308 01:51:07.014 --> 01:51:08.700 consider Westchester upstate as well NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 9f26429e-4d4a-48ec-a547-ec4a07537da5 01:51:08.700 --> 01:51:10.494 but I've included that in Buffalo. NOTE Confidence: 0.9384461 7c61e49f-28a8-4c6b-830e-7938278afe45 01:51:10.500 --> 01:51:12.100 We don't we think of it as don't NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 f2ed65f3-6a17-430a-bcdf-4d0910ba600b 01:51:14.300 --> 01:51:17.052 my own geographical short. NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 22666330-6ec5-407d-882d-6dab0aa67a5d 01:51:17.052 --> 01:51:19.660 It's all a matter of perspective judge. NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 46446ac9-71d9-4ece-b4aa-c751eaa0a931 01:51:19.660 --> 01:51:22.092 So I'm I included them in my comments NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 5bf7bf25-9da7-4403-8c89-4cefcd867abf 01:51:22.092 --> 01:51:24.284 even though sure I understand. NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 f85e3c3d-e6a1-457a-8adf-1ceb9de7b136 01:51:24.284 --> 01:51:26.558 So the the 2015 Commission, NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 940044f7-06f7-4379-a915-e677b3d24b6f 01:51:26.558 --> 01:51:28.588 faced with similar static pay NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 bee58c71-576f-4b4d-9cab-6de309217216 01:51:28.588 --> 01:51:30.937 raises for New York State judges, NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 408cbb71-cc74-4bd1-8444-d1eeff273844 01:51:30.940 --> 01:51:32.770 recommended the restoration of parity NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 f30654ba-58b3-40d9-9b51-e3b1d6977800 01:51:32.770 --> 01:51:35.326 between the salary of New York State NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 d53a0dc1-9cad-4bb3-9439-75497308a8f2 01:51:35.326 --> 01:51:37.312 Supreme Court justices and that of NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 1bf5e6cd-1e9f-4296-9608-55714404bb27 01:51:37.312 --> 01:51:39.259 the federal District Court judge. NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 f22f764b-c8ea-43ec-b166-09e5f4e020ae 01:51:39.260 --> 01:51:40.860 The Commission recognized the NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 9a9a2a47-dc0d-4607-b6f2-b2a8895f4722 01:51:40.860 --> 01:51:43.260 distinguished nature of the New York NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 07a3a865-437d-419f-a26e-49e44fdd36c2 01:51:43.327 --> 01:51:45.357 State court system and acknowledged NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 a3998cda-32ed-4f33-94dc-e9a25be20129 01:51:45.357 --> 01:51:47.387 that attracting and retaining a NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 239fd8ec-5db8-45ac-90db-4cbb7529f44f 01:51:47.454 --> 01:51:49.454 well qualified judiciary depends NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 482fc3e9-ef0f-4d88-8d6c-3706e3bb3082 01:51:49.454 --> 01:51:51.454 on competitive judicial salaries. NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 58730cc7-29fe-4265-a371-333fb3218586 01:51:51.460 --> 01:51:53.390 Restoration of parity with federal NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 b8096a57-8a04-45bc-9c40-f683d5aa1f08 01:51:53.390 --> 01:51:55.980 judges should be a treat achieved, NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 33df6b26-6278-4d27-ac0c-e1458dd00c99 01:51:55.980 --> 01:51:58.242 particularly because New York is one NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 377a85e7-3b9c-49ed-871d-8371be71cff3 01:51:58.242 --> 01:52:01.373 of the only states that has not seen a NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 aeb5b402-f27f-4a42-9bf5-2a815e69ead1 01:52:01.373 --> 01:52:04.018 judicial pay raise in the last few years. NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 8e049eb9-9ac4-4d52-b980-0430409431b9 01:52:04.020 --> 01:52:06.820 A review of the history of judicial NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 53acd135-a515-4f03-b613-77dd5f64e916 01:52:06.820 --> 01:52:08.020 compensation is warranted. NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 7ed87495-31d4-4729-ac13-461611e2aa4c 01:52:08.020 --> 01:52:08.852 For decades, NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 12758c2f-e825-4f0d-a6c2-d086a520741b 01:52:08.852 --> 01:52:10.932 judicial compensation we was used NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 4aaef708-6e5e-4d30-a2bf-a53cd2c9bb00 01:52:10.932 --> 01:52:13.339 as a political bargaining chip, NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 8d96d9a1-e226-4086-8863-fd2c99990982 01:52:13.340 --> 01:52:16.924 never receiving independent evaluation. NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 914735bf-a33a-4d5c-9236-812f5a912f94 01:52:16.924 --> 01:52:18.259 From 1977, NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 ceb56c89-f8ac-4e7e-9d14-46a754d31e08 01:52:18.259 --> 01:52:20.454 when the State assumed responsibility NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 bf5fe7c7-69c9-410d-8076-910524d6de84 01:52:20.454 --> 01:52:22.210 for paying judicial salaries NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 8685b099-948c-4220-8e87-f0d9d9ad3849 01:52:22.272 --> 01:52:23.976 for all judges in the state, NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 a1a94500-cbf9-4718-9a79-045403292e18 01:52:23.980 --> 01:52:26.738 it resulted in an increase in pay NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 c405b444-50ce-489b-aa84-856282e98db4 01:52:26.740 --> 01:52:30.158 and the of those salaries until 1999, NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 cf8d9cd4-59cf-4017-ba1c-66fa4c326fb2 01:52:30.158 --> 01:52:32.448 a period of 22 years, NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 72a402b1-3589-4cf7-91c9-8b27c174fc25 01:52:32.450 --> 01:52:34.650 during which time judges received NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 149fe396-2cf7-45cd-baab-d5e68de8d0e4 01:52:34.650 --> 01:52:37.370 a pay adjustment only five times. NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 4a39cef1-cc90-497b-8bf4-b0031b3604f6 01:52:37.370 --> 01:52:39.230 In its groundbreaking decision NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 4c7c5973-fe2a-4eb7-9f8d-c1ebda7e280c 01:52:39.230 --> 01:52:41.090 in Marin BB Silver, NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 c6325c1c-e5b0-4c2c-acc8-1060da7e2521 01:52:41.090 --> 01:52:43.618 a case in which the City and state NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 d60e91a1-3f27-4dfb-9065-e61a22151f94 01:52:43.618 --> 01:52:45.369 judges associations both participated, NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 a130cb1c-b019-4595-bf53-0da0460ab3d7 01:52:45.370 --> 01:52:47.302 the Court of Appeals found that NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 adb008a8-ff72-44de-ae9e-342828195ef2 01:52:47.302 --> 01:52:49.250 judges were long overdue for an NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 5a75d533-bb47-4a49-ae71-5f7664174d0a 01:52:49.250 --> 01:52:51.343 increase in pay and that a different NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 4d3dfe66-8637-46f5-bdcb-422bce6721f3 01:52:51.343 --> 01:52:53.515 approach to judicial compensation was NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 48c173c2-160d-45da-ab4a-1aba6d59732d 01:52:53.515 --> 01:52:55.327 needed through legislative action. NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 536e0273-090b-4581-9155-e85f221caadc 01:52:55.330 --> 01:52:57.731 This decision led to the creation of NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 d95326b0-53da-403d-9463-fc1716ada86c 01:52:57.731 --> 01:53:00.280 a Commission on judicial compensation. NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 685d56ee-b9d9-4edf-8857-533998257514 01:53:00.280 --> 01:53:02.398 When the first judicial pay increase NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 b45eb6b7-7770-4082-874e-d26a1d1ec34e 01:53:02.398 --> 01:53:05.168 went into effect as a result of the NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 7512c551-f35d-4d9a-8178-b97b4bdebf6d 01:53:05.168 --> 01:53:07.480 first Commission report in April of 2012, NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 65416d2b-25a6-4afd-8f82-f88c79806c5d 01:53:07.480 --> 01:53:10.504 there had been a 13 year period without NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 b289cbfb-40bf-4c0b-8f2e-b0d756cec78b 01:53:10.504 --> 01:53:14.078 any pay adjustment for state court judges. NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 4b682bc7-ae5e-4809-9709-5f5f6161b18f 01:53:14.080 --> 01:53:16.840 They all remember this difficult time. NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 8c46c5e2-d201-43dd-84e9-f0098f6e72e8 01:53:16.840 --> 01:53:19.493 Many assert that they felt disrespected and NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 b23e9507-f5cf-495b-a291-910bd9af00fd 01:53:19.493 --> 01:53:22.080 dissatisfied by the absence of a pay raise. NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 e5587f24-bf8c-4dc7-8e90-c5e29ef5cd9b 01:53:22.080 --> 01:53:24.360 For 13 years, NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 f3f97967-14b6-420d-9dd1-bffd3d4ca815 01:53:24.360 --> 01:53:27.320 a significant number of judges retired NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 054272f6-6880-42d0-adf2-57499c0bcc64 01:53:27.320 --> 01:53:30.720 and left office due to pay stagnation. NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 2f0059b7-3e13-4f44-bfb3-f5db9e0dbd47 01:53:30.720 --> 01:53:32.748 A failure to achieve pay parity NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 29f25774-ab63-45cb-af2e-8f32db04f657 01:53:32.748 --> 01:53:34.630 at this time would effectively NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 ccf4cc3d-9e40-4277-8557-481a80cdb99b 01:53:34.630 --> 01:53:37.354 result in an eightyear wage freeze. NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 172ef5cd-9581-44c5-a79c-f46dd922c016 01:53:37.360 --> 01:53:39.430 This would not only devalue the NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 56621feb-f137-4b78-8c12-b48f2916b0c7 01:53:39.430 --> 01:53:41.257 important role that the judiciary NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 4ca0d3da-8e6c-4bf5-ba39-0b3713b67057 01:53:41.257 --> 01:53:43.549 plays as an independent and coequal NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 d716b764-9ea8-42b8-b830-47ff7d3c98fa 01:53:43.549 --> 01:53:45.520 branch of state governments, NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 49683ebb-ec59-4f33-b9ee-d6eefb7acb68 01:53:45.520 --> 01:53:48.208 but it would also deter qualified NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 1ef205a1-1980-44a5-91ed-f0f985ab7298 01:53:48.208 --> 01:53:50.570 lawyers from seeking judicial office. NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 a68e3a44-0ff2-45ba-bca9-91b41f2b3511 01:53:50.570 --> 01:53:52.450 Our performance merits this NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 ec8c3f5e-c139-443e-aed6-b498bf6fb6b7 01:53:52.450 --> 01:53:54.330 level of compensate compensation, NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 78909fa4-992d-43bb-8034-dfab22830e04 01:53:54.330 --> 01:53:56.502 especially in light of the additional NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 3beebfe0-f7ea-4aa2-a7a3-422fffe14efe 01:53:56.502 --> 01:53:58.451 burdens that New York's judges NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 bbdf2ddc-1de7-4bf4-a6a8-2ff921fd2b6d 01:53:58.451 --> 01:54:00.207 faced throughout the pandemic. NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 96b1de2e-ca08-465e-8481-2624644edacc 01:54:00.210 --> 01:54:03.474 As we dispense justice each day am in NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 447d3756-dfa4-484f-9f70-dcd0a4fa4048 01:54:03.474 --> 01:54:05.968 courtroom closures and remote operations, NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 408b2aa6-6099-46ad-aefd-43dfe88c71c8 01:54:05.970 --> 01:54:08.136 I believe it would be appropriate NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 0f917680-d1ef-4767-896b-92448e36f87b 01:54:08.136 --> 01:54:10.587 to to discuss numbers and statistics NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 91e587ea-b880-4c25-b9b6-fe281818a40d 01:54:10.587 --> 01:54:12.467 that highlight my arguments, NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 1a99cc08-40a3-4eaa-8eb8-cd38846bf5d5 01:54:12.470 --> 01:54:14.426 particularly that New York State judges, NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 8abdaf71-97ad-4002-be2d-712fd8325b8d 01:54:14.430 --> 01:54:15.252 particularly downstate, NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 d9f8f9bf-9f25-4630-bc2a-a41b1a1cf959 01:54:15.252 --> 01:54:17.718 face a crushing docket and should NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 a6b09fc4-a3f1-44fa-8c66-7b64621c2637 01:54:17.718 --> 01:54:19.816 be compensated for their efforts in NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 d83e56f8-e3aa-474e-833e-f5f3dff10133 01:54:19.816 --> 01:54:21.634 managing the needs of a severely NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 8f9ef73b-d6e5-434d-bf75-dcb0f38e982d 01:54:21.691 --> 01:54:24.148 overburdened court system in New York City. NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 6c313e90-9d1c-437d-87dc-ec8fc71e6bb7 01:54:24.150 --> 01:54:27.132 There are 176 Supreme Court justices NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 b3c3690a-9cfd-4988-b0d5-d26058e9fbd8 01:54:27.132 --> 01:54:31.733 in the city of New York out of 374 NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 3fb06a92-9a2d-4b2b-a1c7-cef562cfd0c3 01:54:31.733 --> 01:54:34.031 in the state that's authorized by NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 c1c2920c-49c8-43fa-a77d-37459af4d697 01:54:34.031 --> 01:54:36.462 statute to manage New York City's NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 7f081709-4aeb-480c-85ca-25abd7f0e097 01:54:36.462 --> 01:54:37.270 court system. NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 38b0205e-cf9a-4c88-bb7b-9f3b121115bb 01:54:37.270 --> 01:54:39.724 The caseloads in New York City NOTE Confidence: 0.9400735 7a0fa005-8486-4dc6-8f3f-c8ef29665212 01:54:39.724 --> 01:54:41.360 are staggering and increasing NOTE Confidence: 0.9401767 6961e1a6-82bf-46af-9b40-7f6bb24fc1fe 01:54:41.434 --> 01:54:44.406 in complexity. In one year 2022, NOTE Confidence: 0.9401767 fb6e7e89-b1f0-49f2-8494-dd46a3fd0fd7 01:54:44.406 --> 01:54:47.430 New York's courts resolved more than NOTE Confidence: 0.9401767 3cebfa79-bf62-438e-bdd5-37d676c84ec7 01:54:47.430 --> 01:54:50.148 2.1 million cases across the state. NOTE Confidence: 0.9401767 9b5d74c7-cdd9-4981-a1d5-9ff22237ccd4 01:54:50.150 --> 01:54:53.398 During that same year, the New York NOTE Confidence: 0.9401767 0aab167e-f4bf-4bd2-b08c-e8a7c58f5835 01:54:53.398 --> 01:54:57.830 Supreme Court managed 314 four hundred NOTE Confidence: 0.94328815 17cecc49-7aa0-46bd-beec-4d5a9f510657 01:54:59.870 --> 01:55:02.570 314,420 civil filings and close NOTE Confidence: 0.94328815 2c026ee7-0d42-43fd-b532-eec2f190d893 01:55:02.570 --> 01:55:05.348 to 30,000 criminal filings NOTE Confidence: 0.94328815 fe89c8cb-c086-4ba9-9639-825c744a4a92 01:55:05.348 --> 01:55:08.804 that represented over 840 new NOTE Confidence: 0.94328815 40f2cb9a-ae89-4276-a04c-93f855965ee4 01:55:08.804 --> 01:55:11.839 filings per judge per year. NOTE Confidence: 0.94328815 94e14bc7-f9c4-42c5-8108-942ed178b926 01:55:11.840 --> 01:55:14.168 New York's Supreme Court NOTE Confidence: 0.94328815 8e607ecb-40b9-447a-89f5-a4a77053cb3e 01:55:14.168 --> 01:55:16.760 Justices also handled 154 a NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 1f165ace-8794-4f48-bee4-b9ffe2f71c5c 01:55:18.880 --> 01:55:20.359 152,485 new cases, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 17d279a5-0631-4fc7-941c-2684ffe8b29a 01:55:22.760 --> 01:55:24.080 34,527 notes of issues, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 0a6a3762-ebed-4483-a563-848b4da57ea2 01:55:27.760 --> 01:55:29.052 152,762 dispositions, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 fc704318-bcec-4721-96a3-4070e4084008 01:55:29.052 --> 01:55:31.636 and thirty 1020 settlements. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 41494aad-dbbc-42ca-9249-743ce3adc8df 01:55:31.640 --> 01:55:33.494 Nearly half of all these cases NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 9544e2de-89dc-40d6-b857-a365f1a76f35 01:55:33.494 --> 01:55:35.440 were filed in New York City. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 24a895ef-e21b-4a67-96da-0bf586288874 01:55:35.440 --> 01:55:37.345 The success of the specialized NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 0c0f9fa4-1341-4e1b-b932-d40e785c77a6 01:55:37.345 --> 01:55:39.250 commercial division parts have also NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 afc46c5a-1562-4ece-9334-321ca5c39f22 01:55:39.314 --> 01:55:41.575 made the New York Supreme Court the NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 58af6345-9ca9-4d71-bb60-3410d7f5a3e3 01:55:41.575 --> 01:55:43.649 designated venue for contract disputes. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 c693511b-cd1f-4884-ac0c-baf9a281d7b3 01:55:43.650 --> 01:55:45.650 Where the parties are not NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 ca83afe2-963e-41e2-a5b7-a62159e26e5b 01:55:45.650 --> 01:55:47.250 residents of New York. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 1e847cf4-f758-4dc6-a0b3-e2c46f4ce589 01:55:47.250 --> 01:55:49.135 NY State judges caseloads are NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 035249a8-ed5f-4ffe-b941-261b0bca20f6 01:55:49.135 --> 01:55:51.570 nearly double that of the federal NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 1d6c0529-0a4d-4b5e-b21c-1ae787fd5460 01:55:51.570 --> 01:55:53.510 of their federal counterparts. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 7034eb91-986d-4a58-aba8-0455167eadc6 01:55:53.510 --> 01:55:55.450 Despite the additional workload, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 3b9c2942-afe0-409a-830e-7d65911692c6 01:55:55.450 --> 01:55:58.180 New York State judges continue to NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 c40aedce-a0d8-49ba-ab15-285759250cd2 01:55:58.180 --> 01:56:00.950 see wage stagnation year after year. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 a1040b62-7618-41bc-b943-0b57c4dd5a61 01:56:00.950 --> 01:56:02.790 There continues to be a clear need for NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 d32de682-d417-47dc-acc6-85401db0f006 01:56:02.790 --> 01:56:04.628 judges with the requisite legal training, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 b124723c-6f63-42eb-b8ea-8522a33a8680 01:56:04.630 --> 01:56:06.510 experience and communication skills NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 7dd1a457-f936-4cd8-9275-b0f5c53fb90c 01:56:06.510 --> 01:56:09.330 to manage and adjudicate the millions NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 1529e4d2-45a4-4083-84a7-fa4453dccb05 01:56:09.398 --> 01:56:11.652 of cases filed each year which impact NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 dcb975cb-cffe-4dca-a2ce-e24c99031512 01:56:11.652 --> 01:56:14.228 the lives of millions of New Yorkers. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 f622aded-8112-44ed-a3d4-a1abeabb8199 01:56:14.230 --> 01:56:16.210 Depriving judges of salary increases NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 25a279ba-dbdf-4668-96ea-34a346179c44 01:56:16.210 --> 01:56:18.583 for eight years will return New NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 3d11fe79-9f7a-4505-9905-727c9c53f512 01:56:18.583 --> 01:56:20.551 York to a time when qualified NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 83377d08-6b28-47c4-8535-57014af375bc 01:56:20.551 --> 01:56:22.472 lawyers declined to serve in New NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 421cdb7e-179b-438a-b41a-e9e6032ded36 01:56:22.472 --> 01:56:24.509 York squad system in order to earn NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 39f9e162-eff9-4079-a978-bbb5bf343652 01:56:24.510 --> 01:56:27.270 higher wages in the private sector. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 67901304-ba27-466b-a07c-d7a259e0c086 01:56:27.270 --> 01:56:29.090 The pay disparities that have NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 391521a4-8342-4763-b4a1-a4cf8e573ec5 01:56:29.090 --> 01:56:30.910 resulted over time are striking. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 d84b082f-6f18-44f0-921b-cf7fe3031740 01:56:30.910 --> 01:56:32.456 Since 2019, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 2cc300b8-e11d-46a9-bed6-ea0d579443a5 01:56:32.456 --> 01:56:35.904 federal district courts earned $47,400 NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 8f33d3ab-3be8-44e9-949f-f37c3cbde8fe 01:56:35.904 --> 01:56:38.028 more than New York State judges. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 e710d592-cb5c-4524-9079-d81ba305f64c 01:56:38.030 --> 01:56:40.510 In the years since 1990, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374616 95acb807-441a-46e5-8ab3-25223e0e5126 01:56:40.510 --> 01:56:42.706 federal judges have earned A staggering NOTE Confidence: 0.9403477 8e7766e3-25d9-45e5-8e1c-a538f39f637f 01:56:44.990 --> 01:56:47.587 $655,200 more than New York State judges. NOTE Confidence: 0.9403477 c7734585-7ef8-4299-b9fe-399f6a7755cc 01:56:47.590 --> 01:56:49.550 When one ignores the cost of living, NOTE Confidence: 0.9403477 1b9f6f14-c536-48a1-8b2d-ca2d3f18d11e 01:56:49.550 --> 01:56:51.902 New York ranks ninth among all NOTE Confidence: 0.9403477 bdc4a970-5f98-4b59-839b-e861799744ff 01:56:51.902 --> 01:56:53.470 states for judicial compensation. NOTE Confidence: 0.9403477 e8794e8b-4ca8-486f-af47-141fc6cafd46 01:56:53.470 --> 01:56:56.310 When adjusted for for the cost of living, NOTE Confidence: 0.9403477 efbbbddf-ff85-465c-8fd1-f6bfd3b304ee 01:56:56.310 --> 01:56:58.725 however, New York actually ranks NOTE Confidence: 0.9403477 7e788990-9c3e-4f24-b33c-8d7d43445a45 01:56:58.725 --> 01:57:00.490 12 with an adjusted salary of NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 226085a5-abb5-4047-802c-1863dc9c5989 01:57:03.170 --> 01:57:05.330 $187,863. We all know that inflation NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 09c3ed59-3448-4e33-8446-b468d197f972 01:57:05.330 --> 01:57:08.235 and and the rising cost of living NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 5be28c78-8eee-4b3e-a7d2-a391ec984836 01:57:08.235 --> 01:57:10.565 effectively diminishes one's buying power. NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 f94e7066-92ed-4e72-a000-1b772c07f91d 01:57:10.570 --> 01:57:14.170 Since 2019, when judges last saw pay raises, NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 3db0703c-9a29-4b8f-a330-cc2729e9cb4c 01:57:14.170 --> 01:57:16.877 the value of a dollar has dropped 20%. NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 838287c1-888f-41bb-9f27-adb05d7e92bb 01:57:16.877 --> 01:57:19.866 This means that New York State judges NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 00d70b9d-4324-445c-b3e3-bedf53d68f4c 01:57:19.866 --> 01:57:22.756 have taken a $35,000 a year pay cut in NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 58dcfc30-ab43-45ce-bfa5-085fbc669c47 01:57:22.756 --> 01:57:25.328 real terms since they were last received. NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 d45c201e-cbce-48b8-aea3-1ea863c7bc5c 01:57:25.330 --> 01:57:28.102 A pay increase downstate has been NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 90bd417a-1847-4214-ad59-31409c3ca707 01:57:28.102 --> 01:57:30.770 particularly impacted by the inflation. NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 3a0d70fc-cf2e-4a0d-80ab-e34fb6df6503 01:57:30.770 --> 01:57:31.570 Manhattan, Brooklyn, NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 f88a9901-85df-482c-ac47-eddc4de1a9eb 01:57:31.570 --> 01:57:33.170 Queens and Nassau County, NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 ad5d0d69-5e79-4b05-aeea-74829fd9d08e 01:57:33.170 --> 01:57:35.294 where nearly half of the New NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 c8e4f3e8-e792-4bf7-b8ac-144b3e3de51d 01:57:35.294 --> 01:57:37.134 York's Supreme Court justices sit, NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 bac06f5b-a71a-442d-add2-b480c9cd7f04 01:57:37.134 --> 01:57:39.797 ranked in the top 15 most expensive NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 9c43c4d0-cee7-4288-94ed-5309f1714973 01:57:39.797 --> 01:57:42.774 urban areas in the country in in 2022. NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 325d41e1-c590-41ff-8797-539b3e38bb8a 01:57:42.774 --> 01:57:45.198 With the cost of living index NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 47a9a383-3cc1-4e9c-aa35-399463e15c80 01:57:45.198 --> 01:57:47.650 significantly above the national average, NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 99771525-4bdf-4177-94fe-d7ea4f5eac6b 01:57:47.650 --> 01:57:49.465 mortgage rates have doubled over NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 8f72bcfe-5a4f-478f-a19e-6e8e882febe0 01:57:49.465 --> 01:57:52.253 the past few years as home prices NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 a3fed3f4-3560-4eb1-8b35-563623816d52 01:57:52.253 --> 01:57:54.049 have continued to skyrocket. NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 671ae41f-ad26-44d5-b750-67bcf90df938 01:57:54.050 --> 01:57:55.600 This loss of significant buying NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 fd908531-cd91-4932-91fb-9e95ef5e010c 01:57:55.600 --> 01:57:57.906 power over the last four years should NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 99018d0d-c334-40b6-812a-6f120f013fd4 01:57:57.906 --> 01:57:59.646 be remedied by this Commission. NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 bf656dd5-ed17-40b4-b4ff-033a1b962c81 01:57:59.650 --> 01:58:01.465 While achieving and the maintaining NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 08949dea-e37b-4a6c-887b-6d9bab52b0c0 01:58:01.465 --> 01:58:03.930 patterns of vital importance to our judges, NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 833f5ee0-fa60-489e-8ed2-c0a50f5ecbc5 01:58:03.930 --> 01:58:06.360 the outlays funds required to do NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 a9c0fa53-8ea5-421e-a1ae-8e728dded417 01:58:06.360 --> 01:58:09.010 so is miniscule in the context of NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 85556d3b-e472-4c53-821b-49c49cf956b3 01:58:09.010 --> 01:58:11.535 a $229 billion in expenditures in NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 a1433efd-e81f-46a3-8db7-57717c7a947a 01:58:11.535 --> 01:58:13.299 the state state budget. NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 dda23113-a7c8-46aa-8636-84d37596c66a 01:58:13.300 --> 01:58:15.540 We urge the Commission to adopt the NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 1f6a11a9-0220-4e74-ae00-98d5496bc56d 01:58:15.540 --> 01:58:17.952 OCA proposal that the salary of NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 9862979f-bacb-4cfa-a49f-ee09cb05a4fc 01:58:17.952 --> 01:58:20.065 Supreme Court justices remain at NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 84aee6df-4c65-4320-a89b-ae52f88466f5 01:58:20.065 --> 01:58:22.260 parity with federal District Court NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 501bc098-b630-4a92-ac3f-609c51f6535e 01:58:22.260 --> 01:58:24.348 judges effective April 1st, 2024, NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 bd23a8cf-1c57-49a8-9fb0-eed1f250e2c6 01:58:24.348 --> 01:58:26.652 and that this parity be continued NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 3de21582-7d3f-4c9e-9fe2-b30203da689f 01:58:26.652 --> 01:58:28.900 for the subsequent 3 years. NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 1bb050a1-590e-442a-9487-b537e5c3bce9 01:58:28.900 --> 01:58:30.604 Next Commission is convened. NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 be5e367a-01f7-4d9e-a4fa-cdac5866255a 01:58:30.604 --> 01:58:35.220 Thank you. Thank you. No question. NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 551a4d9e-3758-45b6-8c32-49951a9f2a92 01:58:35.220 --> 01:58:36.820 Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 358cb1b1-1cd5-402e-ab45-b7c1fd77f4fb 01:58:36.820 --> 01:58:37.796 Judge Liebervitz, NOTE Confidence: 0.93497044 f3b08577-4cd5-44eb-b1a8-602a79ac996a 01:58:37.796 --> 01:58:39.260 are you testifying? NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 a7ea09d7-d380-416f-9747-8052256e4a9f 01:58:46.450 --> 01:58:47.970 Sure. You've signed up, NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 ce530d33-9041-4a34-bf48-dabeec547a13 01:58:51.690 --> 01:58:52.790 Okay. That's that's fine. NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 0665c8d6-ece5-46c2-80a0-92aae4863bf3 01:58:52.790 --> 01:58:54.165 I I just didn't want. NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 26ed6556-86bc-443d-8300-14f7e5c93f41 01:58:54.170 --> 01:58:55.430 I wanted to make sure I had NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 2dcafeaa-a1de-43f4-913b-bfde87f31b48 01:58:55.430 --> 01:58:56.370 everybody right on the list. NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 aed37797-c8d9-4414-8857-558620049b6a 01:58:56.370 --> 01:59:00.330 Our next speaker is the Honorable Susan Egan. NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 ef5f62c9-6f2d-4f9a-8c48-62916da88f65 01:59:00.330 --> 01:59:02.442 Judge Egan is president of the County Judges NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 dfdbb304-1ec4-4288-96b1-ca0dc2a37ee7 01:59:02.442 --> 01:59:04.008 Association of the state of New York. NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 128f9b91-c341-4624-bc0f-3514bc1b43de 01:59:04.010 --> 01:59:05.634 Good morning. Afternoon now. NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 e385fae4-453c-4170-83f3-c32c10ab433f 01:59:05.634 --> 01:59:06.446 Good afternoon, NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 8e387d19-aba2-4962-9b7e-6916c20dabe0 01:59:06.450 --> 01:59:07.364 Chairman, Commissioners, NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 c9900986-94a5-47d6-860e-58f8a770e0ce 01:59:07.364 --> 01:59:10.106 thank you very much for the NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 3c668ea3-0930-460f-b24d-557f8919fa43 01:59:10.106 --> 01:59:12.282 opportunity to address you today NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 e4e63681-64ee-4bb6-9646-4d37201c0ca0 01:59:12.282 --> 01:59:14.658 and thank you for volunteering your NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 b5d8e449-3876-4f31-9884-50716401b008 01:59:14.658 --> 01:59:17.228 time to consider this very important NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 1e951487-f5cf-472f-8fc2-54169000e6ed 01:59:17.228 --> 01:59:19.250 issue as Judge Fahey has indicated. NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 d0ad47ec-64a1-44ce-8565-a93e944ade34 01:59:19.250 --> 01:59:21.326 My name is Judge Susan Egan. NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 2cf2e749-0fac-4efc-9fd1-e13af4fa0e51 01:59:21.330 --> 01:59:24.210 I am an elected Erie County Court Judge, NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 80ec94fe-d790-41b1-83b5-0704d09c845b 01:59:24.210 --> 01:59:26.490 a designated Youth Part Judge, NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 48f6cc29-e555-4350-a1c0-3870ba15ca05 01:59:26.490 --> 01:59:28.410 the Supervising Criminal Court Judge NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 bae80c1c-8ead-4fe6-91fc-103835af9245 01:59:28.410 --> 01:59:30.330 for the 8th Judicial District, NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 81135ff7-d846-4dde-b658-cf2028b7f16b 01:59:30.330 --> 01:59:32.500 and the President of the New York NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 ecff357b-33eb-4939-8458-84b6243b0bff 01:59:32.500 --> 01:59:34.629 State County Court Judges Association. NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 dea9321a-d59f-4e8b-8a60-78de9739e5d8 01:59:34.630 --> 01:59:36.998 I am honored to be here today specifically NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 8b1b8010-b0a4-4f5b-8115-f4a764deb650 01:59:36.998 --> 01:59:39.186 on behalf of the County Court judges, NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 faff1154-3a64-470d-b17a-0fecbda27b56 01:59:39.190 --> 01:59:41.654 but also on behalf of all of my NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 0e7e1ec1-6416-4cb5-bf11-69d7e793e8a0 01:59:41.654 --> 01:59:43.673 Criminal Court judges in the 8 NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 3b5369f9-39eb-4d6b-801b-adde28b880eb 01:59:43.673 --> 01:59:45.343 counties of Western New York. NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 837ecadc-e2f8-4f1a-a871-7d62c38c0f2e 01:59:45.350 --> 01:59:47.190 These county or these judges, NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 e2188703-7f51-4ca4-8308-fdf3399007de 01:59:47.190 --> 01:59:49.498 some elected, others appointed, NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 fdec1498-0eda-46bc-af67-def98c40e2c6 01:59:49.498 --> 01:59:51.229 are highly educated, NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 439d1efd-7e4c-4b40-b6fa-72ace59a50ac 01:59:51.230 --> 01:59:51.760 dedicated, NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 92f9a9cb-df55-479a-9f04-fc76dff7a1c6 01:59:51.760 --> 01:59:54.410 and knowledgeable professionals that work NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 71b35705-3f4f-4cb8-9071-3993eec15ce9 01:59:54.410 --> 01:59:58.229 hard to serve their communities every day, NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 64b1f7b5-c5bd-4cc4-80d9-e8b2c3a4319f 01:59:58.230 --> 02:00:00.655 while county courts have both NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 5f5c90dc-84dd-4ba2-bb96-e69a4551e067 02:00:00.655 --> 02:00:02.595 civil and criminal jurisdiction. NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 74ac13a7-5b56-4b83-8478-c997735b7716 02:00:02.600 --> 02:00:04.725 The bulk of the traditional NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 4c806a0d-ad5d-4d5a-b47b-ff9c10c21078 02:00:04.725 --> 02:00:06.000 caseload is criminal, NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 8428a64d-c91f-4689-8b4f-d00b2611bd24 02:00:06.000 --> 02:00:09.756 which is intense and emotionally draining. NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 235070e2-226b-48d0-abef-b39a16a09ae5 02:00:09.760 --> 02:00:12.368 We routinely handle cases NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 44a6c8a2-f9bf-4cfb-8776-9795fe456578 02:00:12.368 --> 02:00:14.324 involving unspeakable violence NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 111210f1-58cb-4c0c-a24f-d0c920abf7b5 02:00:14.324 --> 02:00:16.280 and volatile individuals. NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 3e21ce38-8235-426a-b474-c73908ec9fc5 02:00:16.280 --> 02:00:18.704 We are tasked with ensuring that NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 ac4001f5-6aed-4e3f-9b9e-e441754bd786 02:00:18.704 --> 02:00:20.719 criminal defendants receive the full NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 547e6834-b7dd-4314-8dbe-fe092bae5ca6 02:00:20.719 --> 02:00:22.723 benefits of their rights as guaranteed NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 ad9a8bc5-9b4a-4c68-b27b-cefca5b41cba 02:00:22.723 --> 02:00:25.876 by the US and New York State constitutions, NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 3742c5ce-5276-4c3c-86de-a774aa5b549b 02:00:25.880 --> 02:00:28.145 while balancing the needs of NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 8247a706-d282-4e0e-a142-ec54dbec32e6 02:00:28.145 --> 02:00:29.957 the victims and society. NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 10db536e-c3ef-4eb8-8894-191cb7595319 02:00:29.960 --> 02:00:32.543 It is not uncommon for county court NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 8552b494-e22b-4827-855c-b87150fa621c 02:00:32.543 --> 02:00:34.732 judges to preside over lengthy NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 62c1f9df-763b-4bc1-88b5-1001496c42c8 02:00:34.732 --> 02:00:36.238 and contentious trials, NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 4f6863f5-662f-43f6-9f06-48ffa9a9d4a1 02:00:36.240 --> 02:00:39.096 consuming all of our time and impeding NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 ef64f623-52e2-44aa-9488-f07127a03012 02:00:39.096 --> 02:00:41.459 our ability to meaningfully address NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 68b15fb4-e951-4e53-b87e-6a2edebe45a0 02:00:41.459 --> 02:00:44.633 the other demands of our caseload. NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 ddc89136-b7c4-4558-a036-d36b80a2aeb8 02:00:44.640 --> 02:00:47.352 Many of us have also been NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 856b7569-4cef-4b97-84c0-8105a4ac4f1d 02:00:47.352 --> 02:00:49.160 designated Youth Part Judges. NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 05f5c279-f693-4db3-899b-d53ffa8603b4 02:00:49.160 --> 02:00:51.360 These cases require significantly NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 7f095b85-1edc-4d50-82d2-0d28760cb7cb 02:00:51.360 --> 02:00:53.560 more time and attention, NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 3107b492-65b1-40bd-b83b-633148c53d24 02:00:53.560 --> 02:00:56.150 involving new and different hearings NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 001507ea-4121-4464-9f31-5db9517c7b04 02:00:56.150 --> 02:00:58.222 and fact finding determinations NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 74117f39-d4b8-46fd-8062-1d1318139ff4 02:00:58.222 --> 02:01:00.720 at the inception of the case. NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 3e911bb3-e6e6-4608-81cc-d6ca1b84b6b3 02:01:00.720 --> 02:01:04.566 In short, our caseloads are heavy. NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 21352dac-d069-49f9-a566-c868970c0f21 02:01:04.570 --> 02:01:06.514 This is stressful, NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 322dae23-b638-4d13-9613-47894b5c26ab 02:01:06.514 --> 02:01:07.810 timeconsuming work, NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 29fb147e-d6da-4aed-9efb-b863cce7a067 02:01:07.810 --> 02:01:09.712 often involving difficult NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 902d6129-04a0-46cc-b976-a14a51160b23 02:01:09.712 --> 02:01:12.248 decisions about people's lives. NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 48fa8bf2-7a3c-43c4-81e5-d5ba9d575105 02:01:12.250 --> 02:01:14.665 The burden of this work is something NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 ac465a31-8edb-4c5a-a05f-4de34ef3b694 02:01:14.665 --> 02:01:17.088 that we often carry home with us, NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 20e4f069-8a27-4ef7-9d0d-105ac20b1acc 02:01:17.090 --> 02:01:19.634 as well as the requirement that we be NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 e712502c-4e44-47c2-9000-4ea1f7702f55 02:01:19.634 --> 02:01:22.760 on call during off hours for emergency NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 a4ced230-9ec8-40e0-bb6a-20a918171573 02:01:22.760 --> 02:01:25.170 applications such as search warrants, NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 cf07b153-6b31-417f-8623-197884c47700 02:01:25.170 --> 02:01:25.992 arraignments, NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 513314df-f511-473c-8888-47ed0a223327 02:01:25.992 --> 02:01:30.924 and temporary extreme risk Protection Orders. NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 4dd2c6e1-0d72-41f9-b3eb-29b64de2b4ab 02:01:30.930 --> 02:01:32.965 Recent legislative changes have added NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 30f5506c-c064-4683-9e3a-1ab631663d42 02:01:32.965 --> 02:01:36.170 to the load of the criminal bench, NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 1e1dab8b-9423-49c6-8c06-a247f3c5aab0 02:01:36.170 --> 02:01:38.362 requiring us to respond NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 a1bccd45-309d-48ac-ac1e-749dd23f9be9 02:01:38.362 --> 02:01:40.006 to discovery disputes, NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 4b3e7322-e644-4cfe-855c-3f22cab8e4e9 02:01:40.010 --> 02:01:42.810 bail hearings and parole NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 4296aa85-8b8b-465f-8b2c-fc739782df4d 02:01:42.810 --> 02:01:44.210 recognizance hearings, NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 35ecc84a-c25a-4783-96a7-e365ec57c3c5 02:01:44.210 --> 02:01:48.530 not to mention pistol permit applications. NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 3f0b85a0-e553-437a-b941-4cfb90766a07 02:01:48.530 --> 02:01:51.449 Our judges have worked hard to understand NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 f2477133-2908-432c-ae4b-aa39b4e5601f 02:01:51.449 --> 02:01:53.926 the new legislation and apply it in NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 ed0f0876-64b3-4803-9de6-39f325beca71 02:01:53.926 --> 02:01:56.340 the manner in which it was intended. NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 db7241f1-f4ee-4bd9-85f0-00133fe97115 02:01:56.340 --> 02:01:58.938 We have adapted our schedules to NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 bb9acf9d-4e32-49d6-880b-71d0687c3d72 02:01:58.938 --> 02:02:01.304 accommodate the additional and short NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 34dc636f-ed52-4719-9cae-f91dd5766cec 02:02:01.304 --> 02:02:04.119 notice appearances required for bail NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 00289e6d-8abb-4610-9dc6-82958917ec38 02:02:04.119 --> 02:02:06.371 applications and recognizance hearings. NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 f51da882-a757-40d8-bdb4-ae736da6aea7 02:02:06.380 --> 02:02:08.400 Under the new requirements for NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 4821eae4-b314-4aae-995f-cd86af991a05 02:02:08.400 --> 02:02:10.016 the pistol permit applications, NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 b639a441-2060-49f4-b3f7-b023469a197c 02:02:10.020 --> 02:02:12.644 our judges must personally NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 a927d34a-e802-4e77-878a-996bb71c8fd0 02:02:12.644 --> 02:02:15.460 interview each applicant. NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 55713e62-a445-48d8-b7f2-9c01740c087d 02:02:15.460 --> 02:02:17.072 In my county alone, NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 4bd3fc80-f4ed-45cf-81b3-a17583867097 02:02:17.072 --> 02:02:20.620 we had over 3000 pistol permit applications. NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 2dc3c986-41ca-4f0b-9f9d-a1ec1ea034d5 02:02:20.620 --> 02:02:22.951 So I think it is fair to say that NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 7ddedd99-8b8a-4d7a-9dd2-bfe780b0a139 02:02:22.951 --> 02:02:25.537 across the state there are 10s of NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 3b24cb2a-2fa9-4291-9252-2e301bc97c9f 02:02:25.537 --> 02:02:27.630 thousands of these applications pending. NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 3847ceaf-c076-4337-9d29-4e10e2d6105c 02:02:27.630 --> 02:02:29.600 This is an executive branch NOTE Confidence: 0.94105655 fd84c6d4-8c22-4396-a3a3-d817d519568a 02:02:29.600 --> 02:02:31.570 function that has been placed NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 f06f6ad6-472d-4027-b275-56bffe2d663b 02:02:31.643 --> 02:02:34.126 on the judiciary and we are doing NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 14bcbf20-4151-4293-9dc3-4f336e70b03f 02:02:34.126 --> 02:02:36.878 our best to respond to the crushing NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 c712e656-7f20-4dcb-b9d3-cdd04c8edf82 02:02:36.878 --> 02:02:39.310 volume of these applications. NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 8f261e49-112a-471c-8a8e-61d3e22bb461 02:02:39.310 --> 02:02:42.748 In addition to this traditional caseload, NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 49684d5c-84a2-4453-afeb-59e5c460a7b5 02:02:42.750 --> 02:02:46.362 the vast majority of county court judges NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 ea530f2a-a13d-42fd-b345-d86f67d73f6a 02:02:46.362 --> 02:02:49.934 are multihat judges sitting as family Court, NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 a50fcd6f-2b9b-4127-8dd8-3d5f7219e616 02:02:49.934 --> 02:02:53.029 Surrogate Court, and Supreme Court. NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 63686687-1c4c-4c12-b81b-7626ed9cdeb6 02:02:53.030 --> 02:02:55.977 Many of them are the only Superior NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 d5545a9c-4aeb-4382-8597-92d3a31d7359 02:02:55.977 --> 02:02:58.590 Court judges in their counties. NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 73c94450-eed5-46f1-9f7e-33de3df74135 02:02:58.590 --> 02:03:01.600 They are required to be conversant in NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 6f52a91d-1c25-4cf4-aea2-2d8d06fc74bc 02:03:01.600 --> 02:03:04.545 virtually every area of law that becomes NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 289a9309-2f03-4169-a4be-1e14d109af27 02:03:04.545 --> 02:03:06.903 before the New York State courts. NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 4be1179d-5cb8-47c1-bb7d-efff5ccd8e03 02:03:06.910 --> 02:03:10.466 Quite frankly, county court judges are used NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 7936fb51-5276-4ede-907a-8b626aa7b3df 02:03:10.466 --> 02:03:14.668 to fill the gaps in our judicial system. NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 a9437664-1d74-483f-be46-791deef03f4d 02:03:14.670 --> 02:03:16.442 These, in my opinion, NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 84adae34-d5b1-4f82-9266-79fe397c6244 02:03:16.442 --> 02:03:18.657 are the hardest working judges NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 c2551716-e41d-483b-a977-56970ba95d33 02:03:18.657 --> 02:03:20.549 in the court system. NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 0855a25b-cd91-4832-a564-a2c1ecdd4654 02:03:20.550 --> 02:03:23.550 The work they perform is critical to NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 3db94869-3eba-45b1-b6ff-819dcd28f50d 02:03:23.550 --> 02:03:25.450 the individuals appearing before them, NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 fdb48586-151c-476f-a9c9-d887a263f864 02:03:25.450 --> 02:03:28.516 but also to the functioning of NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 4642daa2-ef19-4ad1-adff-aeffdeaf40df 02:03:28.516 --> 02:03:30.049 a civil society. NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 c32a8b6e-10fb-41ee-b5cf-67e5e294b7e7 02:03:30.050 --> 02:03:33.592 Yet our work is scrutinized and criticized NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 eef3d5b9-1e7b-4b21-a835-8b3e430dde6b 02:03:33.592 --> 02:03:37.010 like no other court in our system. NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 90147989-97a1-40d7-9cf7-2b3c923c258a 02:03:37.010 --> 02:03:39.566 Topics such as law and order NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 8622cccc-0230-4071-896e-03f4fdf09cae 02:03:39.570 --> 02:03:42.528 and crime rates are easy fodder NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 9975d94e-fe0b-419f-a772-62745660e236 02:03:42.528 --> 02:03:45.130 for politicians and the media. NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 1dccf7c6-9fa1-452a-a9e0-4fa3da42d7f1 02:03:45.130 --> 02:03:48.285 Articles are written vilifying judges NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 128feb85-06a4-4767-84a6-b97a23c2fb6b 02:03:48.285 --> 02:03:51.864 for being too incarcerative and others NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 e844279e-2cd0-49b5-9cdb-0898b002432c 02:03:51.864 --> 02:03:55.026 for not setting high enough bail. NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 959daa63-4b21-4ca0-9f09-2d51108f8f55 02:03:55.030 --> 02:03:57.532 While some might say this comes NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 5ad6fda1-fecd-4417-a534-fab3f22bd6d2 02:03:57.532 --> 02:04:00.521 with the territory we as judges NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 0a812a8a-9fdd-4097-bd68-4597f1951223 02:04:00.521 --> 02:04:02.829 are constrained to silence. NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 6c8fbf6d-f0b9-449c-b599-43bb2e26b2bb 02:04:02.830 --> 02:04:05.008 We have traded our First Amendment NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 94d61a54-53fc-48ee-bff9-c40488b6cca9 02:04:05.008 --> 02:04:06.950 rights and in some cases, NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 0c7ef248-9587-4d8b-8743-62877165b505 02:04:06.950 --> 02:04:11.024 our personal safety for the common good. NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 6d25c746-f025-4c4e-8657-d44df1f67ce9 02:04:11.030 --> 02:04:13.505 The judiciary is a coequal NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 ab852146-9d08-4f32-a30c-0740f178870f 02:04:13.505 --> 02:04:14.990 branch of government, NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 e961f127-5fd4-4eef-8281-77e377d84dac 02:04:14.990 --> 02:04:18.152 and the institution of the judiciary NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 4db55dc3-a81a-4244-b501-412b15ca7177 02:04:18.152 --> 02:04:21.597 should receive the respect that it is due. NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 68e62b6a-b220-4280-9eea-c2ccf17fec1b 02:04:21.600 --> 02:04:23.880 While I greatly appreciate the NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 c94e88a7-3351-4df6-8a3d-687f5b7c126f 02:04:23.880 --> 02:04:26.160 work of this esteemed Commission, NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 f91e761c-90fb-4ca7-9658-edf92344f177 02:04:26.160 --> 02:04:28.662 many believe that it is disgraceful NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 15b2511f-5c28-4b3d-aa70-25104ee27de5 02:04:28.662 --> 02:04:30.787 and degrading that we need NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 c4cbd5ad-82a3-4ab4-bf60-60f962f1c6f2 02:04:30.787 --> 02:04:32.677 a Commission such as this. NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 00dd3d9f-ab4c-45a2-9796-3dea09c77661 02:04:32.680 --> 02:04:33.796 New York State, NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 139e53c3-0f8c-4176-90b3-618e43ce9681 02:04:33.796 --> 02:04:37.319 a leader in this nation in so many ways, NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 be7d0afc-583b-4fe7-887b-85dbdaab72a7 02:04:37.320 --> 02:04:39.124 should have a system, NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 b1d910c0-e0a8-411a-8f0f-74e55fa1c796 02:04:39.124 --> 02:04:41.932 a better system to compensate NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 3cd2e31d-2e87-4699-9964-ef3468581dfc 02:04:41.932 --> 02:04:44.836 judges equitably and consistently, NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 72934fa3-f2a0-4519-bddd-042a2f5c736b 02:04:44.840 --> 02:04:48.263 one that does not require us to NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 700eb0ce-ee82-4c9c-aaa1-4b7d230ec90a 02:04:48.263 --> 02:04:51.599 cyclically beg for just compensation. NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 592d58d4-140f-4c6a-a4b2-f04aecb0df86 02:04:51.600 --> 02:04:54.864 I am not here today to ask for a NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 6023cdba-77b6-4939-b951-af1601ce91c0 02:04:54.864 --> 02:04:57.240 raise for myself or my colleagues. NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 5e936369-929e-4314-a8ef-15f1c6283661 02:04:57.240 --> 02:05:00.330 I am merely asking for cost NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 6f38338b-f2b9-4a49-ad67-a0fe5a45da05 02:05:00.330 --> 02:05:01.875 of living adjustments. NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 58a33325-97bc-4a68-a6fc-859c30eac914 02:05:01.880 --> 02:05:03.840 As this panel is aware, NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 c4e996cc-c75b-48b5-9e86-093e819140cf 02:05:03.840 --> 02:05:06.516 cost of living adjustments to salaries NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 fcb8e1fa-599e-4eda-b435-e8a190218f79 02:05:06.516 --> 02:05:09.260 are made to ensure the purchasing NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 0e28f412-0548-4c26-868c-a9fa79fda289 02:05:09.260 --> 02:05:12.326 power of a salary by adjusting the NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 14a52d3b-87e9-4a25-a030-4f241186bed7 02:05:12.326 --> 02:05:15.196 salary at the same rate as inflation. NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 1d143a31-f280-4f09-b9f8-34f62f6f10e5 02:05:15.200 --> 02:05:17.454 Judges in this state have not received NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 44caaba4-b7ab-47d7-a9af-2ae4ab8d80d0 02:05:17.454 --> 02:05:21.710 a cost of living adjustment since 2019. NOTE Confidence: 0.93482065 86f7f857-19b1-49f4-b49b-8176e667290a 02:05:21.710 --> 02:05:24.830 The inflation rate since 2019 is NOTE Confidence: 0.94605654 bbe29e53-44f6-412e-9056-16368030cc7a 02:05:26.990 --> 02:05:31.750 19.58%. This should not be a political issue. NOTE Confidence: 0.94605654 00e86327-40aa-4c65-8aee-9e7e619cf238 02:05:31.750 --> 02:05:33.654 Cost of living adjustments NOTE Confidence: 0.94605654 787c753f-ec11-43ea-9881-99875cbe4e7a 02:05:33.654 --> 02:05:36.034 should be based on established NOTE Confidence: 0.94605654 96227613-8f51-42af-940c-2d4726622c36 02:05:36.034 --> 02:05:38.628 and reliable economic factors. NOTE Confidence: 0.94605654 77942ce0-9a97-414e-bd10-677b4fcb1a88 02:05:38.630 --> 02:05:40.118 As an illustration, NOTE Confidence: 0.94605654 ba403e52-a99e-40ba-8390-440cf094c1b4 02:05:40.118 --> 02:05:43.094 I adjusted my county court salary NOTE Confidence: 0.94605654 e2f6521f-5cca-42bb-b8f1-4c891a3e63f0 02:05:43.094 --> 02:05:48.310 of 200,400 for inflation since 2019. NOTE Confidence: 0.94605654 d5018af6-98ed-47fb-b3e7-506a87adbf6b 02:05:48.310 --> 02:05:50.094 Relative to the Consumer NOTE Confidence: 0.94605654 34164b6f-e3c7-4d05-ba82-28cf4ae08eb1 02:05:50.094 --> 02:05:51.830 Price Index, it becomes NOTE Confidence: 0.93620807 95b1b9b7-ce94-4fa6-96dc-46382699de65 02:05:56.910 --> 02:06:02.230 $167,489.01. That is a loss of 16%. NOTE Confidence: 0.93620807 8bf8c574-973b-420d-a1a4-0ae7bdcdff83 02:06:02.230 --> 02:06:05.350 Relative to housing costs, it becomes NOTE Confidence: 0.93620807 4b4241c3-e8fc-44c5-8688-550797897c74 02:06:09.750 --> 02:06:15.270 $143,601.55. That is a loss of 28% NOTE Confidence: 0.93620807 1a67705a-ffc9-467e-b5b7-145792ef59d6 02:06:15.270 --> 02:06:18.860 relative to the S&P 500. It becomes NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 b0e83e5d-5af6-468a-978f-e53d11fb91b5 02:06:22.260 --> 02:06:26.020 $132,063.10. That is a loss of 34%. NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 2677baaf-bc58-4811-b49a-5b4ca0642adf 02:06:28.300 --> 02:06:31.555 According to the US Bureau of Labor NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 e9762f36-d3f2-4ca0-8fcf-62face842f37 02:06:31.555 --> 02:06:35.220 Statistics, the 2023 equivalent buying NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 d5cb8531-9d3d-4ed8-8085-6b011ec9652f 02:06:35.220 --> 02:06:41.740 power of $200,400 in 2019 is today NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 4661f5ad-9890-4661-aa32-f9284a95a744 02:06:45.900 --> 02:06:47.470 $245,045.95. NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 6790e553-971f-4397-9850-80ca8a6e650c 02:06:47.470 --> 02:06:52.670 That is a difference of almost $45,000. NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 cb795fd4-e692-44c2-9ca8-d869f652716f 02:06:52.670 --> 02:06:54.158 Before coming here today, NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 658b5f67-9bb5-467a-a3e1-ded51fe54484 02:06:54.158 --> 02:06:56.840 I reached out to the judges across NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 6a782c87-1f21-4ef3-859a-3c21666e4703 02:06:56.840 --> 02:07:00.054 the state to ask them how the lack of NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 a8874148-0fab-4a8b-9f4b-115929261861 02:07:00.054 --> 02:07:03.707 cost of living adjustments has impacted them, NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 ab5aadfb-a057-46dd-b0b0-06b2e292d7ca 02:07:03.710 --> 02:07:06.392 and what I heard is that they are not NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 0e612682-583e-4951-a424-c13fd941f32e 02:07:06.392 --> 02:07:09.385 able to maintain their standard of living. NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 e47d94de-aa6e-4435-ba11-186ed3ff3d4b 02:07:09.390 --> 02:07:11.868 They have the same rising costs NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 2979d2fb-2915-4440-8cde-8743e502ea6f 02:07:11.868 --> 02:07:13.107 as everyone else. NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 751a2865-9416-47fc-b784-f7dda250859d 02:07:13.110 --> 02:07:17.060 Food, housing, energy, medical expenses, NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 97562583-bf92-4f99-bb96-3dfa61f92b6e 02:07:17.060 --> 02:07:20.260 taxes, child care, college tuition, NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 132d43c3-f333-4bea-92b3-c903f4a118b5 02:07:20.260 --> 02:07:23.260 care for elderly parents. NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 6edf0c6e-043f-4957-817b-d3dd0c2a1ec9 02:07:23.260 --> 02:07:25.894 We all made a choice to NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 b7f6d41e-93bc-4275-946f-fd025c073b19 02:07:25.894 --> 02:07:27.316 become public servants, NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 ab0917cc-16ed-491a-bda5-75d2d9d80e41 02:07:27.316 --> 02:07:30.604 and with that we accepted that we NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 63a7a069-66d1-43db-b168-1eebe10964c1 02:07:30.604 --> 02:07:32.934 were limiting our earning potential. NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 d20e3186-3eaf-4a26-9eaf-d8eafaff3e13 02:07:32.940 --> 02:07:35.080 However, we made that choice NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 9f123853-c2ba-4a45-b298-a703cf0694c2 02:07:35.080 --> 02:07:37.220 based on a certain salary, NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 7f1a7de0-f473-49ef-a0f1-44a06bb1530a 02:07:37.220 --> 02:07:41.761 one that is now discounted by 19.58%. NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 eb40ab51-1e9e-41dc-a94d-6ef5aec92924 02:07:41.761 --> 02:07:46.668 We have effectively received a pay cut. NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 b2715be3-6226-4e97-94bb-f266dcf1e39d 02:07:46.670 --> 02:07:48.810 We are people with children, grandchildren, NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 8ad387e5-4ec7-4a30-844d-fe50c22348d7 02:07:48.810 --> 02:07:52.870 parents and spouses that depend on us. NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 30237078-ba9e-4c0d-8992-14648c4c6f89 02:07:52.870 --> 02:07:55.800 We deserve a salary that NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 0193bb47-0a95-44f0-b248-feb9c63333bb 02:07:55.800 --> 02:07:58.144 keeps pace with inflation. NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 c123574e-bfcc-4070-8f4b-e4a5473ecc0a 02:07:58.150 --> 02:08:01.230 I am not asking for an additional NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 e6fbd56b-a6ae-4307-96b9-33ef9cbdcc3b 02:08:01.230 --> 02:08:04.590 $45,000 a year for county court judges. NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 60d78a8c-3a1f-4252-b976-8b2ff7765b35 02:08:04.590 --> 02:08:07.182 I am asking this Commission to NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 4fda3bb8-9abe-46e6-87fd-448d4d82e3a5 02:08:07.182 --> 02:08:10.201 give us pay parity with federal NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 337a2f23-cd25-47a9-be5f-9bbf011c2a0b 02:08:10.201 --> 02:08:13.201 judges with guaranteed cost of NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 a148aa1a-cdff-4d4b-acaa-74edac4d1b6f 02:08:13.201 --> 02:08:15.530 living adjustments every year. NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 f892d60d-9adc-4808-9ce9-906d4d561743 02:08:15.530 --> 02:08:16.358 In addition, NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 b7734ed7-253d-4638-b33e-57ee100ec4f6 02:08:16.358 --> 02:08:19.256 given the volume and breadth of work NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 2c24754f-d141-4632-87da-ad49a6f5eaec 02:08:19.256 --> 02:08:21.569 performed by the county court bench, NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 afea811c-1def-44fc-ba66-ad8e2c05d53a 02:08:21.570 --> 02:08:24.282 I am asking that county court NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 7be663c2-b641-4a5d-bce5-534c03c060e7 02:08:24.282 --> 02:08:27.093 judges be compensated at the same NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 938666f6-3992-41e2-b0e0-c97c3110222c 02:08:27.093 --> 02:08:29.368 rate as Supreme Court judges. NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 7fdbd742-f218-443e-b690-cd39a659c8a4 02:08:29.370 --> 02:08:33.450 We have a new chief judge and he has NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 5cf16bca-b1cc-4592-9e59-d5a41ba79e8b 02:08:33.450 --> 02:08:35.690 assembled his administrative team. NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 c3c6e05b-6eef-4c65-9711-3b1d831b30b4 02:08:35.690 --> 02:08:37.298 I have had an opportunity to NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 0593ee1d-fc22-4d55-8241-d65f483c314c 02:08:37.298 --> 02:08:38.730 meet with some of them, NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 402a5b3d-e595-4342-8615-b75eadb1c93d 02:08:38.730 --> 02:08:40.656 and I've heard them speak about NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 95e0588c-3678-4769-ac26-0897a56ee039 02:08:40.656 --> 02:08:42.287 Judge Wilson's vision for the NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 a0593bb2-c6e5-4d21-8f17-e7bb5a13bc3a 02:08:42.287 --> 02:08:45.278 courts and his leadership style. NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 49e8448b-a3b1-49d6-bca1-1f26787b17e4 02:08:45.280 --> 02:08:46.099 In my opinion, NOTE Confidence: 0.94060236 1c106edf-f127-44a1-8fe9-1761069f3696 02:08:46.099 --> 02:08:49.720 it is a new day in the New York State courts. NOTE Confidence: 0.93298477 69a2333f-08b5-4396-b038-84049ee2c283 02:08:51.760 --> 02:08:54.640 There's a decidedly different feel. NOTE Confidence: 0.93298477 259d673d-76bf-4dca-9ba8-e70bbea1536b 02:08:54.640 --> 02:08:58.612 One of optimism and support from NOTE Confidence: 0.93298477 d2dc0341-26ba-4452-bcec-6f60b6307d14 02:08:58.612 --> 02:09:03.000 administration morale is on the rise. NOTE Confidence: 0.93298477 6ab723ef-ffbe-4a51-bbec-07a8adc5a0dd 02:09:03.000 --> 02:09:05.580 I am hopeful that this Commission NOTE Confidence: 0.93298477 911ddc4a-c284-4fa0-beae-46aefe6e79b4 02:09:05.580 --> 02:09:08.320 will choose to support the momentum NOTE Confidence: 0.93298477 750cb09f-42ea-4be7-a3f6-a7d621e28091 02:09:08.320 --> 02:09:10.675 that Judge Wilson has created. NOTE Confidence: 0.93298477 f40fd3e1-09e8-4b4d-8e1c-c93c31e06775 02:09:10.680 --> 02:09:12.115 Thank you for your time this afternoon. NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 43e17364-9784-4846-8f06-31b2c0e68b7a 02:09:14.930 --> 02:09:16.688 Our next speaker is David Shear, NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 4e1b58d9-55cf-413a-8e28-539b0986fa31 02:09:16.690 --> 02:09:19.090 President of New York State NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 d16aacab-8a25-4685-a06a-9fc4338ae67c 02:09:19.090 --> 02:09:20.530 Trial Lawyers Association. NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 4b5a5b5c-ce00-432c-bc07-5451bb375196 02:09:20.530 --> 02:09:21.570 Mr. Shear, come on up. NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 de727714-e2b8-45c9-b1b6-f4813ee85f74 02:09:24.410 --> 02:09:26.450 Excuse me. Good afternoon NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 7eb2a360-0ef6-416a-9a2d-3de5a4e4f86c 02:09:26.450 --> 02:09:28.130 and thank you for having me. NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 3c9d0cd6-d2c3-4d2a-a06f-ee8d63af811c 02:09:28.130 --> 02:09:29.756 I'm David Shear, President of New NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 f15c1a73-294d-4f84-9447-01642aa091e5 02:09:29.756 --> 02:09:31.450 York State Trial Lawyers Association. NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 28edf380-f38b-466d-8742-9ca7fd5a3e56 02:09:31.450 --> 02:09:34.012 Nisla Nisla has for over 70 years NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 457d7b41-75f6-4297-a1c7-7c1315f20cf5 02:09:34.012 --> 02:09:36.034 been the largest plaintiff lawyers NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 c106c7e0-b907-471d-9c5d-62b58003546a 02:09:36.034 --> 02:09:38.578 group in New York advocating for NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 c6b4e261-34b9-4597-bf45-d4486dd9879a 02:09:38.578 --> 02:09:41.119 a safer and healthier society, NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 c152a912-dfdb-4160-9d03-38681cb19362 02:09:41.120 --> 02:09:42.836 to assure access to the civil NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 88fffb41-f0ff-45a2-9c20-357a43ca8aec 02:09:42.836 --> 02:09:44.633 justice system for those who are NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 0becc357-da53-44a8-89a5-cdf20f8590d6 02:09:44.633 --> 02:09:46.118 wrongfully injured and to advance NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 9e5fb761-b7aa-4177-9f4e-deeed8f35e04 02:09:46.118 --> 02:09:48.133 the rights and practice of legal NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 c0c76fd3-4156-4227-8449-fc1577af615f 02:09:48.133 --> 02:09:49.557 representation by the public. NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 77e34e51-72c4-4ecc-b6ca-f8de95369b9b 02:09:49.560 --> 02:09:51.320 This will works with coalition NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 0d9c010b-01a5-46c5-b0dc-c59735ccac0f 02:09:51.320 --> 02:09:53.080 partners nationwide on numerous issues NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 e944fba7-5848-4c9f-a07e-3744f6eeecd4 02:09:53.131 --> 02:09:55.441 to protect the rights of Americans NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 3a09b66e-ef1a-4414-90b7-51a61299bc0e 02:09:55.441 --> 02:09:56.596 including consumer organizations, NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 ef0d2132-82ef-4fb5-b727-870af1f52dee 02:09:56.600 --> 02:09:58.312 health advocates, tenants groups, NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 75f85db3-1c4d-432e-9605-424e08defdb8 02:09:58.312 --> 02:09:59.596 senior citizens groups, NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 b4b9794a-8346-4888-8e84-55489d0985fe 02:09:59.600 --> 02:10:02.096 anti gun violence groups and many NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 b364632b-4e89-456c-9c4d-bf5a564fb8e3 02:10:02.096 --> 02:10:03.760 other public interest organizations. NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 44ef59d5-05cd-455c-ab23-6bb7abb66a05 02:10:03.760 --> 02:10:05.870 This will members represent victims NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 698a455e-82d7-49f2-9eeb-bb004e946381 02:10:05.870 --> 02:10:07.800 every day, and I mean every day, NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 9b30c146-148f-46d7-8849-b0fd59dc068b 02:10:07.800 --> 02:10:09.300 and every single court in New NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 37825898-7b38-4347-907b-0e1961361b05 02:10:09.300 --> 02:10:10.770 York who have been injured, NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 1fe0e252-12c5-49ec-a83b-3991f913d2ca 02:10:10.770 --> 02:10:11.990 who've had their personal NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 de01e2e3-f987-4566-aa96-c0849ddefb73 02:10:11.990 --> 02:10:13.210 and civil rights deprived, NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 88aab4a2-509a-4b09-a0f3-8b0e4a29d71b 02:10:13.210 --> 02:10:15.130 and who are seeking justice. NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 7e3a0be2-4d54-44b5-901c-fde7199ebbab 02:10:15.130 --> 02:10:17.650 New York has the finest judges in the nation, NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 9a8a8e20-f5a2-43a4-bc05-050f45bdf496 02:10:17.650 --> 02:10:18.056 period. NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 356547f4-eadb-4718-95a7-d0e0c91e3772 02:10:18.056 --> 02:10:20.086 But for nearly a decade, NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 96646cc6-8599-4f71-ac62-0f5002d1d64d 02:10:20.090 --> 02:10:21.775 this Commission has not approved NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 3e5578d4-e1ea-4b2b-9a93-3f56aab976f7 02:10:21.775 --> 02:10:23.804 a basic wage increase for those NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 2f18f82a-d962-4246-96d1-3489506a907f 02:10:23.804 --> 02:10:25.209 who serve on the bench. NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 6a5f9eb8-5423-466a-ad4d-9281a48d6b7e 02:10:25.210 --> 02:10:27.090 Members of the state legislature, NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 90cb5a25-bb03-4667-addb-91fde2d4334b 02:10:27.090 --> 02:10:27.756 court workers, NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 5eaa66e8-948c-4bbf-8b27-95e486253b8a 02:10:27.756 --> 02:10:29.764 and even the governor have all NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 0db1d8d4-12af-4273-8e5d-69aa69171da2 02:10:29.764 --> 02:10:31.449 received raises in the interim. NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 43d1b7c7-2564-4a1b-a634-c21fb7b2cfe9 02:10:31.450 --> 02:10:33.335 Our judges provide an invaluable NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 f82a489d-ab5a-4935-8fc0-f60c9862255e 02:10:33.335 --> 02:10:35.639 public service to our citizens and NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 4d9c6ee7-ab81-412a-9979-87116232c415 02:10:35.639 --> 02:10:37.757 their tireless work and commitment to NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 345a8f90-7c44-4aca-b578-81302aeaa8ad 02:10:37.757 --> 02:10:40.018 upholding the law must be recognized. NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 f46cbb68-696d-4b5c-862a-d380888e6bcb 02:10:40.020 --> 02:10:42.204 2019 After a phase in of the NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 6916d23a-3fc0-4f5b-b140-462fe5b48e17 02:10:42.204 --> 02:10:43.140 last salary increase, NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 b9aa92de-0a50-414f-bca1-99c9ad1c4b96 02:10:43.140 --> 02:10:44.808 New York achieved the long sought NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 a0c5f723-a70c-40e1-91e6-f3858de62c2e 02:10:44.808 --> 02:10:46.532 after pay equity between New York NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 dadd0f4f-c5d6-410a-b55e-a337e2caf393 02:10:46.532 --> 02:10:48.200 Supreme Court judges and US District NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 6b456dcf-59e9-4c8b-957d-76894b54d610 02:10:48.200 --> 02:10:49.579 Court judges that Since then, NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 bde940c0-5afa-4394-adb6-9d55d86b6cb0 02:10:49.580 --> 02:10:49.997 however, NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 ad365529-ba10-44df-8813-e9d7fff065fb 02:10:49.997 --> 02:10:52.082 federal judges have been awarded NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 42af3933-66a1-4fd1-b3e9-8021595cd3bb 02:10:52.082 --> 02:10:54.420 needed cost of living increases NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 09618e4d-0347-4fe1-93c8-eb5213645837 02:10:54.420 --> 02:10:56.135 during a time by the way of NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 8d92d632-cc7c-4d6c-a8b9-e22dca40a06f 02:10:56.135 --> 02:10:57.339 record inflation as we know, NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 b030159c-0459-420a-95b5-1202a8c728b2 02:10:57.340 --> 02:10:58.660 And our state judges on the other hand, NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 6804abe1-c3a9-4101-b1d8-0734f7835eca 02:10:58.660 --> 02:11:01.258 have not. We have fallen behind. NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 eb91264d-552a-4da7-9cc2-dc52e3474e47 02:11:01.260 --> 02:11:03.815 Indeed, when adjusted for cost of living, NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 b214023c-71d5-4248-b23b-ad0cebf197a6 02:11:03.820 --> 02:11:06.016 the payment awarded to New York NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 01a83498-216d-4b5f-b066-fb0e01abf645 02:11:06.016 --> 02:11:07.480 judges statewide ranks behind NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 9b10f336-f1a9-4823-bc13-5ab71e25f9a9 02:11:07.540 --> 02:11:09.100 several comparable states. NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 e1c34f5d-6f15-4819-94d4-64e0a93bc47b 02:11:09.100 --> 02:11:11.692 We're behind Illinois, Pennsylvania, NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 e8fd8328-cf46-46cc-94e0-81da5f496d07 02:11:11.692 --> 02:11:14.068 Virginia, Georgia and Arkansas, NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 d06ea14c-b554-4230-87f7-331eed535d94 02:11:14.068 --> 02:11:15.220 for example. NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 4eecaad3-7af7-4cf6-a0bd-6e580e78a35d 02:11:15.220 --> 02:11:17.348 And it goes without saying that New York NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 bb1229d2-fb13-4209-9c33-afb9c270b2ca 02:11:17.348 --> 02:11:19.499 courts and particularly in New York City, NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 f3d12ab1-9230-4f1d-8762-076969504764 02:11:19.500 --> 02:11:21.960 adjudicate some of the most complicated NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 99b55f2d-f6ee-4ae0-bc30-3808af317628 02:11:21.960 --> 02:11:23.957 financial commercial class action in NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 8b6637ae-0e05-4c85-88e6-f90a338f5b12 02:11:23.957 --> 02:11:25.739 other cases in the entire country. NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 f17b16df-7ae0-4943-beaa-e6a5ad7a0bd6 02:11:25.740 --> 02:11:27.084 It is absolutely essential, NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 534bff70-0b3b-4693-9cb7-e077150fb691 02:11:27.084 --> 02:11:29.100 and I know we all agree, NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 6594ea14-5449-422a-8c52-3db4338aa58d 02:11:29.100 --> 02:11:31.732 that New York keep and continue to NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 a11c4654-9d52-4293-aaeb-f49acc0e72bc 02:11:31.732 --> 02:11:34.245 recruit the top quality world class NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 e9c1ccdc-71d4-44c4-a0f6-013c866cea57 02:11:34.245 --> 02:11:37.297 judges that we have long enjoyed here. NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 30512056-2f52-4b5c-b7d1-dee30afff452 02:11:37.300 --> 02:11:39.148 We know what will happen if this NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 90edc453-6e09-4edd-aaf8-89e4944b9d55 02:11:39.148 --> 02:11:40.627 Commission allows the New York NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 ac5056fc-c4c4-42a1-9fdf-9ca5e8916c77 02:11:40.627 --> 02:11:41.899 judicial salaries to languish. NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 5a17c934-6d76-4166-b05b-bd0a6f66df8a 02:11:41.900 --> 02:11:44.300 We know because in 2011, NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 b4a93e48-7d70-416b-a85f-a5b3be9eab63 02:11:44.300 --> 02:11:46.379 after New York State judges had been NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 6eeefd27-c191-431d-a06a-1fd2d11d4ac6 02:11:46.379 --> 02:11:48.338 denied pay rises for a dozen years, NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 9bc0be13-02a0-4594-afcb-7317d3d113ee 02:11:48.340 --> 02:11:50.265 the attrition rate skyrocketed such NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 3045fe1a-ee08-4184-9b0a-db4e4973949d 02:11:50.265 --> 02:11:53.916 that nearly 10% of our judges left NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 8b14cd47-3c41-4d9c-a764-75b5c2d77fc2 02:11:53.916 --> 02:11:55.772 annually and our judges dedicate NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 8251c1e2-089f-47f4-ac98-6db94e666613 02:11:55.772 --> 02:11:57.620 themselves to serve the public even NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 3d6cb587-2a77-4286-92e9-fee864fd8c05 02:11:57.681 --> 02:11:59.409 though they can earn top dollar NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 d7b6ec5b-8841-401f-abd5-c1170db11670 02:11:59.409 --> 02:12:00.980 salaries in the private sector. NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 70c047f5-5201-4465-8143-1b70eef45e99 02:12:00.980 --> 02:12:02.804 We need to act now respectfully NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 e9401969-e386-4c58-8312-354beeb76e09 02:12:02.804 --> 02:12:04.600 to retain talent and give back NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 310abbc1-eee5-449f-9584-574ccf3c3a77 02:12:04.600 --> 02:12:06.399 to the courts as they give back NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 2a23fb1f-5b2a-4d07-aa6e-615b943b49ba 02:12:06.399 --> 02:12:08.128 to the people of our state. NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 88f0acae-4f8b-4470-a587-dab23b67f2a8 02:12:08.130 --> 02:12:10.056 The New York State Trial Lawyers NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 307448a6-f7f5-4c14-8800-4a7ae56f2c35 02:12:10.056 --> 02:12:11.340 Association urges the State NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 73de2499-ceed-45bf-be65-6240b0ae0d59 02:12:11.395 --> 02:12:13.078 Commission to act swiftly and NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 332cbe74-046c-497c-bed4-ab4e8a27a9ed 02:12:13.078 --> 02:12:14.800 approve a pay raise that provides NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 00409cfd-dc54-42ee-9541-b0cd051d3656 02:12:14.858 --> 02:12:16.568 parity with the federal branch. NOTE Confidence: 0.9379149 ecced984-3957-466e-81ec-7ccd0dc3359d 02:12:16.570 --> 02:12:18.530 The Commission must act now NOTE Confidence: 0.9334686 64b07bb2-400a-4825-85a5-7b6c45021e8f 02:12:18.530 --> 02:12:20.240 in the interest of all New NOTE Confidence: 0.9334686 56420eab-3148-48e2-b5bb-da867cc389d8 02:12:20.240 --> 02:12:22.330 Yorkers who rely on the courts NOTE Confidence: 0.9334686 6c601acf-7c4c-4f2a-92d1-f8be18fa4b59 02:12:22.330 --> 02:12:23.770 to seamlessly uphold justice. NOTE Confidence: 0.9334686 5024f08a-57dc-4de9-9e3e-d24539c7e648 02:12:23.770 --> 02:12:24.934 Thank you very much. NOTE Confidence: 0.9334686 477a658d-7d93-4e41-9a9b-9259af17e7a5 02:12:24.934 --> 02:12:25.807 Appreciate the time. NOTE Confidence: 0.9334686 001da9cd-e0bc-49b8-afd2-6c82c54fca6e 02:12:25.810 --> 02:12:26.650 Thank you, Mr. NOTE Confidence: 0.9334686 5680240e-9bad-4bfa-9d62-8e1df6c33ace 02:12:26.650 --> 02:12:27.490 Chair. Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.9334686 476afe7d-b7d4-4362-b9ca-4f2c9f41cca7 02:12:27.490 --> 02:12:28.610 Our next speaker is the NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 b66c922b-5b33-4749-8a07-5f35dbbdd91a 02:12:31.130 --> 02:12:32.994 Honorable Leslie A Stroh, NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 015c4d55-d39c-4004-b58b-e481b9680f7f 02:12:32.994 --> 02:12:35.790 president of the New York City NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 d723d50c-a204-4bc7-94d0-654833390428 02:12:35.878 --> 02:12:38.458 Civil Court Judges Association. NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 5ad99a68-f1a1-42c7-b8fb-cc5b05c09011 02:12:38.460 --> 02:12:40.578 Hi, Good afternoon. NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 d327ef94-4a03-426f-8c0d-3e3808677de7 02:12:40.580 --> 02:12:42.248 Good afternoon, Judge Fahey NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 7e700b43-f663-44fc-9257-c1261bd9c31e 02:12:42.248 --> 02:12:44.333 and members of the Commission. NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 63216157-0d9a-4e16-9193-2d573f68983a 02:12:44.340 --> 02:12:45.924 I'm Judge Leslie Stroth. NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 8a5d93ff-c9a8-4675-88e8-1ab8c030e147 02:12:45.924 --> 02:12:48.905 I'm president of the New York City NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 01c8a674-0ef1-4dc7-bd7b-4553f338a522 02:12:48.905 --> 02:12:51.017 Civil Court Judges Association. NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 d8a2e3d4-cdaf-48cd-b456-d5767c22fd43 02:12:51.020 --> 02:12:53.617 In 2013, I was appointed to the NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 56129f36-ba03-49fb-af72-f44b466f4568 02:12:53.617 --> 02:12:55.659 Civil Courts Housing Court bench. NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 f23c88db-7df0-40a6-9515-cfd47c4de59a 02:12:55.660 --> 02:12:56.632 And in 2017, NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 228223d6-818c-4cf1-a801-0ae4b3ceef21 02:12:56.632 --> 02:12:58.900 I was elected to the Civil Court, NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 7617020a-dcc7-4dab-955e-5936b0a5cc35 02:12:58.900 --> 02:13:01.315 after which I sat in Criminal Court NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 df32f586-fcee-4479-8d0b-fd224abd15ee 02:13:01.315 --> 02:13:04.136 in the Bronx for two years and New NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 8808a3af-29b7-4c3a-a771-06d039a63477 02:13:04.136 --> 02:13:06.633 York City Civil Court from 2020 NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 4ce8c591-003d-41e6-b199-a6fb2ae88500 02:13:06.633 --> 02:13:09.398 through 21 during the pandemic. NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 5df48be8-f1cc-4a93-a52e-cdb6184530c8 02:13:09.400 --> 02:13:11.675 I was appointed acting Supreme NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 ce0c925c-3640-42fa-baa1-a83256a048bd 02:13:11.675 --> 02:13:14.120 Court Justice in 2021 and will NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 b9603ec9-9464-4445-bf8b-2c6b1db3f5e7 02:13:14.120 --> 02:13:15.920 be an elected Supreme Court NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 29ef0781-f1b8-4876-a819-ce280f2f53b9 02:13:15.920 --> 02:13:17.957 Justice in less than a month. NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 382c30f3-5454-483c-a132-6b8a661e5b64 02:13:17.960 --> 02:13:20.639 Knocking on wood. NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 bccd2e09-9fc2-473a-b189-272c13d3acf8 02:13:20.640 --> 02:13:21.200 Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 dbfbd9fb-dc15-4409-b788-654469985bc6 02:13:21.200 --> 02:13:23.440 I'm here today on behalf of the Civil NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 8014e83d-f61e-4a83-aa06-0dd47b8624b3 02:13:23.506 --> 02:13:25.852 Court judges to stand beside our NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 a72f064f-646d-45d5-bd90-4fc671d8ad9a 02:13:25.852 --> 02:13:27.416 judicial colleagues and supporters NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 c08473b6-0439-45ea-b2b5-b4735e6dbe0a 02:13:27.483 --> 02:13:29.619 and urging this Commission to return NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 64400e1f-eea8-4963-bf76-bf3b9344902f 02:13:29.619 --> 02:13:32.478 to the federal benchmark in reviewing NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 8f370cbc-4082-474b-b5c8-3a9123a2e21e 02:13:32.478 --> 02:13:36.048 and hopefully raising judicial salaries. NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 3cb9282f-085d-4675-b25b-76aa70677649 02:13:36.050 --> 02:13:36.770 As you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 e19a0432-617b-4af2-8dd5-76d36095ebc3 02:13:36.770 --> 02:13:37.970 the rest of the judiciary, NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 a0eb00b9-7425-47d9-84bc-9507492ba1ef 02:13:37.970 --> 02:13:40.114 including civil court judges, NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 c7fa3c53-aedc-4e27-9243-32f703f1603f 02:13:40.114 --> 02:13:43.330 are directly impacted by your decision NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 69838ce6-cc14-44f5-a460-7d16b320197a 02:13:43.330 --> 02:13:45.290 regarding the Supreme Court salaries. NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 152b5857-2d6e-4e78-9fff-ada2a756e12e 02:13:45.290 --> 02:13:48.086 As all salaries increase to specific NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 f459cf3a-42cb-4e18-9ba6-a36d135d2b91 02:13:48.086 --> 02:13:50.610 percentages of those salary amounts. NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 2fafaf24-0c03-4e71-81b9-96cf229950f0 02:13:50.610 --> 02:13:53.473 I'm also asking that you keep the NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 359b6982-841b-47c6-aa4c-45a9b730f239 02:13:53.473 --> 02:13:55.477 percentage for Civil Court judges NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 c40f458d-bdb4-42dd-a4a3-4d8699752733 02:13:55.477 --> 02:13:58.261 at least the same as it has been. NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 108b4c40-a4ac-4af9-9a8d-7ebc9d2ee4f5 02:13:58.270 --> 02:13:59.806 Much has already been said here NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 2411345c-5f59-4763-a180-f8743538220c 02:13:59.806 --> 02:14:01.709 today that I agree with completely, NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 1b4defc6-b135-4e92-8eb9-b41bc504139e 02:14:01.710 --> 02:14:03.948 but do not need to repeat. NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 d3a8cd0b-3002-486b-ab1b-1f95d9feb5a0 02:14:03.950 --> 02:14:06.350 What I would like to do is describe NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 5286b703-1c37-4469-a189-0b49e723aa9e 02:14:06.350 --> 02:14:08.690 for you who are civil court judges NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 14d487fd-9fb1-4cce-bb19-84505958a790 02:14:08.690 --> 02:14:11.430 are what they do and how the lack NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 44ffe70e-fe77-4e69-9820-d9dc0f970a2e 02:14:11.430 --> 02:14:13.928 of increase in salaries to keep up NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 dbb79d53-e6d1-48f5-9684-794198aa0ee4 02:14:13.928 --> 02:14:16.124 with the increased cost of living NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 25dfcdd8-e868-44ca-8b2d-c3802b864264 02:14:16.124 --> 02:14:18.106 impacts so many of our judges. NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 4f832c6d-9d58-46e7-81da-80ab61271afa 02:14:18.110 --> 02:14:19.646 Although all of our New York NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 1dfe55ab-6c07-4284-91b9-51a0184db2aa 02:14:19.646 --> 02:14:20.670 State judges are diligent, NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 9befe411-d097-41ce-b11d-fd9090e18519 02:14:20.670 --> 02:14:21.723 committed, hardworking judges, NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 b902297b-92b0-4e21-9fe5-bdb192020a99 02:14:21.723 --> 02:14:24.950 the judges who said it in the civil court, NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 36955cbf-0fc4-41d3-a4ef-0cefd1a5c084 02:14:24.950 --> 02:14:26.430 which is frequently referred NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 d0e5b120-9db2-4fef-90a9-c8163744aa75 02:14:26.430 --> 02:14:28.280 to as the People's Court, NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 1287ba2d-e944-4cdc-9a1e-317cdfd19509 02:14:28.280 --> 02:14:30.614 are typically the first judges litigants NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 d85c346e-5b12-4629-ba7b-a7c20e5acbfc 02:14:30.614 --> 02:14:33.757 see when they seek justice from the court. NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 d82b877a-7f80-47ec-a22a-018325d44145 02:14:33.760 --> 02:14:35.266 Not only do our civil court NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 15468c10-c66c-49d3-bbff-12bc709a8c18 02:14:35.266 --> 02:14:37.000 judges sit in the Civil Court, NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 58c18477-c772-4338-b5c7-04b469b11009 02:14:37.000 --> 02:14:40.164 but we sit often in the Criminal NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 4a560260-1f25-412c-b1f8-96b50f51c4eb 02:14:40.164 --> 02:14:42.720 Court or the Family court before NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 134a59dc-f180-4ae2-848a-155b5a67a901 02:14:42.720 --> 02:14:45.120 we return to the civil court. NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 320fd25c-aabd-40d1-90ba-9deccbebeb68 02:14:45.120 --> 02:14:47.984 So we have to become proficient in areas NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 3b7e51a7-666d-495a-af8d-7dc5ffda85ff 02:14:47.984 --> 02:14:50.720 of law some of us are have never practiced, NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 674f8592-3dc1-4594-a4d2-37952678d560 02:14:50.720 --> 02:14:54.992 and in the civil court most litigants NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 206ee41d-faa5-4c04-82b7-553b9833a510 02:14:54.992 --> 02:14:56.822 are unrepresented and they come NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 81da9490-1afb-4139-b2bf-1fffcb8d7441 02:14:56.822 --> 02:14:59.054 to the court as a last resort to NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 f04fc243-08d5-47e1-acda-a10953fb2948 02:14:59.054 --> 02:15:01.287 resolve issues that they just can't NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 be0ce922-a2b6-4984-ab32-b9d22dacb144 02:15:01.287 --> 02:15:03.177 resolve without the court's help. NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 407c9479-5530-4f65-baab-18e0026769fd 02:15:03.180 --> 02:15:04.580 They come for help with their landlord, NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 7358fdc6-1132-445f-9865-a84707a023e6 02:15:04.580 --> 02:15:05.526 tenant issues, NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 df632eb7-675d-40a2-a0cf-2d2d64ab677c 02:15:05.526 --> 02:15:07.418 the consumer debt problems, NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 683b947e-046f-433a-b2c6-70db21ab62b7 02:15:07.420 --> 02:15:08.808 their small claims matters, NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 343c3ea3-2d1c-4ab0-8bbd-bf0593a6c99e 02:15:08.808 --> 02:15:10.196 and other matters that NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 e42d58d8-c8c0-47ba-8053-7256fd4281af 02:15:10.196 --> 02:15:11.780 affect their everyday lives. NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 45e83b2b-03c0-4540-929a-08b8444b1eb2 02:15:11.780 --> 02:15:14.300 The Civil Court judges handle these cases. NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 97dcacc7-7787-4e62-b553-eaeaaea4310b 02:15:14.300 --> 02:15:16.060 No fault insurance matters, NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 a9d6557f-a4c1-465c-9051-186dffd2aa11 02:15:16.060 --> 02:15:16.940 commercial landlord, NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 53f6da16-0d3c-44e4-b086-75c036bb450e 02:15:16.940 --> 02:15:19.658 tenant matters and name changes which NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 9d0161ab-e839-4cf5-a83d-1ea2bf8e71bf 02:15:19.658 --> 02:15:22.510 impact the very identity of the New NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 ff319c4e-0df6-4b08-9d51-b94b948d4f05 02:15:22.510 --> 02:15:25.350 Yorkers who come for the for that relief. NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 a987f05d-9006-4b84-8564-45a243be72f5 02:15:25.350 --> 02:15:26.970 Everything that happens in the Civil NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 e5beaca4-39b6-4041-866c-4bdde75b3331 02:15:26.970 --> 02:15:28.877 Court has a direct impact on the NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 ac947f5a-865a-4313-b760-bbd75f838dff 02:15:28.877 --> 02:15:30.669 lives of New Yorkers who appear there, NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 7978dc33-8932-400a-93de-5f425c79544b 02:15:30.670 --> 02:15:32.230 as many do not have attorneys. NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 4a48b875-0424-4fbe-975c-39c1ab13f1c2 02:15:32.230 --> 02:15:35.450 They look to the judges to find NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 0aab97cd-a946-49e4-bcac-519792013076 02:15:35.450 --> 02:15:38.775 justice and hoping to be treated NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 e831b16c-0005-422c-8ced-8e09989ba937 02:15:38.775 --> 02:15:41.067 fairly and with respect. NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 5bb7cfee-232f-4198-b7a3-40a82233bc3e 02:15:41.070 --> 02:15:42.820 Their civil court experiences will NOTE Confidence: 0.936045171428571 3b7190c7-9441-4339-b426-8915a0b488c5 02:15:42.820 --> 02:15:44.570 stay with them throughout their NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 af5a61ce-47e0-42aa-a3cd-ffef4305ebef 02:15:44.631 --> 02:15:47.582 lives, and our civil court judges do all that NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 417fe902-7ed1-40c3-b7c7-be393e642ac4 02:15:47.582 --> 02:15:50.626 they can to make sure that those memories, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 1e0b0c44-c868-4ac0-b569-dd036527db84 02:15:50.630 --> 02:15:53.200 that those experience are good, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 f10e5a49-9942-4b17-83d1-4debcd505b8a 02:15:53.200 --> 02:15:55.696 that at least they feel that they were NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 fb4fdcb7-0da5-425e-bc73-a92f59e2ec81 02:15:55.696 --> 02:15:58.464 heard and treated fairly, even if the NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 f1a02457-4068-4045-a2ff-61f0ca715e20 02:15:58.464 --> 02:16:01.040 result isn't what they hope to achieve. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 06ae62fa-a597-4a47-aa54-8f179040966f 02:16:01.040 --> 02:16:03.042 Most of the civil court judges come NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 96cbb4ec-f7bf-4fef-b636-3862007af65f 02:16:03.042 --> 02:16:05.417 from lives of public service as Legal NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 6b024d5c-185e-459b-879c-4d2f549887ea 02:16:05.417 --> 02:16:07.232 Aid or Legal Services Attorneys, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 ede9127c-eb7f-4132-a997-fb3bd1b35fa3 02:16:07.240 --> 02:16:10.276 Public defenders or ATM B Attorneys, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 b27298b9-9208-46c7-b845-e568dba65da3 02:16:10.280 --> 02:16:11.999 Assistant District Attorneys, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 8918f744-af51-4236-9b4e-1b63ea85a6d0 02:16:11.999 --> 02:16:13.718 Assistant Corp Counsel, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 03a17917-3923-4add-ac26-a33f18de8c3d 02:16:13.720 --> 02:16:15.958 attorneys with city or state agencies, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 ef1b8f64-76aa-4cfb-901a-60b1b929eb27 02:16:15.960 --> 02:16:16.626 court attorneys, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 2f0453f6-11f3-467d-8966-ebf79cebf71e 02:16:16.626 --> 02:16:19.777 and other areas of law in which they have NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 47b8d815-affe-4ade-9f14-9ead01becd3b 02:16:19.777 --> 02:16:22.309 dedicated their careers to helping people. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 2571c9cb-30df-4546-8db7-cb89e314edb9 02:16:22.310 --> 02:16:23.750 And for those not looking up, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 e048ba66-64ca-4b12-9606-e67a2cf8434f 02:16:23.750 --> 02:16:25.710 I was a public defender. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 2678e64c-d7f7-49bf-a60a-844ddf2af45a 02:16:25.710 --> 02:16:27.910 We were never paid well, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 89a8e816-6abd-4d1e-8e23-0cb3984776fe 02:16:27.910 --> 02:16:31.438 but we didn't do what we did for the NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 64ef78b6-e2f9-46a4-b08f-1690eea0456a 02:16:31.438 --> 02:16:33.186 money when they come to the bench. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 9aa772ee-de1c-41a0-801e-83bacfb66dba 02:16:33.190 --> 02:16:34.546 When we come to the bench, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 4d6b3291-4188-4f28-9188-961733b4d10d 02:16:34.550 --> 02:16:36.842 the judges bring our public service NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 9243f899-bf78-48a0-8663-1ef752de7104 02:16:36.842 --> 02:16:38.136 backgrounds, our compassion, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 54cd5a8d-2bfe-43cf-ae2b-c2e85d8313f6 02:16:38.136 --> 02:16:41.307 the sense of fairness and equal justice, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 8f62035e-3408-4766-a4e2-c25cf4bb5b61 02:16:41.310 --> 02:16:43.560 and that same work ethic we NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 a763178f-965c-405d-8a93-d26be324cb05 02:16:43.560 --> 02:16:45.444 always had as public servants. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 05517b11-b013-4697-b98f-af55830f3c12 02:16:45.444 --> 02:16:47.712 These judges have among the heaviest NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 0455f6f8-ae56-46ec-a64d-c29167835534 02:16:47.712 --> 02:16:49.189 calendars of all the courts, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 ba9d99c4-61f0-4663-a660-31817dfb877e 02:16:49.190 --> 02:16:52.354 sometimes upwards of 100 cases a day. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 3e9025ce-bb7f-44e2-976b-e748d8abb11a 02:16:52.360 --> 02:16:54.280 They work long hours, evenings, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 14166299-45c6-4ece-98c2-8a5179732fee 02:16:54.280 --> 02:16:54.650 weekends, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 7e6c7209-8c1d-4d52-9b52-a62522828eaf 02:16:54.650 --> 02:16:56.500 and sacrifice time with family NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 e6c1b4a6-122f-40bb-8452-2f4ce5a3a532 02:16:56.500 --> 02:16:58.509 and loved ones to dedicate NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 8d7d9ff1-cd62-4409-a965-db1417e3d964 02:16:58.509 --> 02:17:00.799 themselves to this important work. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 27a58a41-b251-4db2-ae53-fb39a36f86ea 02:17:00.800 --> 02:17:04.020 They also make financial sacrifices as the NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 20d170c6-e061-43be-84ed-42c8835d9043 02:17:04.020 --> 02:17:06.856 salaries they make don't begin to cover NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 f5cbc742-8161-419d-8799-f65b865ca93d 02:17:06.856 --> 02:17:09.040 the cost of living increases inflation, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 c5fd6a0d-b13b-497e-b6b2-8ec5a9452bf2 02:17:09.040 --> 02:17:09.506 mortgages, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 d3964045-c505-4b9a-813c-c013a633998c 02:17:09.506 --> 02:17:11.836 the cost of raising children, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 f6cfdf1c-40ee-4dd9-baa2-72c6a9e0b8e6 02:17:11.840 --> 02:17:13.877 and the many other expenses we have, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 d64ace6a-a8b1-40a5-a4a4-3ab516219b7d 02:17:13.880 --> 02:17:15.920 especially in New York City. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 19d7d1af-2ba5-4d5f-b30c-e8247f200b2a 02:17:15.920 --> 02:17:17.610 But again, we didn't become NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 ea30bc1d-9af1-40e0-bd16-befe83082720 02:17:17.610 --> 02:17:19.740 civil court judges for the money. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 8b7ce524-103d-4f12-83d3-97812b2f046e 02:17:19.740 --> 02:17:22.228 Even when we came to work every day NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 63040f1c-edec-4f42-9417-3533c161d9a1 02:17:22.228 --> 02:17:24.512 throughout the pandemic and saw the NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 daa6ba3f-11cb-4676-809e-4b050330e945 02:17:24.512 --> 02:17:26.696 signs by the elevator every day, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 242ca494-5471-4305-b0d4-a85870ad58f1 02:17:26.700 --> 02:17:28.940 the signs increasing in number. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 42ff5367-cc42-4e05-b6c2-ad1bfc26bec2 02:17:28.940 --> 02:17:29.490 That said, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 0fe1685e-0da7-4916-9217-f5786013bacb 02:17:29.490 --> 02:17:31.140 how many people in our court NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 2108c291-8d30-4d0f-9016-6ffc789c4b72 02:17:31.140 --> 02:17:32.060 buildings had COVID. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 88667042-15f7-4e90-beb4-8954f853508d 02:17:32.060 --> 02:17:32.933 We kept coming. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 43b00465-0973-4d26-b0ba-cd46a38b31f5 02:17:32.933 --> 02:17:35.700 We did it for the people who needed us, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 d9ea3cc4-bd42-4fae-93ac-664eb24d21f7 02:17:35.700 --> 02:17:37.534 the people who came to our courts, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 4f622cee-c115-417b-b900-cc42591074a6 02:17:37.540 --> 02:17:40.068 even at our own risk and the risk NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 5350a0cb-d2ba-4011-a898-aaa1cf208a61 02:17:40.068 --> 02:17:42.978 of of the health of our families. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 84bf7adf-7ca4-4e7a-b43e-e9457d41b4b7 02:17:42.980 --> 02:17:45.150 Civil court judges often take the bench NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 f55f731d-d1ee-47a6-be27-a587e0a720a3 02:17:45.150 --> 02:17:47.688 in debt from their expensive campaigns. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 f9f19d21-04e1-476e-a3c7-e247b95323bd 02:17:47.690 --> 02:17:50.138 It takes a long time to catch up for NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 fc1a1a6e-9fc5-4267-b968-c7974281c3bc 02:17:50.138 --> 02:17:52.730 those relying on just our salaries, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 271caace-2221-4cd2-b92d-2aaffbeb0140 02:17:52.730 --> 02:17:54.266 given the work so many of NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 92017d1d-7fbb-46ac-aa2d-7d58db060176 02:17:54.266 --> 02:17:55.290 us did as attorneys. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 67945852-aa09-4739-bdb0-5fae2695bfc7 02:17:55.290 --> 02:17:57.486 We don't have savings and investments, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 d7b8a6c5-a55a-4ecb-b541-a30b0d95373a 02:17:57.490 --> 02:17:59.416 and most of us have partners NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 7edf162a-a87d-4838-8132-444bec09a5c2 02:17:59.416 --> 02:18:01.370 who are also public servants. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 3a35d8f7-c051-474b-908c-60441d3fbeee 02:18:01.370 --> 02:18:02.258 Many continue, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 fe182d3d-b9a7-4804-a545-4ee6fc151481 02:18:02.258 --> 02:18:05.810 even as judges to live paycheck to paycheck. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 78c00fbd-cab0-4fd1-93f1-b54a970e098f 02:18:05.810 --> 02:18:07.721 Most Civil court judges are sent out NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 c2843ce9-1ca4-46a4-a221-2e24b9650fb4 02:18:07.721 --> 02:18:09.930 of their Home Counties to work in other NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 4d0870cc-79f2-4fcc-be34-b2b813dbec13 02:18:09.930 --> 02:18:12.090 courts for two years or three or four, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 be53faa8-4550-4bf7-b99e-7997aaa1a7ad 02:18:12.090 --> 02:18:13.970 which often means increased travel NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 cb6521e1-e71f-4181-ad56-62c45a1def67 02:18:13.970 --> 02:18:16.186 costs and time getting to and NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 4089b52c-9774-4a28-97d9-9a5868f2383a 02:18:16.186 --> 02:18:18.850 from work time away from family. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 3d764134-b6e5-4616-81f2-ed04eb6b9479 02:18:18.850 --> 02:18:20.986 But civil court judges do not NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 61b78d9a-eabe-4d91-8f2b-6ebba206d2a9 02:18:20.986 --> 02:18:23.183 complain because we are so grateful NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 0b049d1e-d85d-4b93-b02f-efd68d092dae 02:18:23.183 --> 02:18:27.250 and proud to do the work we ran. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 b1158c4c-2a8f-4beb-a703-0af063e41383 02:18:27.250 --> 02:18:29.810 We we can for our fellow New Yorkers, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 eeaed531-9fa4-4942-9e3d-57590a47476a 02:18:29.810 --> 02:18:32.650 many of whom live below that poverty line. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 9f9878a7-2af7-4ce4-935e-b9b0addcc0e4 02:18:32.650 --> 02:18:34.378 They look at our salaries and NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 b095081a-e30f-4b86-adac-5f0536a634ef 02:18:34.378 --> 02:18:35.242 think we're rich. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 5224500e-d17c-458c-a784-783fd80bf9ab 02:18:35.250 --> 02:18:39.009 How many families could our salaries feed? NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 bcee9fa0-b82b-478c-9899-620d5e5c3684 02:18:39.010 --> 02:18:40.870 Although the Civil Court judges NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 ea4fc741-b402-4d72-a113-75fa457fb0ca 02:18:40.870 --> 02:18:42.730 don't complain and don't ask, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 576ebe7e-16de-44ca-9d31-3ef446d09242 02:18:42.730 --> 02:18:45.395 they are entitled to be paid for NOTE Confidence: 0.9374816 54dbd82a-08c7-43be-bca7-4c370f808f9e 02:18:45.395 --> 02:18:48.090 the many hours of work they devote NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 abeeebf6-7f41-4582-80e6-f5adb7371bd8 02:18:48.090 --> 02:18:50.449 to helping New Yorkers have better lives, NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 54f09683-5cf7-4e1d-9721-6f6c6f88ab32 02:18:50.450 --> 02:18:53.404 have Peace of Mind and find justice. NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 d32ebb7d-e884-41f4-a6fe-bd04922725b9 02:18:53.410 --> 02:18:55.454 There comes a point when the sacrifice NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 44983778-220d-4ba7-9af5-815f672fae51 02:18:55.454 --> 02:18:57.782 is too much and many of our best judges NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 15224ade-d225-46f3-9791-393c730551f9 02:18:57.782 --> 02:18:59.628 decide to leave the bench because they NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 26bdfa41-892e-4f25-914b-b8edca28f8f1 02:18:59.628 --> 02:19:02.010 can't afford to send their kids to college, NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 40ea1894-102f-4901-be3f-e6d97eacebae 02:19:02.010 --> 02:19:04.730 pay the mortgage, take care of their parents, NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 06379ad4-1913-4009-9e9e-7b240b4e32f8 02:19:04.730 --> 02:19:07.290 and otherwise support their families. NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 5e07f867-ef2f-4b5a-a425-0704464dd870 02:19:07.290 --> 02:19:09.330 We lose outstanding, dedicated judges NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 5fe28739-307e-4b38-be40-b7bfda7ed697 02:19:09.330 --> 02:19:11.370 to the private sector regularly, NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 7bea718d-b38a-4ae9-9c50-8ef5bcf9df1f 02:19:11.370 --> 02:19:13.498 and we'll keep losing them if the salaries NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 33e913bf-783f-4d56-b2bc-9f78b42eecd6 02:19:13.498 --> 02:19:15.548 don't keep pace with the cost of living, NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 e6062d95-8dad-4f49-bd67-d8b645376df9 02:19:15.550 --> 02:19:18.226 especially here in New York City. NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 0a1ca870-9f5d-4e3d-a9f6-04abab7a7275 02:19:18.230 --> 02:19:20.834 Worse yet, there are many qualified NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 e588daa0-6c5e-4201-b17a-caaf63ebc3f4 02:19:20.834 --> 02:19:23.750 attorneys who could add to the richness NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 2c4ea279-a1fc-4c98-9acc-edbfb2e516d2 02:19:23.750 --> 02:19:28.349 of the diversity of our city on the bench. NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 1b56d9b1-587c-4019-a4a5-848f6918d5e7 02:19:28.350 --> 02:19:30.933 But they won't consider applying or running NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 fcacaf9a-a8e5-46b2-a648-1da81d6283a9 02:19:30.933 --> 02:19:33.504 because the salaries are not enough and NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 e94d0c15-a6c0-460b-ab0f-82a7399d5698 02:19:33.504 --> 02:19:37.068 they can't count on regular increases. NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 703e69f4-0fb4-4c9f-8496-a3d5ce611a06 02:19:37.070 --> 02:19:38.830 Even when civil court judges NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 6172ef0f-8d60-4441-834e-55f819fb1dd9 02:19:38.830 --> 02:19:40.590 consider running for Supreme Court, NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 9ad26efc-3c39-4c9a-8e47-39d518591b93 02:19:40.590 --> 02:19:42.782 they have to be sure that they have NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 ac628e06-b515-4746-8639-05adfbb54f70 02:19:42.782 --> 02:19:44.659 the resources to do so because of the NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 84e7c76c-b049-406e-be15-74d87c57711b 02:19:44.659 --> 02:19:46.297 expense of running and the knowledge NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 02cfba0b-9fb5-4649-bbe9-8b071bddc703 02:19:46.297 --> 02:19:47.966 that there will again be a catch NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 e26fba8c-11b1-4908-b3c4-4d0f79b188cf 02:19:47.966 --> 02:19:49.413 up period when our salaries won't NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 68774db7-5626-4b12-ba92-36aa1740acdc 02:19:49.413 --> 02:19:51.156 allow us to keep up with costs. NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 6ac39667-5c20-424b-9791-bb7bcc8504aa 02:19:51.160 --> 02:19:53.533 That means that many judges who would NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 28f58ddb-714b-431c-abce-0e2327058292 02:19:53.533 --> 02:19:55.878 consider running and would be great Supreme NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 5666cc33-db53-40dc-ac0d-b963fddfa42f 02:19:55.878 --> 02:19:58.358 Court justices will not be able to do so. NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 b97f2ce5-2821-4311-af86-c753fd8e04ff 02:19:58.360 --> 02:20:00.088 OK, judge, almost time. NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 6b2e8438-5461-4e10-b067-1865b53d3c41 02:20:00.088 --> 02:20:01.522 OK, I'm almost done. NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 d5baaebf-2402-48c0-b84a-baafb8569eff 02:20:01.522 --> 02:20:03.860 OK, OCA and our new chief judge NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 75c85752-de47-46ab-b0ea-c840a72665a9 02:20:03.931 --> 02:20:05.878 and administrative judges NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 1f9e09bd-5dad-4326-b912-1c924c10249f 02:20:05.878 --> 02:20:07.825 repeatedly publicly announced. NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 b9d31618-c06a-42e9-9353-2304dc2e6277 02:20:07.830 --> 02:20:08.970 Their commitment to equal NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 76d0b82b-898c-41ee-8afe-58aacfe25a39 02:20:08.970 --> 02:20:10.110 justice in the courts. NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 05292e7a-195e-4c40-80f7-10b35b65356d 02:20:10.110 --> 02:20:12.063 To creating a diverse bench so that NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 83c0281e-122e-4ce9-9ce7-17c5d7417fb9 02:20:12.063 --> 02:20:14.202 all litigants can see someone who looks NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 9ccfc1b7-d477-4529-87dd-5d9318a81a72 02:20:14.202 --> 02:20:16.068 like them or knows their experiences. NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 51271d00-8228-4f1f-bcb2-065249891df7 02:20:16.070 --> 02:20:17.630 To be assured of fairness. NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 acddc95e-fbf2-4a36-98ff-1dc0be1fc92f 02:20:17.630 --> 02:20:19.926 To know that the bias and discrimination NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 373bf29b-0d48-44ad-bd68-92deafcc491e 02:20:19.926 --> 02:20:21.734 that has muddied the court's NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 169589ae-24f9-4771-a046-ae6c4015ffd1 02:20:21.734 --> 02:20:23.629 reputation is no longer tolerated. NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 94924eec-2775-4c4e-b1d2-f0b4a53dba9f 02:20:23.630 --> 02:20:25.190 If we are truly committed to NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 e766f2f8-65e4-447f-a39b-95ee5f6889d8 02:20:25.190 --> 02:20:26.590 these values and those goals, NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 37f122d7-9207-4df0-b1f6-ec81fc01b5ae 02:20:26.590 --> 02:20:27.870 as I know we are, NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 13364916-e989-4934-a216-fb9d7133f0c9 02:20:27.870 --> 02:20:30.654 we have to help judges with our many NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 fe03a9a0-3326-42a8-9e49-dd636e4b1f2d 02:20:30.654 --> 02:20:32.280 different backgrounds afford to become NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 ebeb0044-b0bf-4515-8512-21bae228b55d 02:20:32.280 --> 02:20:34.296 judges and do the work we love. NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 8ae2040b-109d-43c6-922e-75e092050daa 02:20:34.300 --> 02:20:37.816 Thank you so much for considering NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 e32125ea-0ab1-4dc4-8dbc-d1543946e918 02:20:37.816 --> 02:20:41.100 my testimony and good luck in this NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 96eabf3c-bcbc-4f34-87a1-722ed883d4c5 02:20:41.100 --> 02:20:42.500 difficult decision. Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 596f1c63-f07d-4b4c-a50f-8d4887a47a68 02:20:42.500 --> 02:20:44.740 Thank you. Thank you for your time. NOTE Confidence: 0.93392783 337231d7-f8ab-4d01-a650-7c4fb36db421 02:20:44.740 --> 02:20:47.500 Our next speaker is is Judge Danielle Chenia. NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 4ab26c5d-475c-4bff-8e93-9288e2123e4a 02:20:51.500 --> 02:20:52.298 Afternoon, judge for NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 338172c2-9ee5-4122-8385-8e2882152eb5 02:20:54.500 --> 02:20:55.418 your time today. NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 037ac700-fcf4-4f6d-9596-d11e14f29ca0 02:20:55.418 --> 02:20:56.948 Now you're president of the NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 e1f98ec7-518d-4297-a74a-fe5fc361ced7 02:20:56.948 --> 02:20:58.620 Housing Court Judges Association. NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 1d03ab76-94f1-40d2-8567-0497d333fd77 02:20:58.620 --> 02:21:00.486 Yes, go up whenever you're ready. NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 747306ad-da04-4e8f-9667-f66c2b1d24b9 02:21:00.490 --> 02:21:02.218 So that'll cut out the first NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 94fe1d84-fe70-452d-b039-f9cc0c438ba1 02:21:02.218 --> 02:21:03.436 three sentences of my. NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 2ca45d6a-565c-4544-8958-0e236c5a19cd 02:21:03.436 --> 02:21:05.166 But good morning to listeners. NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 8fc3fe6d-bf0c-43d3-bba7-ca19ecbe7fe5 02:21:05.170 --> 02:21:06.808 Thank you for hearing us this morning. NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 5ba30d09-9b3c-49e6-aedc-1631ddd27b7e 02:21:06.810 --> 02:21:08.490 My name is Danielle Chenaya. NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 25a61ff8-4355-482c-9252-76e82e877ffb 02:21:08.490 --> 02:21:10.275 I am one of fifty housing court NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 486dcd46-e200-40ea-8d35-ef911fce61a2 02:21:10.275 --> 02:21:11.609 judges serving New York City, NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 89184168-285f-41d7-bac8-a70fd288a20e 02:21:11.610 --> 02:21:13.206 and I have the honor of NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 cb89654b-7802-40e4-801f-187100d3960e 02:21:13.206 --> 02:21:14.004 being their president. NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 ced30440-060c-4081-af38-935d7aa94744 02:21:14.010 --> 02:21:15.641 And I'm here to speak on behalf NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 03fed187-930d-4f21-98f3-b583a56e1a1e 02:21:15.641 --> 02:21:17.898 of us in support of not only a pay NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 9793d04a-63d9-4216-918c-01b875c9bb3e 02:21:17.898 --> 02:21:20.008 raise for all New York State judges, NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 fb295f0f-07b3-457c-bd66-c6acd5bd71e1 02:21:20.010 --> 02:21:22.089 but also for pay parity for U.S. NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 2cf5e0dc-d904-4bce-a285-c65c2d51fdc7 02:21:22.090 --> 02:21:23.320 housing court judges. NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 89b53a54-f972-43e6-b436-cfc293f4584a 02:21:23.320 --> 02:21:25.780 We currently receive only a fraction NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 4abd9d89-6f11-4f5c-8e86-061785a8b465 02:21:25.780 --> 02:21:28.060 of what Civil court judges make NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 a2207b6e-591f-4295-baea-f2a5d6d44d29 02:21:28.060 --> 02:21:29.824 90% and I would like to present NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 99a33d2a-db86-481d-a204-b533e3be1d7f 02:21:29.824 --> 02:21:31.810 to you why I believe that that NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 5d223d99-cbec-4e60-8d4c-4b873f9af1b6 02:21:31.810 --> 02:21:33.455 is not fair or appropriate. NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 ce432341-bfe9-455d-be91-401c15579994 02:21:33.460 --> 02:21:35.660 I have submitted written testimony, NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 c13257a8-d954-4c29-b31e-26a962683a8a 02:21:35.660 --> 02:21:38.260 so I defer to that for any specifics, NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 d6b4db84-fd6d-4816-9ff3-b4fb77582c07 02:21:38.260 --> 02:21:40.771 but I just want to give you a quick NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 81a1cbf8-8c71-4b40-bd17-c1a9888adb4c 02:21:40.771 --> 02:21:43.380 update like quick rundown of how we work. NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 9070da5a-7ba5-4f8e-99da-183115435d0a 02:21:43.380 --> 02:21:46.200 We are a subpart of civil, NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 f54a0c52-327f-41a0-9a15-cf8be38ddcf9 02:21:46.200 --> 02:21:46.604 sorry, NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 81707063-ce56-4241-8c10-9d808e636f3c 02:21:46.604 --> 02:21:49.836 we are a subpart of civil and our NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 d5aeb3c0-2db2-40a9-ae77-3c8e2ef59915 02:21:49.836 --> 02:21:52.612 judges are appointed by a Advisory Council, NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 9b7f75a5-87f4-4664-bbce-6cff42aa1af8 02:21:52.612 --> 02:21:55.174 which is the point which is created NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 b3b1d892-3156-4277-a859-8d3723666505 02:21:55.174 --> 02:21:57.856 by statute and then we are approved by NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 b0844490-17ea-490c-8232-fb181979d6ba 02:21:57.856 --> 02:22:00.432 the administrative judge of New York State. NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 296b7893-fd7f-4c1f-81b7-bca60da837ae 02:22:00.440 --> 02:22:02.463 We serve for five year terms as NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 1c0b0722-8df7-4693-b279-a83035e93ecf 02:22:02.463 --> 02:22:04.555 opposed to 10 year terms as most NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 e34cdae9-dc10-447b-bf5c-1a4221052dd6 02:22:04.555 --> 02:22:06.622 judges and that is part of why NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 3815d23a-876c-4b79-8ed5-8f6b187bff31 02:22:06.622 --> 02:22:08.477 salary is a big issue for us. 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NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 53e5c250-bb81-40c9-9c4c-6e0a26f2f7b8 02:22:19.210 --> 02:22:21.370 And the reasons why I believe NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 7f4eb986-12e5-49f2-ad4b-23d2aef4b96d 02:22:21.370 --> 02:22:23.902 that we deserve equal pay is that NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 bfb643d5-a394-4c34-80ad-24917b6d77e9 02:22:23.902 --> 02:22:25.930 we handle a large volume cases, NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 b49870a0-f427-4318-9142-4b0d20424e0d 02:22:25.930 --> 02:22:28.410 200,000 cases a year approximately NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 be576442-74fb-4225-aae9-747fe06d80ba 02:22:28.410 --> 02:22:31.170 35,000 motions a year approximately. NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 0d1f3ce2-4262-4228-95a6-5b615187dea5 02:22:31.170 --> 02:22:33.886 And that does not even count the NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 6834d21e-8b92-4dcf-a71b-547afbff3679 02:22:33.886 --> 02:22:35.635 emergency applications which we hear NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 47efca14-ee5b-4247-a8d4-56c92e5097c2 02:22:35.635 --> 02:22:38.359 every day and make up the bulk of our work. NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 6c57db08-1a52-4cd0-aab9-245e93e68ffc 02:22:38.360 --> 02:22:40.173 We are also the only judges charged NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 8be91118-5d16-4eaf-b9d0-f19886942082 02:22:40.173 --> 02:22:41.242 with maintaining the housing NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 1384563f-026d-4356-83d4-a56c14a2b10d 02:22:41.242 --> 02:22:42.437 stock in New York City. NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 c7919b6c-800e-4223-ae5d-52b4950a6aac 02:22:42.440 --> 02:22:43.832 That means dealing with NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 4df52b24-c0b0-476c-a6f7-c9166e2c9cdf 02:22:43.832 --> 02:22:44.876 housing code violations, NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 ab5d2b71-dc55-4163-8d2f-1f5ea8d8f959 02:22:44.880 --> 02:22:47.100 building code violations and NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 8917c990-2344-4510-90ba-52555204de0e 02:22:47.100 --> 02:22:49.320 unsafe conditions for tenants. NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 1b908571-6efd-437a-9eec-d3204db1b020 02:22:49.320 --> 02:22:50.016 It also, NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 82adffdf-5153-4351-a254-bd14b18ac2e2 02:22:50.016 --> 02:22:53.035 we are the only people who are trying NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 2bb36c63-4415-4136-872e-73888edd7f35 02:22:53.035 --> 02:22:55.160 to keep rent stabilized landlords NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 9fda9b72-da20-4ca2-9e78-c271f8fdb47c 02:22:55.160 --> 02:22:57.240 maintaining their properties despite NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 dd2498b5-41fe-4a78-932e-679c6541fb2a 02:22:57.240 --> 02:22:58.986 their financial disincentive. NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 5924c0c8-25eb-46c7-a8e6-78cfa69ec834 02:22:58.986 --> 02:23:01.896 As they would tell you, NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 f6274adc-b417-4546-a8b8-67891cb1c720 02:23:01.900 --> 02:23:03.856 housing court is an essential court. NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 b95962f6-0716-4c34-8576-e7a6bb1d6d9d 02:23:03.860 --> 02:23:05.764 So essential in fact that we were NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 fcecca04-6535-45cc-bcbd-bf93ba17485b 02:23:05.764 --> 02:23:07.963 told to come back to work in person NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 6a3d5f49-be68-424b-98c7-5172073b1ac4 02:23:07.963 --> 02:23:09.748 full time on June 20th, 2020. NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 36ca0716-46af-4c20-83c4-eebe6ca614df 02:23:09.748 --> 02:23:12.296 We did that as you would know, NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 6b457118-cdd2-42d5-be46-0d07636aa28c 02:23:12.300 --> 02:23:14.939 many months before any vaccine was available. NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 c027ef0a-73d7-4ba8-b804-a0669a88a431 02:23:14.940 --> 02:23:16.866 And despite the fact that there NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 dcdeba02-75c4-4bc6-a33f-4312a60e9dd5 02:23:16.866 --> 02:23:18.694 was a moratorium on evictions NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 dfcf42c0-ca65-4379-a6dd-b0beffe00b09 02:23:18.694 --> 02:23:21.059 throughout the state and federally, NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 f81aeb84-839c-420b-9238-c53734d5b0e2 02:23:21.060 --> 02:23:22.296 we were asked to come back. NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 62edb5fc-ea77-4c9b-87fc-788fae030bd3 02:23:22.300 --> 02:23:23.884 And that was primarily to deal NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 35a41cfd-333e-4c94-b9d0-5d1c1a4ef5af 02:23:23.884 --> 02:23:25.617 with the fact that there were NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 42eb306e-f2db-4b7d-bc89-eb995af6200a 02:23:25.617 --> 02:23:27.465 people locking other people out of NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 11bff87f-24df-4b24-9626-a293de017e4b 02:23:27.465 --> 02:23:29.555 their homes and there were issues NOTE Confidence: 0.9307265 8488719a-9604-40d1-b63f-140745f7463d 02:23:29.555 --> 02:23:30.620 of building maintenance. NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 97bcccd5-7c7a-4a8c-a4b5-d48a231e5da3 02:23:32.760 --> 02:23:34.080 Every day we streak to, NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 9c1e5ef7-837c-4096-8f1c-d6404f4447b9 02:23:34.080 --> 02:23:36.008 we seek to strike a balance between the NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 c0504f7a-da32-4ba3-bb8f-44398d1be944 02:23:36.008 --> 02:23:37.439 poorest and most vulnerable residents NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 9ed157c6-d268-446d-9873-6e125a2a7506 02:23:37.439 --> 02:23:39.233 of New York City and landlords. NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 df7bb78f-d47b-4f47-adaf-b4a0f4f6ad3c 02:23:39.240 --> 02:23:41.712 And landlords themselves are a highly NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 2be5973e-7c70-469b-9997-787ea7dcd9c3 02:23:41.712 --> 02:23:44.039 diverse group that includes tenants who NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 392e6ffe-3768-44a4-a8a4-7209c1ffeeb9 02:23:44.039 --> 02:23:46.900 have taken in a roommate all the way to NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 e10a96d8-e5e4-4ca3-9f8a-90d62174c56c 02:23:46.900 --> 02:23:49.399 corporate equity fund owners who own many, NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 080321a1-e5c5-41b6-b962-ac05d6579fbc 02:23:49.400 --> 02:23:52.200 many buildings in Manhattan especially. NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 3ad8b743-7163-462d-8bf1-5bd5cf778082 02:23:52.200 --> 02:23:54.895 This balance requires constant application NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 820128e7-16e7-4cb4-b892-4f7acb2666ee 02:23:54.895 --> 02:23:57.590 of compassion and business understanding. NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 c7d5c6f5-e10f-4420-86e3-a8b5e860c6d2 02:23:57.590 --> 02:23:59.462 We strive for fairness and decency NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 5464bb71-76f9-416f-bfb9-dca6f6e88931 02:23:59.462 --> 02:24:01.189 every day amidst the diverse NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 cf884676-99f6-47b4-9b8c-5823a343e9bb 02:24:01.189 --> 02:24:02.869 and unequal user demographic. NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 bc389aa9-11fa-4420-a07a-7d9aa7466109 02:24:02.870 --> 02:24:05.495 Many of the tenants and occupants remain NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 bcf51325-3c35-44b9-94df-0fbfd1e6b1a5 02:24:05.495 --> 02:24:07.300 unrepresented despite the Right to NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 1b366039-7966-48e3-b5da-4e6602e56184 02:24:07.300 --> 02:24:09.463 Council bill passed by the City Council. NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 cd7b889b-a593-492f-998b-6a44499e31a8 02:24:09.470 --> 02:24:12.109 We therefore must always be engaged with NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 7ebfd08b-254f-41be-b590-29d63f337a0c 02:24:12.109 --> 02:24:14.510 and highly knowledgeable of our law. NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 c9b54218-20c4-4134-8795-727d4dc516cb 02:24:14.510 --> 02:24:16.560 Our laws change regularly and NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 0775185c-9dfc-426a-8035-52cfd6a0ab27 02:24:16.560 --> 02:24:17.790 sometimes drastically. NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 8fd7eb24-e2f8-41d6-904e-29d521aa5c81 02:24:17.790 --> 02:24:19.854 Some examples of that of the NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 68791c7b-1354-4a3b-b782-1bbe31187fe4 02:24:19.854 --> 02:24:21.577 2019 passage of the HSTPA, NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 4ae9dc05-5f3d-492d-9474-171431528159 02:24:21.577 --> 02:24:24.006 which revamped much of the rent stabilization NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 e1fb39b1-499a-4cdd-b996-64c84c48b82c 02:24:24.006 --> 02:24:26.190 code and some notice requirements. NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 2bfe5045-fa8e-4d64-b57c-bfeb8ea271ef 02:24:26.190 --> 02:24:29.030 And of course what went on with COVID, NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 2a22febf-f7a4-48b7-94c7-7ed276ab0e68 02:24:29.030 --> 02:24:32.666 where much of our environment changed. NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 4d9b1036-eb4d-47ac-86d8-2e1f770862a2 02:24:32.670 --> 02:24:33.502 And though we're working NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 bcc7fef6-b6f2-4b43-92bd-cc983dcb2dd6 02:24:33.502 --> 02:24:34.750 through a lot of that now, NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 66ebb4ca-679e-4cdc-ab94-4ba75a95ed48 02:24:34.750 --> 02:24:36.856 we did deal with a lot of issues of NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 3fc17bba-8c88-46a3-98aa-3f4b63b4f4c4 02:24:36.856 --> 02:24:39.025 first impression and some of those were NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 cf23a049-68e8-4fbf-8832-d83397860055 02:24:39.030 --> 02:24:40.788 litigated before the US Supreme Court. NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 f9e35eb0-67c2-4f02-8b78-1a85ae4d6c79 02:24:40.790 --> 02:24:42.330 As you may know, NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 a3dcae25-5a77-4694-82d2-4571b6671a40 02:24:42.330 --> 02:24:44.255 we are statutorily obligated to NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 ef4e6c76-b6bd-43b0-8a96-d19816424c6b 02:24:44.255 --> 02:24:45.755 inform unrepresented litigants NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 1611f878-b8ec-4312-a83d-c61ec19b8747 02:24:45.755 --> 02:24:48.788 of their rights and defenses in NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 22a16534-8ef0-4110-aca0-d716a4dff6b1 02:24:48.788 --> 02:24:51.356 every case before agreeing to any NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 1ce9771f-e0a3-4818-88f8-89e7e4e8cb66 02:24:51.360 --> 02:24:52.808 settlement between the parties. NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 dfc6b4b6-976d-422e-8460-db0ff1f5eb9b 02:24:52.808 --> 02:24:54.980 This can be timeconsuming and difficult NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 7994bc3a-1ee7-47ba-92b5-4f9b368e5042 02:24:55.033 --> 02:24:56.985 as many of our residents are in a NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 739a2041-05d1-4428-9d23-397c3f2c6a4a 02:24:56.985 --> 02:24:58.501 much different educational plane than NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 2671437b-d190-4ff2-a4e4-69f4a9a4843b 02:24:58.501 --> 02:25:00.439 the lawyers they are dealing with. NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 e91b5e0f-57ca-4360-a1c8-33ad794d5aaf 02:25:00.440 --> 02:25:03.086 We are singularly charged with trying NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 67abcbda-4147-4c56-8462-3dba975c9f1b 02:25:03.086 --> 02:25:05.841 to maintain balance between a very NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 baac9a79-1a35-48fa-917a-70035bbbdf44 02:25:05.841 --> 02:25:08.326 unequal environments while also remaining NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 33b43d1e-e963-4848-bc07-349bc2199f00 02:25:08.326 --> 02:25:11.458 compassionate about the realness of eviction. NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 bdaebe07-ef84-464a-8603-591872de9a5c 02:25:11.460 --> 02:25:13.218 Our lower salaries are on impediments, NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 b1e8c810-fff0-4044-9cfe-cda8b32a582c 02:25:13.220 --> 02:25:15.188 the ability to continue to attract NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 62585077-fe10-4e0f-9d14-55953cc4dde3 02:25:15.188 --> 02:25:16.948 the type of qualified applicants NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 70876fb0-b6d1-4cc4-a7c4-d026d67611e2 02:25:16.948 --> 02:25:19.258 needed for the housing court bench. NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 1c541627-cc27-4cad-8fd2-c503f40af382 02:25:19.260 --> 02:25:20.320 As you've already heard, NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 503e5e3b-ea2b-4649-aae1-9891dc3c5598 02:25:20.320 --> 02:25:21.910 we are required to remain in NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 cf847ed7-8703-4c5f-ab0b-ccb5fd41134c 02:25:21.960 --> 02:25:22.860 the five boroughs, NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 bcde6239-339f-4903-99da-c3d1fe7fc0b1 02:25:22.860 --> 02:25:25.260 which is fine and totally understandable. NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 0aa52a84-9c9a-4803-aac0-ce16e1dbb1d4 02:25:25.260 --> 02:25:27.652 But between having lower pay and five year NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 ee45af56-3278-4dee-a0ce-f76ea181906c 02:25:27.652 --> 02:25:30.096 terms and having to live inside the city, NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 b329f0e2-1040-48b0-9607-1debc9c88644 02:25:30.100 --> 02:25:33.220 we have a lot of disincentives affecting us. NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 582e7b39-6e5c-421e-9d57-966d264f5b79 02:25:33.220 --> 02:25:36.070 We are hard working judges. NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 efaace99-330d-4fd2-98c3-4a38f7611f9f 02:25:36.070 --> 02:25:38.710 We are on the bench 9:30 to 4:30 every day. NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 a259c36f-85bc-4e33-9bf3-d1170a42cab7 02:25:38.710 --> 02:25:40.270 We have no writing time, NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 ded2370a-0bf9-4bd6-9030-8507e46b44fb 02:25:40.270 --> 02:25:41.586 We work long hours, NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 ee21ba75-6681-4f93-b05b-9e76d82bd1b4 02:25:41.586 --> 02:25:43.231 we work weekends and it NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 37ba0e52-da39-419a-a954-e230188a9c70 02:25:43.231 --> 02:25:44.990 is an emotional court. NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 239f0f55-d338-4546-a8a7-ba5c64662206 02:25:44.990 --> 02:25:46.915 So having these other disincentives NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 b8ba2e80-8adc-4d21-a155-0db1361ff8dd 02:25:46.915 --> 02:25:49.652 does make it much harder for us NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 2b1439ef-e3fa-42dd-be8b-1f467d1adbea 02:25:49.652 --> 02:25:51.148 to get qualified applicants, NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 b20c2de6-ac86-4589-b9cc-d27d2988dfb6 02:25:51.150 --> 02:25:53.630 and we need qualified applicants. NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 9ecde686-a61f-4032-a63c-77e16aaf1aa6 02:25:53.630 --> 02:25:55.970 We need dedicated people who NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 e5acb319-454a-4df5-b732-f0f062e2a061 02:25:55.970 --> 02:25:58.310 have a passion for housing. NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 c027a3f3-d9e5-4560-85b1-c03afc30364d 02:25:58.310 --> 02:26:01.790 So I do think that if we could have patients, NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 f99de978-c186-4081-96fb-417f5e6038f3 02:26:01.790 --> 02:26:04.030 let me wrap it up and let me ask a question, NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 d194ae4c-79a0-4531-9e61-14f3d127b8f5 02:26:04.030 --> 02:26:04.873 are the housing, NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 423c2c47-6649-4a09-a736-6dc0f13bc229 02:26:04.873 --> 02:26:06.559 I'm from Buffalo and housing Court NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 877963c5-b87c-401e-880b-70b2fff591f7 02:26:06.559 --> 02:26:08.535 is part of City Court in Buffalo and NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 39002333-c6c0-4ede-9181-f062f8daa366 02:26:08.535 --> 02:26:10.387 many of the courts upstate it is. NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 edace552-2340-4ea8-b3ca-96f678822624 02:26:10.390 --> 02:26:13.930 So I I never served in housing court though. NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 cdfb1c86-199e-440e-b530-14cc697928ff 02:26:13.930 --> 02:26:15.505 And what I wonder is, NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 8187d634-97f9-4fab-a28f-3ad0972ff2ba 02:26:15.510 --> 02:26:18.569 is right now the housing court judges, NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 f1749c43-f228-4faf-b1cd-7399c425a3ad 02:26:18.570 --> 02:26:20.690 who are New York City housing court judges, NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 b3bc0eab-0f94-442f-aa82-b9fb93200c02 02:26:20.690 --> 02:26:22.328 The 50 that you're part of, NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 d5fdb5b1-da92-4311-ad15-4722257cefe5 02:26:22.330 --> 02:26:23.920 are they the lowest paid judges NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 98e89616-b0f8-4891-adcf-3b88487e0f8f 02:26:23.920 --> 02:26:25.410 in the state court system, NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 869c97ad-3376-49f3-861f-38b281638dfb 02:26:25.410 --> 02:26:26.450 in the City Court system, NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 a9980204-7fb1-4d7b-b538-c96bda42441d 02:26:26.450 --> 02:26:27.690 in the City Court system. NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 b0cfc877-e300-4126-bcbb-7415afec500f 02:26:27.690 --> 02:26:29.346 So don't know what town and NOTE Confidence: 0.9397716 7ec0e663-e76d-4f9d-b44e-362f7ba36b7a 02:26:29.346 --> 02:26:30.450 village court judges make. NOTE Confidence: 0.9326211 adfc7aad-4635-4c7a-96ff-27428936eab4 02:26:30.450 --> 02:26:33.410 Well, you. But they aren't part of OCA. NOTE Confidence: 0.9326211 a3fd1709-5dfb-4c76-8d54-f7b7766390dd 02:26:33.410 --> 02:26:35.478 Many of them are part of OCA. Yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.9326211 ba61be7a-7409-4756-b2ee-9c536abd37c4 02:26:35.478 --> 02:26:37.050 That's what I want to know. Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.9326211 95e4912a-2324-4ab9-a68e-1e228ec4d87f 02:26:40.490 --> 02:26:43.766 Thank you. So your request is NOTE Confidence: 0.9326211 6daa5006-0b5e-436a-a26b-0ae19232d8fa 02:26:43.770 --> 02:26:45.756 you're advocating to to go to NOTE Confidence: 0.9326211 f8b65d52-3f30-46ac-b1d0-18ce8d6b8b07 02:26:45.756 --> 02:26:47.422 the 93% floor, right? Yes. NOTE Confidence: 0.9326211 801f664a-e5f9-4d70-8505-e54b14462d7f 02:26:47.422 --> 02:26:49.420 I mean obviously I'm advocating that NOTE Confidence: 0.9326211 a031cee7-191c-41b9-9790-e9902861ff86 02:26:49.484 --> 02:26:51.514 we all get paid parity with federal, NOTE Confidence: 0.9326211 9fd133bb-1cbe-4673-af01-1f877b62158f 02:26:51.520 --> 02:26:53.476 but if we're not going to, NOTE Confidence: 0.9326211 c7b4c9b6-8231-4492-9635-278f988bda2c 02:26:53.480 --> 02:26:54.440 I would like pay parity. NOTE Confidence: 0.9326211 3c160ab4-9623-4b19-8039-d8bc0112b2bb 02:26:54.440 --> 02:26:55.850 But if there's changes in it NOTE Confidence: 0.9326211 2297af46-e348-4f02-9e96-823206345dda 02:26:55.850 --> 02:26:57.769 you want the floor to be you be NOTE Confidence: 0.9326211 12e87259-f6b1-4a7f-9e46-6eac90189b64 02:26:57.769 --> 02:26:58.919 included in the current floor NOTE Confidence: 0.9326211 90bdf9a8-c58b-4851-8c2d-6d847ad785c3 02:26:58.919 --> 02:27:00.240 for everybody else. Thank NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 d87cc886-62df-4f4d-b09d-12a28f516756 02:27:04.240 --> 02:27:06.640 you. Judge Vincent Dell, NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 70c588a1-8161-4dbd-9ea0-e0cd53a8e47b 02:27:06.640 --> 02:27:09.044 Judas Court of Claims Judges NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 3b313030-90dc-4e27-947a-275173490973 02:27:09.044 --> 02:27:11.696 Association in part, excuse me, NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 5538669c-0a8d-4fa7-a47e-574db81c26c6 02:27:11.696 --> 02:27:13.640 paragraph, BD&E judges. NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 55566f6d-1b57-4a22-86c1-c0ae32074606 02:27:13.640 --> 02:27:17.610 Hello, Judge. Good afternoon. NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 57604bf1-e915-4602-8f1c-29ee9521c478 02:27:17.610 --> 02:27:19.440 I like to give you a little bit of my NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 27a38ef3-1723-4128-ad81-7448d9e8a0bc 02:27:19.496 --> 02:27:21.308 background so you have an opportunity NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 e047920f-69c5-4a3e-be16-6e3b2073998c 02:27:21.308 --> 02:27:22.969 to judge my credibility for you. NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 83432814-6083-4f64-9a49-604a8381bc86 02:27:22.970 --> 02:27:26.090 All right. I'm the first generation of NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 797f7cd6-a9f5-4224-a1c3-49c1d79b6ca9 02:27:26.090 --> 02:27:28.474 my family to graduate high school and NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 15c0a741-a055-4468-abba-ece5103513ff 02:27:28.474 --> 02:27:31.330 this state saw fit to put me on the bench. NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 e2f995b2-cc56-4994-b51e-e3c67720b9f3 02:27:31.330 --> 02:27:34.732 I've been a public servant for my entire 43 NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 82f0e283-ac12-4d34-b0ff-99dcec5c1ab0 02:27:34.732 --> 02:27:37.969 years of practicing law in New York State. NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 b190eeab-85f3-47f1-baa9-2abd55aec264 02:27:37.970 --> 02:27:40.650 Although I graduated 5th my law school class, NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 9ac2819b-6ca1-4404-a2b5-e37182e25d60 02:27:40.650 --> 02:27:42.636 I felt it was imperative upon NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 5c808a5a-741e-470c-b735-b49e508b7c1e 02:27:42.636 --> 02:27:45.236 me to give back to society and NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 404a0c50-c0ff-48e2-847f-1d80e5a5056c 02:27:45.236 --> 02:27:47.878 I became a prosecutor 14 years. NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 232ca594-955f-43f7-ad44-eefa54488f10 02:27:47.878 --> 02:27:50.212 Then I became a defense attorney NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 b2944728-a638-4a2e-94f2-b2c6e5fa6521 02:27:50.212 --> 02:27:53.520 for the indigent and in 2002 I was NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 4883041e-bace-450a-bb4c-8e9868afd69a 02:27:53.520 --> 02:27:56.245 appointed to the Court of Claims and NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 53c200b8-6a4b-4a4a-b373-a753d0939abc 02:27:56.245 --> 02:27:58.380 for the past 17 years my colleagues NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 f3815ab8-975d-4034-a9b5-1b227bbd61af 02:27:58.380 --> 02:28:00.952 have sought fit to have me as the NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 422f79a4-f86e-4ade-a68c-f8d7f425bf7e 02:28:00.952 --> 02:28:02.220 president of their association. NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 639185fd-bd39-4999-b2b9-b62b562276ed 02:28:02.220 --> 02:28:05.671 Now I represent the 56 Court of NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 b95579e7-b809-410c-82ca-e72049e2ce71 02:28:05.671 --> 02:28:08.160 Claims judges that by statute or NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 69892c3a-de99-469e-82bc-cbeae61d5e1d 02:28:08.160 --> 02:28:09.660 acting Supreme Court justices, NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 bcc72b23-ef71-4c62-b756-fad5e7747cc2 02:28:09.660 --> 02:28:12.601 and we handle a multitude of civil and NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 5d1fe33d-43c6-498a-b685-aa125bcb9238 02:28:12.601 --> 02:28:15.106 criminal cases throughout the state. NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 caf36b33-1224-4c03-9afb-62a1c4c7f5fa 02:28:15.110 --> 02:28:16.865 You'll hear from my colleague NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 72770e01-9e32-4b7e-b368-57ce2cb25300 02:28:16.865 --> 02:28:18.269 Frank Milano in Albany, NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 082f6ea6-faec-4111-8054-0c27519a4ce6 02:28:18.270 --> 02:28:20.125 who represents the Division A NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 591222d6-eff7-4bf5-abcb-f35282f38804 02:28:20.125 --> 02:28:21.980 judges that handle the lawsuits NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 4fbd22e3-19b4-4059-93c1-4a90c67b99b0 02:28:22.044 --> 02:28:23.868 against the state of New York. NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 a5bc3b21-0920-4a35-a611-6e873b8bc071 02:28:23.870 --> 02:28:25.550 Excuse me, NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 a4851a20-b921-4c1b-870b-573d05c4616a 02:28:25.550 --> 02:28:28.388 For the past six years I've been NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 545978d0-afb3-4a98-aee2-579812e08926 02:28:28.388 --> 02:28:30.621 the judge in charge of the homicide NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 2444bddb-9b86-4fcb-ac05-6bd5e609b5ac 02:28:30.621 --> 02:28:32.028 part in Kings County. NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 a51df474-ff57-48f7-a07f-dbbdc95078a7 02:28:32.030 --> 02:28:34.260 So I exclusively do homicide NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 04635e81-8d8c-491e-942f-97cacd3fc468 02:28:34.260 --> 02:28:36.870 cases for all these many years. NOTE Confidence: 0.9280956 0c248055-d800-4f59-8e02-8df4be935aa9 02:28:36.870 --> 02:28:38.230 Now I just want to give you a NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 3c91c31e-bd82-48aa-a42c-8f287f8de129 02:28:40.310 --> 02:28:43.550 personal experience. NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 03843098-3f73-46d8-9983-f120f17208de 02:28:43.550 --> 02:28:45.515 Having been a judge since 2002, NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 4c982f39-054b-430f-a6e1-4dbc1a4cf194 02:28:45.515 --> 02:28:48.425 I lived through the 12 year NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 68be3632-e5b2-4410-b0f1-22ecfac7f82f 02:28:48.430 --> 02:28:49.922 hiatus of salary increase. NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 21d6c218-a639-4101-86cc-6142d0d37084 02:28:49.922 --> 02:28:52.655 I am a proud father of a NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 2eb85e81-a997-46e2-9cc2-73901265782e 02:28:52.655 --> 02:28:54.745 graduate of Fordham Law School. NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 1730e48c-d699-4a5c-b01a-34b9099de62e 02:28:54.750 --> 02:28:58.454 When he graduated law school he was NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 80278e03-4168-4a86-9118-f4ee682beda7 02:28:58.454 --> 02:29:01.362 hired pre admission in a white shoes NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 0bed3f44-dbe1-4d16-801a-a40e2987b65c 02:29:01.362 --> 02:29:03.150 firm for $30,000 more than his own. NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 b4b6e69e-675f-4124-9f50-f6684af78c51 02:29:03.150 --> 02:29:08.190 Man made well, very happy for my son, NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 bf252416-b7d3-4bae-a51b-d0ebb7e3b4b5 02:29:08.190 --> 02:29:10.170 but I was very disappointed NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 7448c9f0-c565-492f-93fc-8a891d2fb4a4 02:29:10.170 --> 02:29:12.150 for my colleagues and myself. NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 9127b5bf-3ba3-45a2-866d-ca1d1f389c38 02:29:12.150 --> 02:29:15.700 Now I am not going to bombard you with NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 175c65b0-bdc9-4c00-9950-5427d8310994 02:29:15.700 --> 02:29:18.000 statistics. You've heard them all. NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 4dd1a366-645f-4c5f-9c52-1466d6f3f557 02:29:18.000 --> 02:29:19.962 Other people have resources so they NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 8d5a6989-1c7c-479a-b4c0-21a928381d1e 02:29:19.962 --> 02:29:21.600 can have statisticians do that. NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 789a6e12-ad50-44f8-b0ca-f59afbb2b68a 02:29:21.600 --> 02:29:24.120 I don't. I'm busy trying cases. NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 7364dd36-ab7c-4d4d-a490-c2f6fc02be52 02:29:24.120 --> 02:29:28.075 But I'm here to tell you folks NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 f6815ced-183e-43ae-95a3-ffea7afeffcb 02:29:28.080 --> 02:29:29.488 that whatever decision you NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 6551e8ed-8b59-467f-9571-56c9b0a1b4da 02:29:29.488 --> 02:29:31.600 make has no impact on me. NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 978a7066-74bd-47d3-a4e1-8b53d7865354 02:29:31.600 --> 02:29:33.700 Because next year I reached Judicial NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 a6ef2eeb-9552-4718-b6ce-824ad1c29ecb 02:29:33.700 --> 02:29:35.960 senility and I'll be 70 years old. NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 199d44eb-3da7-4410-9c85-20b16acf9577 02:29:35.960 --> 02:29:39.516 Say So what I am saying here, NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 e30be1d7-0ebd-420f-bd8b-d513083aa44e 02:29:39.520 --> 02:29:42.478 I'm appealing to you for equity. NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 e21b64f4-f6f5-463f-81c0-88dba176c3d4 02:29:42.480 --> 02:29:43.984 That's what I want. NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 f6042f62-39cd-438f-a9e5-fe49d96b3987 02:29:43.984 --> 02:29:44.360 Equity. NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 effb5a9e-a8d6-4440-95fb-51c8e71aac50 02:29:44.360 --> 02:29:47.654 Not for me, but for my colleagues that come NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 42e41397-5192-43d5-a490-16a5d0f881c5 02:29:47.654 --> 02:29:50.074 behind me and for the people of this state. NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 f999fa08-1fc1-464e-b5ef-a131478ccfdc 02:29:50.080 --> 02:29:50.788 All right. NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 98874a3c-70e2-4dce-a974-ef6e6a8f2107 02:29:50.788 --> 02:29:52.558 Without keeping up with the NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 6cd34551-d578-4d3f-b8a5-1269a5aa5403 02:29:52.558 --> 02:29:54.360 cost of living increases. NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 530ad342-ac6e-4320-9907-d59a4eb22a23 02:29:54.360 --> 02:29:55.364 All right. NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 2d878de8-ec13-4cef-bf52-6fe0d8d0378d 02:29:55.364 --> 02:29:58.878 We are consistently in a ketchup mode, NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 8d92e050-9bc8-4cf1-8d62-2afa2e91496a 02:29:58.880 --> 02:30:01.045 never made-up the 12 year NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 9a4d7aad-de23-4d6c-9816-317ba263f0ed 02:30:01.045 --> 02:30:03.560 deficit that I suffered through. NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 978873f0-af56-45b3-8466-b24c8b9979ce 02:30:03.560 --> 02:30:04.316 And listen, NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 b6a676c6-cc36-429c-86af-feb98d045cd2 02:30:04.316 --> 02:30:08.199 I did it because I want to serve my state. NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 68abcbf5-1646-4b8a-b916-a30c399004ec 02:30:08.200 --> 02:30:11.470 That's why I did it, all right. NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 9a1ed5d7-be81-42da-a6fa-a92baad6b06c 02:30:11.470 --> 02:30:14.024 I've been for the last several years and my NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 c0a88654-6036-496c-b822-f59e46686426 02:30:14.024 --> 02:30:16.103 colleagues without a cost of living increase. NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 587b2c13-c0b9-41cd-a7e8-79eab9cffe8b 02:30:16.110 --> 02:30:16.940 So please, NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 7e074954-b90c-44ef-9d54-d4e743f6afc7 02:30:16.940 --> 02:30:19.430 as I will tell the juries, NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 11e1beab-31b4-485c-b78b-27ec0d2f724d 02:30:19.430 --> 02:30:21.350 as my first boss, Mary Moreau, NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 9c9221cc-77ee-4191-81cd-e558b7b3c794 02:30:21.350 --> 02:30:23.348 the DA Bronx County told me, NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 25d8b685-8b2f-407f-82a5-49b39ffa3b5a 02:30:23.350 --> 02:30:26.314 do the right thing, right? NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 dca3cf8a-688e-4a27-b2f9-41fe5e7cd603 02:30:26.314 --> 02:30:29.866 Give the judges a cost of living increase NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 4b75187b-2f20-4716-9be9-fe769ef1db8a 02:30:29.870 --> 02:30:32.903 so we don't have to come here and beg. NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 ce5d9d52-d2bf-47ba-94d1-bb5eb6057d5f 02:30:32.910 --> 02:30:35.510 It's insulting. NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 7b888c4f-5197-477f-bb34-960c03819f40 02:30:35.510 --> 02:30:38.150 I don't mean to destroy your material here. NOTE Confidence: 0.9359155 d6bb787a-d992-477a-aef8-b1fa5b350203 02:30:38.150 --> 02:30:38.430 All right? NOTE Confidence: 0.9338817 b00f5432-e88f-432b-b6c1-d61ac53b6f35 02:30:41.630 --> 02:30:42.950 It up a little to the left there. NOTE Confidence: 0.9338817 36fcdf5d-5065-49f9-85ea-4fa4f63f4cc9 02:30:42.950 --> 02:30:45.068 Charge, so it doesn't bother you. NOTE Confidence: 0.9338817 9664a0ba-2aa6-41a2-8335-186b635b6b83 02:30:45.070 --> 02:30:47.030 How's that? There you go. NOTE Confidence: 0.9338817 a0af1daa-80c3-4468-a23c-00dc69224280 02:30:47.030 --> 02:30:48.350 That's all I have to see. All right, NOTE Confidence: 0.9338817 ab0fd69b-f72d-43d8-b899-6c3cad60191b 02:30:50.910 --> 02:30:51.990 You're bringing the house down. NOTE Confidence: 0.9338817 3ed2988d-00b1-41ac-9dd2-3fd6c11f7aa7 02:30:51.990 --> 02:30:54.027 All right. OK. Thank you very much. NOTE Confidence: 0.9338817 8fe4389d-7ecf-4bc7-97c5-a49dbd5638df 02:30:54.030 --> 02:30:55.386 Just a second. We'll fix that. NOTE Confidence: 0.9338817 b1b697c9-8ce7-40b6-a57f-4ac9259e3b76 02:31:01.550 --> 02:31:03.362 Yeah. No, no. Yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.9338817 695fb55b-1eca-4667-9620-59f4cd52c942 02:31:03.362 --> 02:31:05.627 She's coming over right here. NOTE Confidence: 0.9338817 012c493d-9f53-4b39-8e0e-58f3fc81bfc6 02:31:05.630 --> 02:31:08.828 You guys stay there. Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.9338817 291feb18-77d7-4378-93ad-b32545ec0810 02:31:08.830 --> 02:31:10.070 Have a good day. Thank you, Judge NOTE Confidence: 0.90588933 6e4bc9ff-8f91-46f9-af5f-6f851417fd75 02:31:12.990 --> 02:31:17.827 Okay. Our next speaker is Ellen Sassauer. NOTE Confidence: 0.90588933 f6a32836-079e-4c5d-9025-14dd01d5eca3 02:31:17.830 --> 02:31:20.790 I make sure that's set for Miss Sassau. NOTE Confidence: 0.90588933 9c1362ae-06e6-4199-8d90-42ee697581dd 02:31:20.790 --> 02:31:23.990 Oh, I'm sorry. Elena Sassauer, NOTE Confidence: 0.90588933 f33ff752-96b3-47ea-a0aa-a08e1e768186 02:31:23.990 --> 02:31:25.910 the Center for Judicial Accountability. NOTE Confidence: 0.90588933 fd22930e-6ef3-48ee-b8bd-cad80851773c 02:31:29.590 --> 02:31:30.940 And we have one more speaker NOTE Confidence: 0.90588933 54a16ff5-da5c-4611-bd73-1ccd24d8732d 02:31:30.940 --> 02:31:32.390 after that. Sebastian Duggar. NOTE Confidence: 0.91569626 43ccab61-4dfc-42ca-bbea-7a5266f66c3f 02:31:42.830 --> 02:31:43.910 Sure. Yeah, of course. NOTE Confidence: 0.91569626 0fd3fc75-906c-452b-bb4a-35b77ddf0516 02:31:48.030 --> 02:31:48.989 If you just give it to us, NOTE Confidence: 0.91569626 84480cb4-fa21-46cd-9cf5-6aec3ccc2052 02:31:48.990 --> 02:31:51.215 we'll pass it among ourselves NOTE Confidence: 0.91569626 d1960a19-9c25-459f-a36a-730fa30534f4 02:31:51.215 --> 02:31:52.790 starting with the thatch NOTE Confidence: 0.91569626 44cb89d7-305e-4ff4-af1f-df35f60e7a16 02:31:55.630 --> 02:31:56.910 6-7 of NOTE Confidence: 0.91569626 6eb882a5-a3d2-4d9c-a44c-660a4c98c6ec 02:32:03.670 --> 02:32:05.974 you are going. Why don't you wait till NOTE Confidence: 0.91569626 6c04c640-cccd-45fa-a114-e5e9c874b4f5 02:32:05.974 --> 02:32:08.470 you speak at the mic? Five year jurist. NOTE Confidence: 0.9299929 5dd1d255-c156-40ae-8bd4-cc3fd7541b46 02:32:11.040 --> 02:32:13.637 The starting point is always the statute. NOTE Confidence: 0.9299929 bc981908-033c-48b8-b11e-a41e59f61208 02:32:17.320 --> 02:32:21.380 Since you have power under NOTE Confidence: 0.9299929 c486fac4-f112-4948-8af8-5d63aada16c3 02:32:21.380 --> 02:32:23.720 the legislative law, NOTE Confidence: 0.9299929 5afc319f-dc38-4aaa-b068-ebdd2b813e7a 02:32:23.720 --> 02:32:27.066 would you like to swear me in to NOTE Confidence: 0.9299929 42ab41a6-6665-46a7-a855-3d7c7f1de8bf 02:32:27.066 --> 02:32:29.996 give probative testimony under oath? NOTE Confidence: 0.9299929 e1c7f79b-70af-4d73-8511-3c53ad76c070 02:32:30.000 --> 02:32:34.160 There won't be necessary. Well, NOTE Confidence: 0.9299929 edf8e8ca-407e-4ba3-9272-cfaf17b2ddab 02:32:34.160 --> 02:32:39.236 as I said when I testified at past hearings, NOTE Confidence: 0.9299929 6e5c6c7d-a29b-4b02-bed0-afb01a30cb99 02:32:39.240 --> 02:32:42.440 this hearing has been permeated NOTE Confidence: 0.9299929 f31d8bd9-3072-4436-92e0-8c12d25c23d6 02:32:42.440 --> 02:32:46.320 by fraud by the judges and by NOTE Confidence: 0.9299929 dbb32dfd-1d65-4790-948a-e71132b648b9 02:32:46.320 --> 02:32:48.920 the judicial pay raise advocates. NOTE Confidence: 0.9299929 7fea2e41-2055-47a8-839c-4e4643bed8fe 02:32:48.920 --> 02:32:53.720 And it starts with the statute. NOTE Confidence: 0.9299929 307a5593-5be8-4d43-a8f0-f967734bdb9e 02:32:53.720 --> 02:32:59.240 So I've handed up the statute, NOTE Confidence: 0.9299929 58323e6a-2f79-4cbd-aadc-3479a4af36d3 02:32:59.240 --> 02:33:03.638 which was enacted through the budget NOTE Confidence: 0.9299929 6d8e3c0e-b4f5-40b2-83eb-9ca77e825f87 02:33:03.640 --> 02:33:09.179 unconstitutionally and by fraud, NOTE Confidence: 0.9299929 b1e99aca-43b1-4710-a2f7-2b759ff7d933 02:33:09.180 --> 02:33:12.220 a ground for challenge. NOTE Confidence: 0.9299929 c1b07667-885d-4689-b0a2-f9fc398f6e37 02:33:12.220 --> 02:33:14.905 But let's start with the NOTE Confidence: 0.9299929 a12bf504-566c-4769-8e89-9f8f0c96bd5b 02:33:14.905 --> 02:33:17.053 language of the statute. NOTE Confidence: 0.9299929 051286fd-c153-4110-a525-d2cb369c7f2c 02:33:17.060 --> 02:33:19.454 Aside from the fact that you were NOTE Confidence: 0.9299929 9c5eeb3e-698c-443c-87e6-8b6f434e9d56 02:33:19.460 --> 02:33:23.520 supposed to be established as of June NOTE Confidence: 0.9299929 0eba9792-f4a0-40f4-b1b1-ce5876ab25b3 02:33:23.520 --> 02:33:28.138 1st months ago and you held your NOTE Confidence: 0.9299929 4b835cd3-1881-475d-bd11-0b3caabaff99 02:33:28.140 --> 02:33:31.940 organizational meeting on October 2nd, NOTE Confidence: 0.9299929 ff6830e1-0255-450c-b265-cc35df47fabc 02:33:31.940 --> 02:33:33.100 your charge NOTE Confidence: 0.921954118 a2c09b02-d969-4c56-8283-15391cbb3414 02:33:35.180 --> 02:33:39.740 is adequacy, adequate levels of NOTE Confidence: 0.921954118 d6dc3c1d-d5d1-4c95-854d-cbb5e28c0c80 02:33:39.740 --> 02:33:44.300 compensation and non salary bennets. NOTE Confidence: 0.921954118 db3927ba-09f3-4b57-848b-ab379e6c1a93 02:33:44.300 --> 02:33:47.326 I refer you to Section 2, NOTE Confidence: 0.921954118 6cf314f9-76b5-47c3-b6f2-9a847454ef61 02:33:47.326 --> 02:33:51.322 paragraph one. I refer you to NOTE Confidence: 0.921954118 b5f2e3da-e6d9-4c42-b578-038a8c13649e 02:33:51.322 --> 02:33:57.379 Section 2 paragraph 2A1 and two. NOTE Confidence: 0.92060846 86b07499-b0f2-4c25-86a9-c167770d4683 02:34:01.300 --> 02:34:07.715 Nobody here testified that they're well, NOTE Confidence: 0.92060846 3d233186-9aee-4657-a216-48ed338d3ebe 02:34:07.715 --> 02:34:11.415 inferentially. They implied that NOTE Confidence: 0.92060846 bebf7759-589c-4cd5-8f0f-c3e644e15557 02:34:11.420 --> 02:34:16.236 their salary is not adequate in order NOTE Confidence: 0.92060846 8bd0c4fb-2a46-4dc3-aeb8-d7d6db7f177e 02:34:16.236 --> 02:34:19.576 to make that outrageous inference, NOTE Confidence: 0.92060846 55982c4f-2b66-4284-aa48-eda12ce9ee33 02:34:19.580 --> 02:34:23.858 such as Chief Administrative Judge Zayish, NOTE Confidence: 0.92060846 c51d88e3-f05e-424b-bbbd-dadc1272a726 02:34:23.860 --> 02:34:32.900 who can't afford to buy a new car since 2013, NOTE Confidence: 0.92060846 2eb15881-cf70-4ab2-8586-47a5887d2b97 02:34:32.900 --> 02:34:36.722 and his wife also can't afford OK, NOTE Confidence: 0.92060846 67177f67-2199-4469-b302-78867060763a 02:34:36.722 --> 02:34:38.770 So what are the? NOTE Confidence: 0.92060846 89e0fd20-f1c9-4449-838e-38dd58fdd09a 02:34:38.770 --> 02:34:41.210 None of them identified the NOTE Confidence: 0.92060846 8acfb16e-39f9-4479-b7f9-f16fa76e4bef 02:34:41.210 --> 02:34:43.650 salaries that they've been making, NOTE Confidence: 0.92060846 5f6ffa94-c0ed-4770-bbc5-b746bdfab0a3 02:34:43.650 --> 02:34:46.010 that they've been paid. NOTE Confidence: 0.92060846 53ba12f2-e84e-4738-bdfc-fa8f8e2cf941 02:34:46.010 --> 02:34:50.036 So all these judges are making NOTE Confidence: 0.92060846 099dbd7d-6b40-419b-b6fa-0f7033fcb213 02:34:50.036 --> 02:34:54.370 upwards of 192 hundred 222 hundred NOTE Confidence: 0.92606485 d20592ae-db9a-4019-9088-3ed3b0673ed2 02:34:58.490 --> 02:35:03.302 $30,000 a year. They didn't NOTE Confidence: 0.92606485 6184481f-a158-485a-ad80-9a7f49ee763c 02:35:03.302 --> 02:35:07.412 identify their salary and you NOTE Confidence: 0.92606485 c18ba640-4657-4ae9-a231-a2266e398a3d 02:35:07.412 --> 02:35:09.596 didn't identify their salary NOTE Confidence: 0.9381934 c6e21599-b0ff-45f2-be5e-885174db46d7 02:35:11.640 --> 02:35:16.120 because that salary is Obviously, NOTE Confidence: 0.9381934 3a8e6c0b-ab39-4f0e-8a0a-92565c13a53c 02:35:16.120 --> 02:35:18.268 nobody could look at that salary NOTE Confidence: 0.9381934 6ca3fa01-2a6a-44b4-af70-66cb2f1d2b8f 02:35:18.268 --> 02:35:20.440 and say it's not adequate, NOTE Confidence: 0.9381934 c694ba50-de69-46be-9609-4220b4a5ef56 02:35:20.440 --> 02:35:23.280 even in New York City. NOTE Confidence: 0.9381934 40dfe512-458c-4d95-a35b-ecde1260ac8a 02:35:23.280 --> 02:35:28.160 And of course they don't just get salary, NOTE Confidence: 0.9381934 c39ca5f1-4864-417c-a202-9dee5ab8fbdf 02:35:28.160 --> 02:35:30.998 they get compensation. NOTE Confidence: 0.9381934 c1660f98-44cc-4efe-b360-dee8dd1d9c91 02:35:30.998 --> 02:35:35.188 You are Commission on compensation. NOTE Confidence: 0.9381934 1579824f-c328-4626-b244-6727d823572b 02:35:35.190 --> 02:35:38.870 Compensation is larger than salary, NOTE Confidence: 0.9381934 5ce63d2c-ae81-418e-a1e2-54e00d24ce3d 02:35:38.870 --> 02:35:41.390 right? Pensions, NOTE Confidence: 0.92810464 c7ce9029-d0b8-4546-aa4b-7746275c9f41 02:35:43.950 --> 02:35:49.423 Social Security, healthcare payments, NOTE Confidence: 0.92810464 ef69a950-60d9-46bb-bdb4-ead6ebead6fc 02:35:49.423 --> 02:35:56.081 which brings up the package $20,000 a year, NOTE Confidence: 0.92810464 c8690f3a-83b4-4d24-8995-ac27260d9d75 02:35:56.081 --> 02:35:58.069 30,000. What is it? NOTE Confidence: 0.92810464 a2611e77-51cc-49f1-8cc8-44a297f4b386 02:35:58.070 --> 02:36:01.570 You didn't get any testimony NOTE Confidence: 0.92810464 c4e70350-8d94-48c4-8523-7a2bb3214a28 02:36:01.570 --> 02:36:04.898 about non salary benefits. NOTE Confidence: 0.92810464 8d0b6e4d-b24d-48a1-b83b-b1cdd8ca612a 02:36:04.898 --> 02:36:08.650 And when you put forward your NOTE Confidence: 0.92810464 82e48dc3-982f-4d10-99fc-e26012467c84 02:36:08.650 --> 02:36:11.530 materials in connection with your NOTE Confidence: 0.92810464 4e32d892-d974-40e1-ba59-a41b7535795c 02:36:11.530 --> 02:36:15.920 October 2nd organizational meeting, NOTE Confidence: 0.92810464 8da1ded3-748a-425b-a2eb-0a3a88c3027d 02:36:15.920 --> 02:36:20.090 you only posted as to salary, NOTE Confidence: 0.92810464 3a328e8b-64a7-41a3-ab12-a933b3f96f30 02:36:20.090 --> 02:36:26.570 knowing that that was a fraud. 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NOTE Confidence: 0.9311854 3de32af6-24da-4f60-8119-8d1b5033a51a 02:37:58.710 --> 02:38:01.270 They are a larceny of the public fisc. NOTE Confidence: 0.9311854 246db4b4-6b8b-49cb-b9c6-9b2eb32a41cb 02:38:01.270 --> 02:38:02.630 But let's go further. NOTE Confidence: 0.9253006 d1401343-9c5e-4882-8095-9765098d6c1c 02:38:04.870 --> 02:38:10.390 You allow them to make NOTE Confidence: 0.9253006 8dca388b-ec95-4682-a2ab-042de0f056df 02:38:10.390 --> 02:38:14.190 claims for what they want. NOTE Confidence: 0.9253006 ab29f13d-ba55-4996-b731-b83105ae1f11 02:38:14.190 --> 02:38:16.162 They want higher salaries. NOTE Confidence: 0.9253006 0fe1709a-9e62-43f2-a156-ad417e73ca32 02:38:16.162 --> 02:38:18.627 We all want more money. NOTE Confidence: 0.9253006 e44f07ec-8396-4bdf-bfb3-621ec9146286 02:38:18.630 --> 02:38:22.270 We all want more money. NOTE Confidence: 0.9253006 a768b3ba-a3b4-4c30-8ce5-809c22f9bfcc 02:38:22.270 --> 02:38:24.950 But that's not your charge. 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NOTE Confidence: 0.9253006 c329a5c2-a310-43a4-8481-225362b74908 02:38:50.830 --> 02:38:52.588 But it says our hold on. NOTE Confidence: 0.9253006 b81c3286-3d05-4f6a-a3f9-425684bb274f 02:38:52.590 --> 02:38:55.030 You OK with that microphone? NOTE Confidence: 0.9253006 e6fb50f2-7f1c-4256-97dd-6f769e91c03f 02:38:55.030 --> 02:38:56.118 Yes. I'm sorry. Yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.9253006 364631da-fcf2-4f2d-833a-66f95ac6daa7 02:38:56.118 --> 02:38:57.214 No, you're fine. NOTE Confidence: 0.9253006 b02d5b56-bb42-40ad-bdfe-bbb2a1c40bb2 02:38:57.214 --> 02:39:00.820 So now let's go to the factors that NOTE Confidence: 0.9253006 653af3a7-77cc-45a1-a878-447b60735608 02:39:00.820 --> 02:39:04.609 you are required to take into account. NOTE Confidence: 0.9253006 52e75010-ac43-4bdf-9ebc-3f4cfdfe1796 02:39:04.610 --> 02:39:07.442 The statute requires that you take NOTE Confidence: 0.9253006 c005de9f-08d4-4d8b-9d23-d8ccafc3573d 02:39:07.442 --> 02:39:10.010 into account all appropriate factors, NOTE Confidence: 0.9253006 85ef106b-777c-4b84-b4e4-e3ac86534360 02:39:10.010 --> 02:39:11.148 including and. NOTE Confidence: 0.9253006 0003503b-d58e-4640-bc75-a0f4cbd028a8 02:39:11.148 --> 02:39:13.993 The six enumerated factors are NOTE Confidence: 0.9253006 d2c42a66-c65d-41c5-a5b1-8f0506941e88 02:39:13.993 --> 02:39:16.610 all financial and economic, NOTE Confidence: 0.9253006 1ca9bd7b-3414-4cd2-936e-eca33891c4b2 02:39:16.610 --> 02:39:20.403 but they aren't the exclusive factors. NOTE Confidence: 0.9253006 0e540a78-16e1-4896-b4b7-b615e268e1df 02:39:20.403 --> 02:39:25.500 There are other appropriate factors, right? NOTE Confidence: 0.9253006 2050b540-8802-4346-9679-97c3cb92b460 02:39:25.500 --> 02:39:27.968 The most appropriate factor, NOTE Confidence: 0.9253006 0dcd8871-b939-4b91-9e1f-37e9625091a4 02:39:27.968 --> 02:39:29.819 the threshold factor, NOTE Confidence: 0.9253006 5c1e7d97-4bb2-4e30-8e8f-8b4d02c32125 02:39:29.820 --> 02:39:34.008 is whether judges are doing their job OK. NOTE Confidence: 0.9253006 6006ca82-a33e-4a24-89a8-67f2663846ef 02:39:34.008 --> 02:39:37.776 We have a judiciary that's pervasively, NOTE Confidence: 0.9253006 cd1f7ce5-a0ac-4f61-bd58-26d8c75dbcaf 02:39:37.780 --> 02:39:41.252 systemically corrupt at trial NOTE Confidence: 0.9253006 04f9277b-108a-49b0-b4ed-f7c44958a7bf 02:39:41.252 --> 02:39:43.856 appellate supervisory levels. NOTE Confidence: 0.9253006 6e9281d2-a6a1-40cd-81b8-3a9bb0cc1ba9 02:39:43.860 --> 02:39:46.736 And we are here today because of NOTE Confidence: 0.9253006 25a106ad-efcf-4a34-b44e-8b326dea31b5 02:39:46.736 --> 02:39:48.726 the corruption of the judiciary NOTE Confidence: 0.9253006 2105c39c-cac7-4d83-923a-714ae98e5eb0 02:39:48.726 --> 02:39:51.424 going up to the Court of Appeals NOTE Confidence: 0.9253006 53551176-778e-468e-b36d-8d1fca7ab911 02:39:51.424 --> 02:39:55.236 on which judge say he sat as an NOTE Confidence: 0.9253006 632bcee3-f2d2-42fc-a5c8-9edf2aaadb43 02:39:55.236 --> 02:39:58.486 associate judge and the now Chief NOTE Confidence: 0.9253006 d5029a30-e606-4b5d-92de-155340255ed3 02:39:58.486 --> 02:40:01.188 Judge Rowan sat throwing the case. NOTE Confidence: 0.9219803 6493e1cb-69a7-41e6-aef1-5bf2fe821f91 02:40:03.710 --> 02:40:06.608 And I'm going to close by leaving NOTE Confidence: 0.9219803 0ea38d67-6a28-46cc-a9c6-721cb60d2004 02:40:06.608 --> 02:40:10.190 with you the evidence as to which your NOTE Confidence: 0.9219803 c60cee0c-6fd2-44da-8b3e-0f0bb5f62c01 02:40:10.190 --> 02:40:13.880 duty is to make findings of fact and NOTE Confidence: 0.9219803 a1a7cb04-be43-4134-bbac-d4573f1fe410 02:40:13.880 --> 02:40:19.118 conclusions of law because this case. NOTE Confidence: 0.9219803 aae85322-5651-4a10-b634-878e02fc2829 02:40:19.120 --> 02:40:21.380 Center for Judicial Accountability NOTE Confidence: 0.9219803 7eed6b6d-d17f-413f-ad1f-bc79164e4db9 02:40:21.380 --> 02:40:23.640 against Cuomo et al. NOTE Confidence: 0.9219803 62443698-0521-4e76-85d7-81cf0fda84f7 02:40:23.640 --> 02:40:26.960 And the last et al Is Chief NOTE Confidence: 0.9219803 62852ebf-848b-4f44-a4c2-09f89ab0758f 02:40:26.960 --> 02:40:31.088 Judge Di Fiore challenged the NOTE Confidence: 0.9219803 5d40a8c6-b1bd-446f-911b-93cd6e53279e 02:40:31.088 --> 02:40:34.400 constitutionality of lawfulness NOTE Confidence: 0.9219803 557dbcf3-75e2-4ced-9065-1fd2e21884a4 02:40:34.400 --> 02:40:38.839 of of this of what you are doing, NOTE Confidence: 0.9219803 50c13c56-2260-4abe-93db-57a0ba078196 02:40:38.840 --> 02:40:42.450 of your violations of the prior reports. NOTE Confidence: 0.9219803 af61ac83-9841-4462-b033-4a8b3890bb49 02:40:42.450 --> 02:40:45.120 There needs to be findings of NOTE Confidence: 0.9219803 80a4e8c8-71e2-4869-9103-40a848d80329 02:40:45.120 --> 02:40:48.048 facts and conclusions of law as NOTE Confidence: 0.9219803 cd035b1a-f72c-4c0a-b7ec-f186beaf5367 02:40:48.048 --> 02:40:50.856 to what has been going on. NOTE Confidence: 0.9219803 9b7ce657-5358-4812-9bf4-295ac2c0d038 02:40:50.860 --> 02:40:55.276 That case is Exhibit A as to the corruption NOTE Confidence: 0.9219803 e087ae7d-166c-430a-a55e-be0059ee2f95 02:40:55.276 --> 02:40:58.540 that invest the judiciary at all levels. NOTE Confidence: 0.9219803 15e43a0b-0be7-48aa-a62c-01727607b3f1 02:40:58.540 --> 02:41:02.019 But I am also going to leave with you right NOTE Confidence: 0.9194384 e711d628-dd0e-4768-beee-a6edfec6ca8c 02:41:06.140 --> 02:41:12.180 now. 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NOTE Confidence: 0.92650056 cec9951a-b729-429f-94ca-89b96a7f7eab 02:42:19.610 --> 02:42:23.330 That case now with the Health Division, NOTE Confidence: 0.92650056 82352f5f-c4e6-4e67-ab50-6d5a95989cfc 02:42:23.330 --> 02:42:27.530 Third Department, I'm leaving with you NOTE Confidence: 0.92650056 d835143f-4b26-4aaa-b038-334eff343876 02:42:27.530 --> 02:42:31.382 with the appeal brief so you can see once NOTE Confidence: 0.92650056 381acc52-8c95-4718-b133-69efb648c97c 02:42:31.382 --> 02:42:36.410 again how the judiciary comports itself NOTE Confidence: 0.92650056 2770e913-992c-4865-a72b-c31e493e6e4b 02:42:36.410 --> 02:42:40.237 when the issue is its self-interest in NOTE Confidence: 0.92650056 05cd90db-a3ba-476b-b8c8-cbf2a87c438a 02:42:40.237 --> 02:42:44.933 pay raises and what has been going on. NOTE Confidence: 0.92650056 2d3169b9-5376-421f-adde-ccd80bb4f434 02:42:44.940 --> 02:42:49.860 Your duty and you have subpoena power NOTE Confidence: 0.92650056 4737acc4-d7dc-4601-a81f-b2c1fd0b627e 02:42:49.860 --> 02:42:53.756 and you must make findings of fact and NOTE Confidence: 0.92650056 bc11d3ae-12b7-4533-9d6c-75a9a70e421e 02:42:53.756 --> 02:42:58.100 conclusions of law with respect to this. 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NOTE Confidence: 0.92650056 cfda2ff1-f4b2-46be-8c7c-0060e835608c 02:43:26.910 --> 02:43:31.110 I said the judiciary throws cases NOTE Confidence: 0.92650056 ba649ec4-f9b2-4ce0-a1a9-c9a4c27802d8 02:43:31.110 --> 02:43:33.126 by fraudulent judicial decisions. NOTE Confidence: 0.92650056 c6e2e3f4-462e-45f7-9282-44416a438656 02:43:33.126 --> 02:43:36.716 And I gave the case file evidence NOTE Confidence: 0.92650056 20888162-b61a-419b-8d49-ce81051c2375 02:43:36.716 --> 02:43:40.578 at that time, which was the lawsuit NOTE Confidence: 0.92650056 8df5b10f-d11c-469f-a9fd-215cc3df3e15 02:43:40.578 --> 02:43:43.613 brought in the public interest. NOTE Confidence: 0.92650056 a3600fdd-e2cc-4d4d-bd81-82f5560a76cb 02:43:43.620 --> 02:43:45.548 Have the people, the state of New York NOTE Confidence: 0.92650056 23b0e1c0-5d4d-4822-8010-3e9d97a20313 02:43:45.548 --> 02:43:47.579 against the Commission on Judicial Conduct, NOTE Confidence: 0.92650056 90bbff1e-3de2-4203-8d1e-a1ff562cc8b2 02:43:47.580 --> 02:43:51.072 which was thrown by fraudulent judicial NOTE Confidence: 0.92650056 342de358-6422-4f44-9d9b-f3ea29d3ca51 02:43:51.072 --> 02:43:53.018 decisions, going up to the Court of Appeal. NOTE Confidence: 0.92650056 7dad864d-3198-44f4-a657-e1847d1296ed 02:43:53.020 --> 02:43:56.100 Slow down. You've gone 11 minutes. NOTE Confidence: 0.92650056 4b3334b3-4fac-4e97-8192-206f410f8724 02:43:56.100 --> 02:43:57.620 Everybody's got 10 minutes. NOTE Confidence: 0.92650056 4e5acfda-e8b3-45b8-b5d9-a886cf85de0a 02:43:57.620 --> 02:43:58.940 I'm going to give you no, hold on. NOTE Confidence: 0.92650056 d8f27ff2-0cef-410e-860d-93f007c54b7d 02:43:58.940 --> 02:43:59.260 No, no. NOTE Confidence: 0.92650056 35e51f0e-801e-4344-8111-ca3bea61e213 02:43:59.260 --> 02:44:00.980 I'm going to give you a minute to wrap up. NOTE Confidence: 0.92650056 bc847a67-16f0-4464-a368-375589bbc52c 02:44:00.980 --> 02:44:01.980 Thank you. Yeah, go ahead. NOTE Confidence: 0.92650056 13c93367-ddb1-4813-99a9-bb8b7d38b30d 02:44:01.980 --> 02:44:03.800 Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.92650056 bd3d18d5-a043-47f0-8c63-d450f0dbdadd 02:44:03.800 --> 02:44:06.531 So I will simply identify what NOTE Confidence: 0.92650056 863145fa-9c6e-4090-8573-b096392e27bc 02:44:06.531 --> 02:44:09.117 I am leaving with you with, NOTE Confidence: 0.92650056 f97fe8e8-b228-43fb-821f-8f77beefbbe6 02:44:09.120 --> 02:44:12.970 just as I presented the evidence to NOTE Confidence: 0.92650056 7aad4ddd-21b4-49b4-8eb9-db81bb090d39 02:44:12.970 --> 02:44:15.435 your predecessor commissions I am NOTE Confidence: 0.92650056 e90f1703-03eb-4dcb-8489-1c879ba0f902 02:44:15.435 --> 02:44:17.318 leaving you with and the original. NOTE Confidence: 0.92650056 4115f265-df6a-4ef6-a2fa-16512ffa1867 02:44:17.318 --> 02:44:18.116 This is the NOTE Confidence: 0.9374093 72c6c6fd-62fb-4589-a21a-8940bcb3d0b0 02:44:20.600 --> 02:44:22.616 just leave it there. You don't have NOTE Confidence: 0.9374093 c7dad6a2-e9a2-405c-a574-111e6762210d 02:44:22.616 --> 02:44:25.400 to carry it against Cuomo. The theory, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374093 aa57c4a9-c744-4769-831b-f710df636f77 02:44:28.360 --> 02:44:31.265 the causes of action as to the NOTE Confidence: 0.9374093 94858206-31bb-45d6-98e6-92b21afa6660 02:44:31.265 --> 02:44:32.488 unconstitutionality, the fraud, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374093 710167ce-6a5c-43cb-bddc-625a64476fda 02:44:32.488 --> 02:44:35.720 the unlawfulness of what has gone on here NOTE Confidence: 0.9374093 a7b00342-5687-4840-a211-7a06056977c0 02:44:35.720 --> 02:44:38.798 with respect to these pay commissions. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374093 d1a77fab-a6e7-4795-b3cf-fabe228c0f1f 02:44:38.800 --> 02:44:43.120 But you are replicating, duplicating. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374093 0ac63266-15ab-4f3e-8065-c6c7ef4295b4 02:44:43.120 --> 02:44:44.720 I'm leaving that with you. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374093 6c3e5ead-f117-4e05-b663-0e2998c9f0db 02:44:44.720 --> 02:44:47.696 The original is at the Court NOTE Confidence: 0.9374093 98e9995b-c1a5-4974-be8f-9a55415f30f2 02:44:47.696 --> 02:44:49.680 of Appeals subpoena it. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374093 3c6bb001-3a75-422a-b44f-bd0ac8772565 02:44:49.680 --> 02:44:52.356 I'm leaving you with the appellate NOTE Confidence: 0.9374093 ab7d53a5-e541-41ae-947b-522e610e16de 02:44:52.360 --> 02:44:56.800 record in the lawsuit against Jacob NOTE Confidence: 0.9374093 b6641d44-2ceb-430b-a376-c531f08a1c7e 02:44:56.800 --> 02:45:01.000 at all involving complaints filed with NOTE Confidence: 0.9374093 e63724dc-fead-40a8-a979-a0fdb8ee444c 02:45:01.000 --> 02:45:03.480 Jacob involving these commissions, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374093 5bd7c022-9c33-4f55-9698-72e2f2f5478e 02:45:03.480 --> 02:45:06.618 the scheme, the corruption in the NOTE Confidence: 0.9374093 d7c116b4-f6d5-49d3-a601-1241c09d3341 02:45:06.618 --> 02:45:08.710 involving the Attorney General, NOTE Confidence: 0.9374093 2bf698a1-ae26-4609-abe9-6d9903e636ac 02:45:08.710 --> 02:45:11.046 corrupting the judicial process. NOTE Confidence: 0.9374093 8443e43c-a5a3-46f3-9b91-ab5f39ef84b2 02:45:11.046 --> 02:45:11.630 Lastly, NOTE Confidence: 0.923634 2c77ee96-4bd5-48ce-adc3-134532291a31 02:45:13.910 --> 02:45:13.990 I NOTE Confidence: 0.923634 d7526349-4d35-47e8-85ff-34a1ff848877 02:45:18.950 --> 02:45:22.442 don't want you to believe that the NOTE Confidence: 0.923634 372178fe-be2c-4f68-901b-25865cbeb427 02:45:22.442 --> 02:45:24.706 corruption infesting the judiciary NOTE Confidence: 0.923634 1ba629ec-e684-4b69-8cb0-1f65e9f8badc 02:45:24.710 --> 02:45:29.306 is only in cases of magnitude, NOTE Confidence: 0.923634 cbf3b8b4-68f4-4409-b7fb-8988b12a27ec 02:45:29.310 --> 02:45:32.870 such as the cases that I've here presented. NOTE Confidence: 0.923634 51630d68-e628-4dc2-8105-996c92a1a18e 02:45:35.230 --> 02:45:36.030 I have NOTE Confidence: 0.923634 b8ed6cc1-128e-49d4-8156-3e1be6470804 02:45:38.150 --> 02:45:38.190 a NOTE Confidence: 0.92512415 a15e4d07-6bb4-4424-8779-b9b5eadc330a 02:45:40.790 --> 02:45:46.068 a independent report that I wrote about NOTE Confidence: 0.92512415 53306eb1-0f08-47b5-9735-f80822b845e2 02:45:46.068 --> 02:45:52.460 a family court case out of Monroe County. NOTE Confidence: 0.92512415 99795001-b9f9-4154-aeea-98aaea178105 02:45:52.460 --> 02:45:54.848 A mother called me in distress NOTE Confidence: 0.92512415 98b9d79e-8621-4cad-9ec7-d0a451f16be2 02:45:54.848 --> 02:45:57.231 because her her child had been NOTE Confidence: 0.92512415 b5186bc7-cc55-4714-8844-40147e51e209 02:45:57.231 --> 02:46:00.904 taken away from her and she begged NOTE Confidence: 0.92512415 11c683cb-c907-40ea-8c2d-68355d47069a 02:46:00.904 --> 02:46:06.220 me to assist her without charge. NOTE Confidence: 0.92512415 bac41eb6-3c85-4e7b-8605-bb1c627099ce 02:46:06.220 --> 02:46:12.200 I I examined the record and I NOTE Confidence: 0.92512415 9a87985a-60d7-4e7e-a63f-f521480f2dbb 02:46:12.200 --> 02:46:16.238 wrote a report that was first. NOTE Confidence: 0.92512415 20d3f6a5-3c33-4c27-8e5b-f93fae177d32 02:46:16.240 --> 02:46:19.240 It's a sealed file. NOTE Confidence: 0.92512415 cb24a9dc-9d79-4c74-a811-13c42e458cd6 02:46:19.240 --> 02:46:23.056 I think you should take a look at NOTE Confidence: 0.92512415 069c18bd-3c17-45ae-8441-72171f231009 02:46:23.056 --> 02:46:26.530 what goes on and you should know NOTE Confidence: 0.92512415 80223ef7-9884-4690-997a-59b45bb4799a 02:46:26.530 --> 02:46:30.439 this is only the first piece of it. NOTE Confidence: 0.92512415 95b4f828-fce8-4c0f-91b2-a90cbdd2d2fb 02:46:30.439 --> 02:46:33.704 But the corruption involving this NOTE Confidence: 0.92512415 51f67ed0-dbed-48dc-8e30-24e60d7de8e7 02:46:33.704 --> 02:46:36.360 report at the family court level, NOTE Confidence: 0.92512415 611960a2-23a3-4f3d-9ec3-84244a9952b3 02:46:36.360 --> 02:46:37.920 active television 4th department NOTE Confidence: 0.92512415 3439e70a-fb87-4c22-a6cf-3d649e9e4e73 02:46:37.920 --> 02:46:39.480 from which you come. NOTE Confidence: 0.93067676 fd877732-948a-4be4-83eb-e3e12494fabe 02:46:45.120 --> 02:46:46.800 You need to take testimony. NOTE Confidence: 0.93067676 32ef27c6-8264-44ec-b0fe-382f70b38302 02:46:46.800 --> 02:46:48.720 You have subpoena power. NOTE Confidence: 0.93067676 d2764349-f12a-4c98-8edb-1f9039992c4f 02:46:48.720 --> 02:46:52.904 You need to you need to examine the NOTE Confidence: 0.93067676 125b90c0-b806-43aa-bc14-350f389b9907 02:46:52.904 --> 02:46:55.170 corruption in the judiciary misses NOTE Confidence: 0.93067676 6f99e378-40cb-4a1e-8080-b574cef8bb0b 02:46:55.170 --> 02:46:57.068 or I'm going to ask you that we're NOTE Confidence: 0.93067676 7db0e002-812e-4ab9-b977-4b890842ee90 02:46:57.068 --> 02:46:58.644 going to wrap it up now. Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.93067676 5c1479d3-0138-4d0b-9a92-2c8aeebb10cd 02:46:58.644 --> 02:47:00.354 Thank you for your presentation, NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 2b69a021-2be2-4ef2-b2fb-617244606c5a 02:47:03.730 --> 02:47:05.101 Center for Judicial NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 322eb031-87c2-4699-b619-e063f1012875 02:47:05.101 --> 02:47:06.929 Accountability. The website is NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 69fa138b-ceef-4511-a44d-672dc119e33d 02:47:10.170 --> 02:47:10.945 www.judgewatch.org. NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 92e93eb9-d274-44fc-b61d-0c4d374de560 02:47:10.945 --> 02:47:14.045 The documents substantiating my NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 bc944ec3-b107-4917-bec7-4df5e2d07488 02:47:14.045 --> 02:47:17.145 presentation are accessible from NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 be0b1927-dff1-4f7f-9e83-bd28a339ba04 02:47:17.145 --> 02:47:21.089 the centerlink entitled New York, NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 d4ff1ac9-65c0-4475-9529-f47d5d834e32 02:47:23.130 --> 02:47:24.970 NY Sports of Law, Commissions, NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 e8b8fb8d-103d-4aa3-a28f-02c94822cb53 02:47:24.970 --> 02:47:25.943 Unconstitutionality, NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 4848252b-ee39-4890-85fb-217ea56d5efe 02:47:25.943 --> 02:47:31.754 and Fraud in plain Sight. Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 f3753242-f9cc-4248-9997-b7787171542c 02:47:31.754 --> 02:47:34.586 Our next speaker is Sebastian Dogart, NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 02aab5cb-530b-406a-ba33-f456d0764ee7 02:47:34.590 --> 02:47:36.610 Executive director of the NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 50ee81cd-1a94-45b5-9640-a124a7cdc21e 02:47:36.610 --> 02:47:38.630 Family's Civil Liberties Union. NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 34e1908a-5653-47cf-b0b1-0871adbef639 02:47:38.630 --> 02:47:39.438 Good afternoon. NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 603e7f17-8fe9-404f-af10-9b38c8041826 02:47:39.438 --> 02:47:43.374 I feel a little bit like a cockroach on a NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 5fbd53e9-8a20-4712-a294-850d79a66417 02:47:43.374 --> 02:47:46.306 wedding cake here because I think I'm the NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 332d33ed-5594-4f59-ac64-88c9dd353039 02:47:46.306 --> 02:47:48.466 only one of the only non attorneys here. NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 ac5aac3c-5c2e-42db-82ac-1ae529e8c76f 02:47:48.470 --> 02:47:49.750 I'm not an attorney. NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 1e3e9f7f-cfef-4555-89ac-e8a1f30cb3bf 02:47:49.750 --> 02:47:52.713 I am a journalist and a filmmaker and NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 2f092cb3-b3b5-47f1-8659-6cced3476647 02:47:52.713 --> 02:47:55.599 the executive director of the Family NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 fa1d792c-56f4-49e9-b32f-902ab5c52f7e 02:47:55.599 --> 02:47:58.238 Civil Liberties Union and independent, NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 6610a957-e9c4-46f7-a6f6-4c1e81d2b8b5 02:47:58.240 --> 02:48:00.068 nonpartisan, nonprofit group assisting NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 9697478f-ff82-4544-ac4e-0140b0ce8c56 02:48:00.068 --> 02:48:02.810 families across the US who have NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 71212208-b06f-4f7e-9e97-03eb8f1d10ec 02:48:02.882 --> 02:48:05.036 been damaged by the court system. NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 7332f579-8c3d-4337-ad90-254410c3c923 02:48:05.040 --> 02:48:08.115 The application for pay raises for NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 dc95a3af-4e7d-44f5-904c-d22f45814798 02:48:08.115 --> 02:48:10.955 judges should just be should not just be, NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 3d6f8cc8-34e7-41e9-8e22-ae7a8aa34b83 02:48:10.960 --> 02:48:11.407 denied. NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 c83db929-9bbd-45be-9d5d-213fa2fe4dd9 02:48:11.407 --> 02:48:13.642 There should be a complete NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 af8e77e2-dd04-421f-8dd5-eb6021b4e116 02:48:13.642 --> 02:48:16.170 suspension on any payments to judges NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 1fccfd39-9960-4857-a84a-8060073d4472 02:48:16.170 --> 02:48:18.360 against whom there are legitimate NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 c082bb66-5720-460b-81a7-5f308d29d954 02:48:18.360 --> 02:48:20.112 complaints and until effective NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 d57dcad8-cee7-4cd8-a45f-9c1114100728 02:48:20.112 --> 02:48:22.050 judicial oversight is introduced. NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 e712319e-bf6c-4b8d-8dff-9eead1e2dbc2 02:48:22.050 --> 02:48:23.610 Now, over the last decade, NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 88609588-13e5-4cb1-8712-f76fee672972 02:48:23.610 --> 02:48:26.328 the FCLU has presented ample evidence, NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 6364ce03-d27e-47bc-8242-c3795d1ae41a 02:48:26.330 --> 02:48:28.570 at least 15 separate reports, NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 a0a1e40b-dcea-464f-b2f6-0fa7b01855a6 02:48:28.570 --> 02:48:31.549 to see why the New York Unified Court System NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 079d9cda-1c62-4ddf-b00e-0ce29b240cef 02:48:31.549 --> 02:48:34.485 is causing untold harm to our families. NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 7cb1395c-1f00-4970-aa5c-786d808149e6 02:48:34.490 --> 02:48:36.245 It has done so to the New York Assembly, NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 13c97e59-8b34-4634-8b37-cfade99614af 02:48:36.250 --> 02:48:38.170 to the Commission on Judicial Conduct, NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 01f4a5a1-ccad-4472-bd96-a427ddc3d78c 02:48:38.170 --> 02:48:39.234 to the Chief Judge, NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 3719bbc4-0ad1-42de-bb0f-07a8c1168b7e 02:48:39.234 --> 02:48:40.564 to the Attorney Grievance Committee, NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 8264e484-2dee-4355-a5cc-d35d68d0feea 02:48:40.570 --> 02:48:43.130 to the OCA, and to the Inspector General. NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 9355b87e-9f97-497a-9567-e613bafda92f 02:48:43.130 --> 02:48:46.110 And nothing has been done. NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 b12fe273-9a5e-41c1-a0d7-54ec10ffd43e 02:48:46.110 --> 02:48:48.238 Now, all of you but one of the NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 44978653-3aa9-4fe9-9a09-66a173f1ceb0 02:48:48.238 --> 02:48:49.390 commissioners are attorneys. NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 ce9f8a38-6682-4ce3-8d08-517cccd55c15 02:48:49.390 --> 02:48:51.670 So judges, right? NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 ed93bc4b-ad94-4691-be6f-ecbf7a437fae 02:48:51.670 --> 02:48:54.670 And I do question whether this is sorry. NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 bf9b5196-b211-448f-9d92-6a7d0a58ba95 02:48:54.670 --> 02:48:56.186 So judges or attorneys, NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 61539b27-b01d-4e3c-8cdd-0afd22c4d1f6 02:48:56.186 --> 02:48:58.460 I do question whether this is NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 97842fea-2af1-4784-befe-02631ebf28d6 02:48:58.535 --> 02:49:01.215 a reassuring indicator of your NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 d06c77d1-f5a7-49db-88cb-75ef7114cf67 02:49:01.215 --> 02:49:02.823 impartiality or independence. NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 fed32253-0275-413c-b752-9f8dced321e7 02:49:02.830 --> 02:49:05.728 Does the makeup of this Commission really NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 7db96ac1-0ee2-4015-b5ca-ac1399cc9347 02:49:05.728 --> 02:49:07.790 represent the population of New York? NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 a42ee8d5-80fb-4454-a250-c958e02a40ff 02:49:07.790 --> 02:49:09.386 Why are there no social workers, NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 d4611b36-a436-4aa2-be77-ba5e44089b54 02:49:09.390 --> 02:49:10.390 no psychologists, NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 7985d8f7-75f3-4deb-b686-738df5e3437a 02:49:10.390 --> 02:49:13.162 no journalists on this this Commission? NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 46cd743f-a82d-4c54-ada8-e240aff8ad8d 02:49:13.162 --> 02:49:16.154 What do you think are the optics to NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 30f75a4a-13de-4fca-affe-7564cdf3a7ef 02:49:16.154 --> 02:49:18.426 the public that six of you are zealous NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 2d25c50e-a94e-49c8-ba30-a138727f44d5 02:49:18.426 --> 02:49:20.110 members of the Bar Association, NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 810f8a94-0f3f-43b7-8495-4a25ce39dd7c 02:49:20.110 --> 02:49:22.270 where we happy to be standing right now? NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 18b2102c-5458-4d9b-8d34-7eb49bba7a8b 02:49:22.270 --> 02:49:25.054 It's a beautiful building, NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 1e9acbfe-5a7c-4148-bf5f-d287b04f7dc5 02:49:25.054 --> 02:49:28.186 but Bar Association is a major engine NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 d6629813-718d-46d2-8545-77f0ead9c283 02:49:28.186 --> 02:49:30.390 of the whole judiciary racket, NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 65f2e068-e83c-4d9a-a1d5-0227e2ddda77 02:49:30.390 --> 02:49:32.280 and you were charged with deciding NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 6f6dac1b-4a84-4a06-9baf-cf2a17b97c80 02:49:32.280 --> 02:49:33.925 whether your fellow Bar colleagues NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 4ed0d090-2e4a-4a9f-921b-8ace30fe1086 02:49:33.925 --> 02:49:35.229 should get a raise. NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 05c10b40-227d-427e-a273-c01a8f3ae4c7 02:49:35.230 --> 02:49:38.296 Do you have anything that holding the NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 14503dd4-aff8-4aed-9cf5-f42ae38192de 02:49:38.296 --> 02:49:41.318 Commission here helps your credibility here? NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 9dd9db4a-83d2-4a6a-b65f-d2127be43363 02:49:41.320 --> 02:49:43.354 So I ask you at least to put aside NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 728f77bf-b095-4a5c-84e8-d3da5b4b78c1 02:49:43.354 --> 02:49:45.079 your natural allegiance to your NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 e6c87f00-6f2d-4339-aff8-332beb6b7d31 02:49:45.079 --> 02:49:48.040 fellow bar buddies and to oppose NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 f5bba680-0b7b-4cf8-800c-c4d420da9bac 02:49:48.040 --> 02:49:50.840 these obscene funding requests and NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 a0f4491d-4faf-4ca5-8900-641f85b1edc1 02:49:50.840 --> 02:49:54.639 to help establish genuine oversight. NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 666d36c6-4569-4996-8ecf-d76ba0058dc8 02:49:54.640 --> 02:49:54.900 Now, NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 8983b8d7-5de2-4b9f-b213-e209da7f9013 02:49:54.900 --> 02:49:56.460 in the report that we submitted NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 bb286041-c19a-4d33-a061-3fa771565b9b 02:49:56.460 --> 02:49:57.240 to you yesterday, NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 bfef6b0f-293c-49ae-9ab6-9c7a4b6ad547 02:49:57.240 --> 02:49:59.478 we warned you of specific judges, NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 a4affae4-3b24-4c6a-b138-92a5061d0de3 02:49:59.480 --> 02:50:01.565 agencies and public officials who NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 c0f64acf-6cd3-4f5d-82e8-8b1f410fb489 02:50:01.565 --> 02:50:04.000 are simply not doing their job. NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 a3b2a8ee-bc63-48a1-9d92-c617cd00a88a 02:50:04.000 --> 02:50:06.760 Worse, they are perpetrating fraud, NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 e4e563e7-b10c-411e-9426-17137f09928f 02:50:06.760 --> 02:50:08.998 waste and abuse on the public. NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 6f58c243-040e-467d-94b3-de9272282eee 02:50:09.000 --> 02:50:11.247 And you must please use the powers NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 48605964-7f35-4e65-9cdc-8d93d3a88bea 02:50:11.247 --> 02:50:13.837 of the purse string that you have NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 66c6a0b7-f31d-4ed4-a0d8-e51752b57eee 02:50:13.837 --> 02:50:15.782 to protect millions of families NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 d9dc8e37-068b-4cad-8d17-4cfc5bf832d2 02:50:15.782 --> 02:50:17.679 from our broken judiciary. NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 697fd163-57a0-4450-a424-605e33241dfc 02:50:17.680 --> 02:50:18.156 Now, NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 264c8112-e795-4c41-b066-1d5df2869740 02:50:18.156 --> 02:50:21.012 opinion polls show that public confidence NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 54c73f76-79c1-4624-8da6-b79a93f1c9ee 02:50:21.012 --> 02:50:23.957 in the judiciary is an all time low. NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 69b90be6-0c3e-4bfe-b677-9ea28e82be7b 02:50:23.960 --> 02:50:25.800 People are not just disappointed. NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 388c0588-4c81-4873-98a3-024568f4b904 02:50:25.800 --> 02:50:27.277 You heard this from Elena as well. NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 bef5e80b-92e6-40ef-b009-d22661bb4120 02:50:27.280 --> 02:50:28.840 They are mad as hell. NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 5971f778-2c80-432d-93c2-4a67946ba46d 02:50:28.840 --> 02:50:29.880 For the last eight years, NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 55386f92-5cc0-44e7-bddd-335a6181af37 02:50:29.880 --> 02:50:31.655 the Center for Public Integrity NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 4f199321-cdf2-4ff1-b6a7-a36652272e3b 02:50:31.655 --> 02:50:34.501 has given the state of New York's NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 cef09bc7-cd8d-4608-b77e-8851e8cd32be 02:50:34.501 --> 02:50:36.501 judicial accountability and ethics NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 32db50ad-e8d9-4d3e-bd20-d97c18e0e144 02:50:36.501 --> 02:50:38.843 enforcement agencies a failing grade NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 d8112ef7-c239-4b4c-9408-c471a5da868d 02:50:38.843 --> 02:50:42.256 of an F New York ranked 48 out of 50 NOTE Confidence: 0.92511034 35fb7033-8aed-43d6-a67c-89bae56d359e 02:50:42.256 --> 02:50:44.920 states in terms of judicial accountability. NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 0563d966-9b5c-4d8e-8062-bcee3fc089a8 02:50:44.920 --> 02:50:46.984 Why? Well, the organization which is NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 15f1303c-929c-4712-83ba-52979d21809a 02:50:46.984 --> 02:50:49.509 supposed to oversee the New York judiciary NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 d3516543-2117-46f3-988c-9ece770484df 02:50:49.509 --> 02:50:51.687 is the Commission on Judicial Conduct, NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 8aa55e2e-d5b5-4580-b0c0-1873438b1393 02:50:51.690 --> 02:50:55.050 the CJC, which is a sham. NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 ed388999-c6d6-462a-9cd9-54e7cc2b387f 02:50:55.050 --> 02:50:57.190 Every facially meritorious complaint NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 0b8b50fd-cb09-4e2a-ba77-1d895f9b2e89 02:50:57.190 --> 02:50:59.865 and report presented by private NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 df6b1a67-67c3-44de-9368-9fa45b640174 02:50:59.865 --> 02:51:02.361 citizens is either completely ignored NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 c9fee66a-70cd-42bc-9d53-c56858e080e4 02:51:02.361 --> 02:51:05.193 or dismissed with a boilerplate letter. NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 51c45912-6fd4-4ec7-9724-453beffe69ef 02:51:05.200 --> 02:51:07.280 It's corrupt leader Robert Tembekchin, NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 62e8cac1-6aaf-414d-a52e-ee533a9e07d3 02:51:07.280 --> 02:51:09.188 who has ruled the CJC unelected NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 09b7e7fb-dad7-41ee-8231-bbfd32ffa755 02:51:09.188 --> 02:51:11.355 for 19 years and had unemployment NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 9b7adfe2-948c-4397-903d-16f7f177ea20 02:51:11.355 --> 02:51:13.839 there for more than four decades. NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 8bff19f6-82a7-418e-b312-cf67d0cd4a2f 02:51:13.840 --> 02:51:15.048 That's longer than Vladimir NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 8048dab4-4d8f-48f3-b2fb-e951d67cb550 02:51:15.048 --> 02:51:16.558 Putin has been in power. NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 52ae555d-3894-4163-82a5-9ab9ca3c5564 02:51:16.560 --> 02:51:17.404 Robert Tembekchin, NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 c6027eb0-75bd-4fc6-a89a-4b78276289f5 02:51:17.404 --> 02:51:19.936 who has been rewarded with ever NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 4b0d646d-4484-48b7-bf8d-f68dd6155504 02:51:19.936 --> 02:51:21.719 rising wages and benefits. NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 1e1c9719-d3f5-4542-856a-58bf719bfa03 02:51:21.720 --> 02:51:24.597 He needs to be removed and the NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 020bd603-cbbe-450e-ac62-bd52b3dd6053 02:51:24.600 --> 02:51:28.135 CJC needs to be replaced with a NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 e0945555-900a-41dc-8ffd-e2fcbcff5d96 02:51:28.135 --> 02:51:30.140 genuinely independent oversight body. NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 cd6fd740-f824-4131-8862-96db2810239d 02:51:30.140 --> 02:51:32.252 Without accountability or NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 353b2398-4fbe-496b-bbce-ef7da994e746 02:51:32.252 --> 02:51:33.660 recommending accountability, NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 3d911af2-952c-42d8-ad8c-937a05966183 02:51:33.660 --> 02:51:36.156 you will be paving the ways NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 48b0ed84-b923-4c91-9b67-23774e11ee58 02:51:36.156 --> 02:51:38.820 way for more human tragedies. NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 b97115b9-e50a-476c-bcfe-8a406e392041 02:51:38.820 --> 02:51:40.962 Five years ago we warned the NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 0d8a293f-cf55-4670-8076-60c044235bf5 02:51:40.962 --> 02:51:43.059 CJC and Chief Judge de Fury, NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 74dd32b3-f7c2-4270-aad8-5552d8d9d866 02:51:43.060 --> 02:51:44.945 whose corruption is now mercifully NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 7943ab86-6df1-4051-af66-170d9f4835cf 02:51:44.945 --> 02:51:47.498 come to the fore at the conduct NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 28d86f54-d148-4afd-b598-62ef351e4b16 02:51:47.498 --> 02:51:49.574 of a rogue Suffolk County judge. NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 91955560-e7fe-4320-87a9-61491fd4f4a1 02:51:49.580 --> 02:51:52.700 She's no longer the Chief Judge NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 bafb80c3-ed4c-4ed5-8f7c-cf284525868b 02:51:52.700 --> 02:51:53.482 Hope Zimmerman. NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 a9c20c08-53e0-429d-a46f-dc342d5e5c76 02:51:53.482 --> 02:51:55.437 It was Zimmerman who willfully NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 7ecb0970-43fe-4dc9-9858-a87513e3813e 02:51:55.437 --> 02:51:57.633 ignored the pleas of a mother NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 7c42073f-b751-455c-a832-354ce619eb23 02:51:57.633 --> 02:51:59.233 that her seven-year old child, NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 67a4eac3-feb8-4628-a6c9-bc34ac763e4f 02:51:59.240 --> 02:52:02.156 Thomas Valva, was in mortal danger. NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 0c107e4a-c0d9-4081-adab-0863a50e3db9 02:52:02.160 --> 02:52:03.680 Siding with the father who NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 905b587b-e7c8-4b60-b410-770ea7210def 02:52:03.680 --> 02:52:05.520 happened to be an NYPD cop, NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 b72357ca-6f14-40cd-8fa3-61467470b8fb 02:52:05.520 --> 02:52:07.000 Zimmerman ignored evidence from NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 89d2ed6a-69b4-4c92-bdf0-f5c5534a3026 02:52:07.000 --> 02:52:08.850 the child's school and dismissed NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 1daad62b-5f04-468b-9923-8a3dc44d597f 02:52:08.850 --> 02:52:10.320 the mother's petitions. NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 077f9239-adab-4072-a593-3aeacfb4514d 02:52:10.320 --> 02:52:12.030 The result was that Tommy Valva NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 089e2899-08e7-4723-9d70-eec4ae50022a 02:52:12.030 --> 02:52:14.164 was put in a freezing garage NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 b708f292-bbb9-4161-a7a3-5fd8545b70b7 02:52:14.164 --> 02:52:16.479 overnight and died of hypothermia. NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 fc2b142a-e7ce-4c0b-88ba-73e99c7ee554 02:52:16.480 --> 02:52:19.330 If Tim Becchion had recommended Judge NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 5ed0fef3-a023-4653-afb8-dd6c576e5228 02:52:19.330 --> 02:52:20.755 Zimmerman's suspension earlier, NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 74ac4e60-950c-45d6-8e57-600c74d32aba 02:52:20.760 --> 02:52:22.792 Tommy Valva Valva might, NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 8d622e04-d345-4d6c-b8b1-f6dd8df497f9 02:52:22.792 --> 02:52:25.840 might just still be alive today. NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 120e2e2c-2adb-479e-890e-6942e2f993b1 02:52:25.840 --> 02:52:29.920 We have also repeatedly warned that NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 663f1c4c-d7cd-42b2-a97f-2e13c20fcbae 02:52:29.920 --> 02:52:32.692 OCA and the CJC and we now alert this NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 05c6dfc6-0198-4f90-b95a-0b281c7c8355 02:52:32.692 --> 02:52:34.390 Commission about abusive practices NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 b23c122b-6eb4-4e1b-aa4d-f5b988e28641 02:52:34.390 --> 02:52:36.595 of judges like Douglas Hoffman, NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 388723e6-9ab7-4cfa-8e93-a066b84a5da6 02:52:36.600 --> 02:52:37.928 formerly the supervising judge NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 bc37aaff-96dd-47d7-b4f3-4a9425a6e094 02:52:37.928 --> 02:52:39.920 for the New York Family Court. NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 6d9227c2-8708-4dfd-bab7-ae9092ef6f96 02:52:39.920 --> 02:52:42.050 In addition to numerous reports NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 aad449d0-8f3a-4639-835b-352a25779c03 02:52:42.050 --> 02:52:45.040 of abuse and fraud upon the court, NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 d7282344-853c-44ad-b1c8-5cf2ae241a73 02:52:45.040 --> 02:52:46.984 Hoffman has been sued for sexual NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 00296331-2109-4bd4-b3d7-871947feaa1b 02:52:46.984 --> 02:52:49.240 harassment by his own court attorney, NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 fb1a854f-41e9-477e-bc89-11de58fc9c37 02:52:49.240 --> 02:52:50.120 Alexis Marcus. NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 4dfea67b-a6ee-4c8f-92b8-7dbd35668c8c 02:52:50.120 --> 02:52:54.290 In an era when we need to believe women, NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 f978bf90-2f7a-42d0-bf29-65bad9afef18 02:52:54.290 --> 02:52:55.946 you'd have thought that Hoffman would NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 cc3e3b31-d18d-42dd-b828-23a4cacd36a9 02:52:55.946 --> 02:52:58.146 have been at least suspended until the NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 a09aa21f-0a22-4993-8c53-d772fec9c753 02:52:58.146 --> 02:53:00.054 outcome of any investigation, right? NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 44de34d3-9143-495b-a3e8-40b35c769d59 02:53:00.054 --> 02:53:01.626 Not at all. NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 6df939c7-a187-4cf9-bbde-6bf7beb0b58c 02:53:01.626 --> 02:53:04.246 Hoffman has continued to sit NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 46d7adbf-e335-4ed0-af6f-1aee6744fd61 02:53:04.246 --> 02:53:06.903 pretty on the bench at $250,000 NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 1187fab8-54a8-4525-8bdb-0b16bb813bc1 02:53:06.903 --> 02:53:09.768 a year salary ever rising. NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 2d01cbea-3217-4f07-8a0b-cb6c180b33bc 02:53:09.770 --> 02:53:13.718 He's also used some $2.5 million of NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 016307e4-88e8-4a30-81df-fa829bcf2778 02:53:13.718 --> 02:53:16.258 taxpayer funds to defend himself NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 dea7ae29-4d64-4214-a0c0-14ceeaeae479 02:53:16.258 --> 02:53:18.290 from Miss Marcus's allegations. NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 c11f2638-4d84-4fa5-981d-4ff23ed9bd6d 02:53:18.290 --> 02:53:19.142 In the meantime, NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 43bce4ee-8f4f-41a8-8605-e0859f8789e6 02:53:19.142 --> 02:53:21.130 the havoc that he wreaks on families NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 f7f09c69-92db-4331-a5ea-b4c01a154022 02:53:21.186 --> 02:53:23.216 can be seen by all of you if you visit NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 82bb09a3-0dcf-4096-8451-f67d6af6421a 02:53:23.278 --> 02:53:25.364 his majestic courtroom at 60 Centre St. NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 baceab0e-d9a1-4072-bcd9-274ae99dc745 02:53:25.370 --> 02:53:26.930 He has ruled, NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 89970b35-a7be-4e8c-85e0-dcfd0207872b 02:53:26.930 --> 02:53:29.170 recently ruled several years ago now NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 62d18224-36c6-439c-9d49-b80574e1f981 02:53:29.170 --> 02:53:30.970 at the beginning of the pandemic, NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 b16ed242-a8d5-4165-8439-c06af43dcfef 02:53:30.970 --> 02:53:33.378 that a three-year old girl could not NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 e36270fa-b4f9-493a-837e-30ec293c5a45 02:53:33.378 --> 02:53:35.289 have meaningful access to her father. NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 da3e3b8f-dadd-4b95-9290-a95c8e010192 02:53:35.290 --> 02:53:36.108 His crime? NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 ba60e991-f964-4fc0-965d-d5f6e93da0ce 02:53:36.108 --> 02:53:38.153 He exercised his right not NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 87f9e52d-7db3-4647-a2d1-6b0a316e3c89 02:53:38.153 --> 02:53:40.569 to receive the COVID vaccine. NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 d0fe11d4-537f-46f2-995f-a810174af298 02:53:40.570 --> 02:53:42.682 Now, even 18 months off to the end NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 135a559b-5cb1-4e90-8c12-01e5e1facefe 02:53:42.682 --> 02:53:43.850 of this pandemic, NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 6f56d35d-f504-4afa-8b88-a97a2bd0170c 02:53:43.850 --> 02:53:46.130 this girl still has no unfettered NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 1d606db1-7c65-4826-b000-e8be756363ce 02:53:46.130 --> 02:53:47.650 time with her dad. NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 dac41056-b6c8-4c65-8402-4a57d8c19595 02:53:47.650 --> 02:53:49.827 And a trial on this matter started NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 23ee3b85-a43b-4957-9101-149de5a0d2ec 02:53:49.827 --> 02:53:50.449 up finally, NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 3a76913c-32d5-4bc9-9e2a-b341fb91ed94 02:53:50.450 --> 02:53:51.449 after three years, NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 9b4dd99e-a9e6-4658-a7de-18a150e42a3c 02:53:51.449 --> 02:53:52.448 a month ago. NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 7daf2bf4-8b67-4397-9d99-7c292d6acc65 02:53:52.450 --> 02:53:56.162 But it's just been postponed to March 2024. NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 1fc34fbe-31cb-4216-bb94-280422369843 02:53:56.162 --> 02:53:58.522 Six months away and justice NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 db585357-3d14-4061-bcd6-d6418bd0e815 02:53:58.522 --> 02:54:01.370 delayed is justice denied and the NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 b2fa78c6-9a6e-46a3-90c3-8c6373c7beee 02:54:01.370 --> 02:54:03.570 judiciary should not be rewarded NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 ae606876-b805-4eac-8080-3374302654ef 02:54:03.570 --> 02:54:06.010 for such gross inefficiency. NOTE Confidence: 0.940049750526316 a30649db-33a3-41ea-b3f3-3a71813959b7 02:54:06.010 --> 02:54:08.160 I'm going to ask you to wrap it up if NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 ae2a8ec5-cc18-4fba-ba2d-5b6361a83c19 02:54:08.227 --> 02:54:10.158 you would. I haven't had 10. NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 a4695e37-92c3-4684-ab24-029ed112fde3 02:54:10.158 --> 02:54:11.798 How much have I have? NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 786951d3-f1b0-4a67-8cd3-f16aaa3d8573 02:54:11.798 --> 02:54:13.368 You have in 3 minutes. NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 dedf9d71-a8b4-4a83-9d8b-0fc4771eb8d2 02:54:13.370 --> 02:54:14.036 Three more minutes. NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 e8d19180-9abb-4b84-a762-7a437f9142c2 02:54:14.036 --> 02:54:14.924 Is that all right? NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 96168a0a-21e2-4761-acf4-ff886fe5e4e0 02:54:14.930 --> 02:54:16.172 Enough time. NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 2e73bdf2-54ce-4f76-8343-2ec6eddd9e66 02:54:16.172 --> 02:54:18.656 As with many judges, NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 cd054080-d3db-4039-8e72-6c8feb8bc54a 02:54:18.660 --> 02:54:20.128 Hoffman Shields himself from NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 9d06c437-21e0-47a2-a49a-c118ba734a08 02:54:20.128 --> 02:54:21.596 oversight by closing his NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 b298b99e-5ac2-443f-8724-7deea3bbb1cb 02:54:21.596 --> 02:54:23.739 courtroom from the public and the press. NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 0225da68-24ec-4f79-9acd-0e584d979d46 02:54:23.740 --> 02:54:26.085 Just last week he ordered 5 separate NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 c6a010f4-cd56-4d76-82c3-5c7ef32ee393 02:54:26.085 --> 02:54:28.370 court officers to bar entry of the NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 2701a919-a67a-4dc4-bfe6-d285579a96ce 02:54:28.370 --> 02:54:30.194 public to a trial simply because NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 93355749-7dd0-4390-b1aa-6176418d08eb 02:54:30.257 --> 02:54:32.488 he knew the FCLU is making a NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 6c9e09af-dd82-4286-b68b-804ed0057ab3 02:54:32.488 --> 02:54:35.100 documentary called Unfit to Sit About It. NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 fdb3adca-0c73-423b-9ab4-7f0dae32f440 02:54:35.100 --> 02:54:39.048 Why would you continue to bankroll the black NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 025edc18-72e6-4cf4-82d4-4b30eb387dbb 02:54:39.048 --> 02:54:43.979 this this judge with two $250,000 a year? NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 610b4dfb-31b8-4d9a-b6a2-5cd131165fc0 02:54:43.980 --> 02:54:46.815 Now we recommend that ask you to NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 49b4a5e1-d736-495d-a71d-b29b11e58600 02:54:46.815 --> 02:54:49.209 recommend reforms also in the way NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 f0c73560-e71c-43d4-aa1d-dfaa70f13836 02:54:49.209 --> 02:54:51.417 judges are appointed to the bench. NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 24071015-59dc-40b4-bc24-c81e89f1abc8 02:54:51.420 --> 02:54:52.860 As a man who grew up in the UK, NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 aea54b4e-ec86-45f3-8680-6bd375ea522f 02:54:52.860 --> 02:54:54.108 although a proud U.S. NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 b6276aab-d400-42db-acf9-4b7de82ca931 02:54:54.108 --> 02:54:54.420 citizen, NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 d317e301-5e96-4349-abb2-7f64afe2d44d 02:54:54.420 --> 02:54:56.443 I've always found it crazy that judges NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 5aec290a-c378-44f0-a28a-17e5e890a9b5 02:54:56.443 --> 02:54:58.578 should be either Republican or Democrat. NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 41b1e96b-e598-4f15-ab0a-9f1ab76b6645 02:54:58.580 --> 02:55:00.132 Britain doesn't have Labour NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 53fd9369-2f98-4caf-91ea-d4e4e1fbaeba 02:55:00.132 --> 02:55:01.296 or Conservative judges. NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 5117c91c-de0b-4556-88c3-7da095d67584 02:55:01.300 --> 02:55:03.255 The consequences of this politicization NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 2d4135c4-122a-44c1-a98e-10518abf07c7 02:55:03.255 --> 02:55:05.632 of the judiciary is that defendants NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 141cf520-017a-4e56-a11d-85627fc34069 02:55:05.632 --> 02:55:07.756 like Donald Trump can easily claim NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 bda42fc1-1625-4740-9bc3-0e82a6c68b5c 02:55:07.756 --> 02:55:10.520 bias when up against the judge who NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 78f7ea50-6147-42a5-9227-72cc190429a1 02:55:10.520 --> 02:55:12.560 stated party affiliation is different, NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 235b3d6d-86d8-42f2-9f4a-d39d411b3914 02:55:12.560 --> 02:55:14.284 and this dangerously undermines NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 7c4a447a-933d-4fef-95d2-1489615f80b4 02:55:14.284 --> 02:55:17.440 confidence in the rule of law itself. NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 459eeac9-5f40-4699-9007-368fdcc34d3e 02:55:17.440 --> 02:55:18.487 In New York, NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 42c1f29c-8c13-48d7-96bb-44fa58fddc8f 02:55:18.487 --> 02:55:20.232 elections have been funded by NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 153650fc-4da9-41a3-a4cb-0d8a2f68f01a 02:55:20.232 --> 02:55:22.269 the various are funded by the NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 ab897c13-9bd2-40f6-b26a-f7523fd1ec68 02:55:22.269 --> 02:55:24.171 very attorneys who then plan to NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 118231bd-b8b5-47d1-9edc-ad30ca94632a 02:55:24.239 --> 02:55:26.731 appear in front of the judge with NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 74f483ae-f481-4118-83a6-f88d82360d89 02:55:26.731 --> 02:55:28.600 no public information on what NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 457af560-f62e-4989-a91d-5d9d2128fb36 02:55:28.600 --> 02:55:30.200 judges actually stand for. NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 e78f1580-68bd-4c76-884d-08c41be5c4f1 02:55:30.200 --> 02:55:32.923 We also urge that this body please NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 f968cd31-343f-4b1d-8b86-7c11e74fecb6 02:55:32.923 --> 02:55:34.610 recommend legislation that brings NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 02ac7ffb-2c03-489c-a367-53190b3ab7f0 02:55:34.610 --> 02:55:36.398 cameras into our courtrooms. NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 17ba20a3-5908-46fd-8e32-392e30d03e85 02:55:36.400 --> 02:55:38.672 This is not so much a First Amendment NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 a385779f-6fc7-4adc-8961-30b34f91f8c4 02:55:38.672 --> 02:55:40.928 question as a Second Amendment question. NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 13a5f1cc-1166-41ee-9575-cf47f1112216 02:55:40.930 --> 02:55:44.250 For our Constitution allows us to bear arms, NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 15b84152-5a1b-4973-9127-b7f581ff940d 02:55:44.250 --> 02:55:46.090 to stand up to tyranny. NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 7b88c903-eae3-4077-babd-0f1956fb4430 02:55:46.090 --> 02:55:46.400 Well, NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 6d15c2fc-b914-4231-841f-33a2317d1fc2 02:55:46.400 --> 02:55:48.570 in today's world is the tragic case NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 f3b6c84c-e353-4db6-abe8-9ce13a4492be 02:55:48.570 --> 02:55:50.450 of George Floyd shows the most NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 fbb0b4d0-9eea-4385-b8a7-e145be681e71 02:55:50.450 --> 02:55:52.730 powerful weapon we have is a camera, NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 191a225c-35ed-48c8-9b51-8f84ca00375b 02:55:52.730 --> 02:55:54.188 and that is why cameras should NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 5cbcacd1-e8de-4f57-8dd1-d251c339e1ac 02:55:54.188 --> 02:55:55.770 be allowed in our courtrooms. NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 8f623bcf-0bb0-43dd-b7bd-2dda1e917a1e 02:55:55.770 --> 02:55:58.066 Just as the public has accepted that the NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 cec87dc8-53b1-4f75-8361-e02a6f3d8d77 02:55:58.066 --> 02:55:59.970 police need cameras to keep them honest, NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 8408a50d-7f7a-426e-999a-df8ae815b34d 02:55:59.970 --> 02:56:02.578 so you can recommend that judges can no NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 30e33c8b-3f8d-4981-adaf-4f0682e5af29 02:56:02.578 --> 02:56:05.565 longer be allowed to operate in the shadows. NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 b35e900d-1901-4da1-90c1-74bd914cbfd1 02:56:05.570 --> 02:56:08.135 The salaries being requested are NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 cba5937a-5c40-40a8-bf33-d047837b1fcb 02:56:08.135 --> 02:56:10.187 obscenely high beyond adequate. NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 c5b16e53-e22b-49ed-b7d0-3eb9fb49770c 02:56:10.190 --> 02:56:13.934 The average over $250,000 a year, NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 5ced95cb-1bd8-4af2-8efb-d4db22b2d3ca 02:56:13.934 --> 02:56:15.566 including the benefits that NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 976b5fe3-0c64-4862-a964-31e4572cb4de 02:56:15.566 --> 02:56:18.070 exceeds even the governor's salary. NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 4773610c-e987-46e5-be7a-1adb23800a1c 02:56:18.070 --> 02:56:19.335 Nothing said in the three NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 f3db41b3-d03e-4d4d-8b2f-f58db61a0805 02:56:19.335 --> 02:56:20.347 hours of testing me. NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 ae95fdf4-7c1b-4c3f-890b-7793c6ffd9d8 02:56:20.350 --> 02:56:22.012 I've just listened to give any NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 dcd607af-5f4f-4598-af9f-c861f488e44d 02:56:22.012 --> 02:56:23.790 reason why they deserve another pay, NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 f36a427b-0388-4932-bfdd-7df3dbe50aea 02:56:23.790 --> 02:56:25.206 pay, pay, hike. NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 e31adf4d-0f3d-4bab-bc85-ee23ad372a20 02:56:25.206 --> 02:56:26.150 So please, NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 0dd75aa6-efca-46bd-8cf1-6173f42c00cd 02:56:26.150 --> 02:56:27.998 the OCA's application for NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 4fa6ea3c-e1cb-4ed9-b372-e21b9a726cc0 02:56:27.998 --> 02:56:30.308 renewed funding should be denied. NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 555bb826-87ec-4d53-a1f8-749fd2eaa927 02:56:30.310 --> 02:56:32.360 Insist on independent oversight cameras NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 3c1908b9-d6e9-4d59-8c66-7d6be32d9775 02:56:32.360 --> 02:56:35.670 in courts and a reform of the procedures. NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 021a9c1c-f7a2-4344-a6eb-ece84c859a93 02:56:35.670 --> 02:56:37.096 Appointing judges. NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 46b45f14-3bd0-4f1a-a7e2-9d339261815a 02:56:37.096 --> 02:56:39.948 Thank you. Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 f2c2feb8-9466-47f2-be81-9d9e6c970b49 02:56:39.950 --> 02:56:41.870 That concludes our hearing for today. NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 cfd1971f-b4c2-4294-8451-3cea1f239f23 02:56:41.870 --> 02:56:44.642 The Commission will next convene on NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 a86131f5-e536-4b15-83e5-5b878228a37e 02:56:44.642 --> 02:56:47.246 October 31st at the New York State NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 d17f9e5a-8bd1-484b-8dd2-e7b15ed6d28a 02:56:47.246 --> 02:56:49.491 Bar Association offices in Albany and NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 4f67c80d-b648-4515-ad68-d6f79db18734 02:56:49.491 --> 02:56:52.102 the information will be on the website. NOTE Confidence: 0.93913287 98a765d2-c864-40a7-a612-571ead45f27a 02:56:52.110 --> 02:56:54.000 Thank you.